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What team do you consider the biggest sleeper in the NFC?

  • 49ers

    Votes: 5 22.7%
  • Bucs

    Votes: 1 4.5%
  • Cardinals

    Votes: 3 13.6%
  • Lions

    Votes: 6 27.3%
  • Packers

    Votes: 2 9.1%
  • Panthers

    Votes: 1 4.5%
  • Rams

    Votes: 4 18.2%

  • Total voters
    22
  • Poll closed .
I think College Football is the best form of American Football. There is more pure play, especially between 2 equally matched teams. The presence of the Option play makes for a more interesting game.

Pro Football has several large problems that are affecting play quality. My basic issue with Pro Football is that the running game is being "over-defensed" and the passing game is being under-defensed.

I don't like the trend of teams signing "specialists" on Defense. You have Run Stuffers who are fat, obese DL'ers who do nothing but clog the middle. You have speedy, short CBs that do nothing but run around and play Zone on obvious passing downs. The NFL Rules also penalyze the defense too much.

I agree about the rules switching too much to favor the offense over time. I would like to see it go back to how it was in the 60's.

The only reason the QBs run it more in college is because the school has no lasting interest in their health and it's simpler than learning to throw it extremely well. Most of them only play a year or two and their not going to make it in the pros anyhow. A QB that relies on their running game usually doesn’t do well in the pros, usually because the pros are a lot faster, and it's easier to contain one person. Example: Michael Vick. That is why I have my doubts with somebody like Tim Tebow ever doing well there. It just doesn't work, plus sooner or later it's going to get them killed.

Those fat defensive linemen are a lot faster than most people realize. (Ok, so some of them are really out of shape) They only look slow when they are compared to other people on the team that run at speed just under what Olympic sprinters do.

Nothing is usually ever under or over defensed in the NFL for long. Teams are always changing it up to allow them the best chances to win. Sometimes that's in the middle of the same game. It isn't like soccer, baseball, or basketball where teams have been using the same couple of strategies for the last 50, 75, or 100+ years. Defenses focus more on passing than ever before. Playing defense in the NFL is probably twice as complicated as it was 15 years ago because of all the shifting and coverage disguises they use in protecting against the pass. Unlike years ago defenses are just as if not more complicated than the offenses now. If Peyton Manning and the Colts are playing them they are not focusing on the run first at all (which is also why they can usually run it so well because they only have 6 people near the line of scrimmage a lot of the time and the linebackers are thinking pass first at the snap.) Teams are just doing what they think will win. If anything it's the liberalization of passing rules over the years that have had the biggest impact but it is also the fact everybody finally caught on that it's easier to score a lot points by passing and some of the old mindset of just handing it off and running up the middle most of the time was hurting them outside of them having a big lead late in the game.
 
am i the only one who thinks this nfl in london is a bullshit bad idea and if i'm a dolphin or giant fan esp dolphin fan.. i'm pissed at giving up homegames.

Plus don't they have rugby. They know what the fuck football (american) is, they just don't want to embrace it. Just like you don't see a bunch of rugby leagues in the u.s.
 

ChefChiTown

The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
I agree to a certain extent. Playing games overseas isn't a great idea, but...in the long run, it does expose foreign countries to "our" sports. It's just like playing international soccer games in the US. Sure, they have nothing to do with "our country", but it helps the sport to grow in un-charted regions.
 
I agree to a certain extent. Playing games overseas isn't a great idea, but...in the long run, it does expose foreign countries to "our" sports. It's just like playing international soccer games in the US. Sure, they have nothing to do with "our country", but it helps the sport to grow in un-charted regions.

I don't know. It seems more like a gimmick than something that is going to draw interest. The game they want to do in China is even worse.



I don't think I would worry that much about the Giants looking a home game. They could just do it in a year where they play the Jets. They pretty much get an extra home game that year anyhow. :1orglaugh
 
There is ZERO AMERICAN FOOTBALL interest in Europe because the locals do not play the game on any level. If the locals don't play..they aren't going to care about it. This is nothing more then desperation by the NFL.

We atleast PLAY soccer as kids and maybe in high school. Soccer has a legit chance to be something in this country.
 
^yep. i don't see any rugby matches at the park :dunno:
i don't expect to make any rugby matches any time soon
 
^yep. i don't see any rugby matches at the park :dunno:
i don't expect to make any rugby matches any time soon

I see Rugby on Versus...they showed a couple matches from the Rugby World Cup recently. Some colleges field teams and you'll see them practice on campus sometimes.

Rugby is not a bad sport. We just have our version of Football. There isn't another popular sport similar to Soccer in the states. That's another reason why Soccer has a shot at becoming something more then a fringe sport.
 
i'm saying that Europe has rugby, and they seem just a passionate about it as nfl fans. The sports are too similar for the nfl to hold its own in europe
again

Just like i can't imagine Rugby ever holding a respectable audience in this country. It may be something new but it will dry out quickly.
 
the only reason i might watch any game today is fantasy football
 

ChefChiTown

The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
Why in the FUCK is Fox interupting my fucking Bears game to show me some fat bitch singing the National Anthem in Europe? Nobody gives a fuck about the NFL being overseas.

Fox is pissing me off lately.
 
Why in the FUCK is Fox interupting my fucking Bears game to show me some fat bitch singing the National Anthem in Europe? Nobody gives a fuck about the NFL being overseas.

Fox is pissing me off lately.

I think the only ones who think this is a good idea are the NFL higher ups. It's like Goodell feels he has to come up with some crazy new idea to justify the pay and new position he now holds instead of just doing his job.
 
Does the NFL have any meaningful rivalries today? There's an article on ESPN discussing the "great rivalries," but I just laughed. Dallas versus Washington Redskins? Huh? When has that game mattered in about 30 years? Dallas fans hate Philly and New York more. Dallas/Washington SHOULD be a great rivalry but it isn't.

Cleveland/Pittsburgh used to be a fierce rivalry. I like that one. Everyone claims The Raiders as their rival out West.

Teams like Seattle...New Orleans..Tennessee(Houston Oilers), Buffalo, Tampa...these teams have been around forever and never established any rivals.
 
There is ZERO AMERICAN FOOTBALL interest in Europe because the locals do not play the game on any level. If the locals don't play..they aren't going to care about it. This is nothing more then desperation by the NFL.

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In western Europe it is zero,but it's popular on East,South-east!We in Serbia have American football league,also there is SELAF(league of teams from Austria,Hungary,Serbia,Poland and from next year Greece,Turkey,Croatia,Czech R).In few years this is going to be very popular sport here!Don't know about others but thousands of people in Serbia can't wait for Sunday night to watch THE game!:thefinger

ps.FAVRE did it again
 
Does the NFL have any meaningful rivalries today?

Rivalries go in cycles. New ones spring up and old ones wane as teams get worse or players leave. New England vs. Indianapolis seems like it has been a pretty big rivalry for the past six or seven years.
 
Rivalries go in cycles. New ones spring up and old ones wane as teams get worse or players leave.
There is EXACTLY why College football is, ultimately, better (reading this Slik!).

The players leave after 4 years but the hatred for Notre Dame...USC...Florida State...Ohio State...Harvard..the hatred never dissipates. Each team has a unique rival too..Ohio State/Meat, Harvard/Yale, SC/UCLA, Florida State/Florida, Georgia/GTech..etc.
 
fuck some college football. every season you still don't know who the champion is. Teams go into the season knowing they don't have a chance to win the championship no matter what they do.

With that ridiculous flaw, it will always be a waste of time to put energy into. Who gives a fuck about the Chick-fil-A Bowl. That's the kind of awards that awaits 90+ percent of these teams.
 

ChefChiTown

The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
fuck some college football. every season you still don't know who the champion is. Teams go into the season knowing they don't have a chance to win the championship no matter what they do.

With that ridiculous flaw, it will always be a waste of time to put energy into. Who gives a fuck about the Chick-fil-A Bowl. That's the kind of awards that awaits 90+ percent of these teams.

HAAAAAAAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, oh man, that made me laugh.
 
There is EXACTLY why College football is, ultimately, better (reading this Slik!).

The players leave after 4 years but the hatred for Notre Dame...USC...Florida State...Ohio State...Harvard..the hatred never dissipates. Each team has a unique rival too..Ohio State/Meat, Harvard/Yale, SC/UCLA, Florida State/Florida, Georgia/GTech..etc.

So your saying that the emotional attachment some people have for a rivalry, whom like somebody else said most people that root for the school never even went there, makes the play better than the players actually being bigger, stronger, faster, and more skilled? I would even go so far as to state that a good number of the players on each side don’t really care as much about it as the fans even if they don’t admit it when giving sound bites to the media.
 
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