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All the charges against Trump were deliberately fabricated and elaborated in order to make him lose the presidential election


That makes no sense, Georges.
Those charges weren't even made public until after the election.
 

georges

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All the charges against Trump were deliberately fabricated and elaborated in order to make him lose the presidential election


That makes no sense, Georges.
Those charges weren't even made public until after the election.

Because the so called Russian Collusion and the Mueller probe do? Please give me a break:picardfacepalm::brick:
 
Because the so called Russian Collusion and the Mueller probe do?

The Mueller probe in regard to Russian meddling absolutely makes sense.

We don't know whether the collusion element of the investigation does or not yet. We WILL at some point. We had to wait what - three years? - before the shit hit the fan for Bill Clinton stemming from the Whitewater investigation.
As much as I dislike Trump I hope to hell he did not collude, and that the investigation ends up confirming that.
But already 3 Trump administration members have admitted to lying to the FBI about their interaction with Russian entities. Why do you think they lied, Georges? Do you not find that in the least bit suspicious?
 

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The Mueller probe in regard to Russian meddling absolutely makes sense.

We don't know whether the collusion element of the investigation does or not yet. We WILL at some point. We had to wait what - three years? - before the shit hit the fan for Bill Clinton stemming from the Whitewater investigation.
As much as I dislike Trump I hope to hell he did not collude, and that the investigation ends up confirming that.
But already 3 Trump administration members have admitted to lying to the FBI about their interaction with Russian entities. Why do you think they lied, Georges? Do you not find that in the least bit suspicious?

Don't be so naive and you know how much the FBI and DoJ dislike Trump. I am far more suspicious regarding Obama's adminsitration and for several valid reasons.
Obama lied too and he had already access to Hillary server
https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/f...aign=weeklyam&ff_content=conservative-tribune
And from the Steele dossier to Papadopoulos, Obama's state department had an early in the russian probe
http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/21/obamas-state-department-had-early-role-in-probe/
Not to mention that the FBI deliberately ignored "golden emails", crucial Abedin messages and more
http://www.dailycaller.com/2018/06/22/fbi-ignored-golden-emails-and-abedin-messages/
But also Obama former Cyber Chief: We were told to ‘stand down’ when Russia launched cyberattacks
https://www.westernjournal.com/obam...stand-down-when-russia-launched-cyberattacks/
And to conclude Susan Rice ordered to set up Trump, assured Russian meddlers were left alone
https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/g...p-made-sure-russian-meddlers-were-left-alone/

So, all this confirms what I said before Obama and all of his goddamn muppets fabricated all this shit and now it is payback time. Mueller approval's is at its lowest with a mere 32% of approval, so anyone who approves Mueller's job is naive and stupid. I hope that all of the democrats and all former Obama muppets linked and involved in this witchunt will be properly prosecuted and jailed.
 
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Don't be so naive and you know how much the FBI and DoJ dislike Trump.

No actually I don't. Mueller, Rosenstein, Comey ...are all Republicans. Comey re-opened the Clinton email investigation two weeks before the election which immediately negatively impacted her polling numbers.
I do know some FBI employees voted Clinton while others voted Trump. Being in the FBI or DOJ doesn't render somebody apolitical in their personal lives. It never has.

So then you're not the least bit curious why those people lied to the FBI? Do you have explanation for that?
 

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No actually I don't. Mueller, Rosenstein, Comey ...are all Republicans. Comey re-opened the Clinton email investigation two weeks before the election which immediately negatively impacted her polling numbers.
I do know some FBI employees voted Clinton while others voted Trump. Being in the FBI or DOJ doesn't render somebody apolitical in their personal lives. It never has.

So then you're not the least bit curious why those people lied to the FBI? Do you have explanation for that?

These people Mueller, Rosenstein, Comey ...are all Republicans but they wanted a president who was perhaps a more moderate republican and who perhaps wasn't going to drain the swamp nor be as strong on some issues like Trump is. Unfortunately Mueller has done a bad job and Comey was a pathological liar and a fraud. This constant obstructionism and this obsessive willigness at all costs to take a swing at Trump and even impeach him means that the deep state is involved in this shit so yes as Republicans, they should be prosecuted properly and mercilessly as well and jailed as well.
Also, it was confirmed that from the Steele dossier to Papadopoulos, that Obama’s State Dept was immersed in Trump-Russia probe from the get-go
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2018/0...sletter&utm_medium=BPR Email&utm_campaign=DMS
So in all logic and all fairness, Obama muppets have to be prosecuted and jailed too. People who work in law enforcement agencies and in the military at an overwhelming majority vote republican and not democrat, thank god.
 
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These people Mueller, Rosenstein, Comey ...are all Republicans but they wanted a president who was perhaps a more moderate republican

You know what...you're probably right that at the ballot box they preferred a different candidate...and quite likely all three voted for someone other than Trump in the primaries.
But to leap from that to suggesting they might risk destroying their own careers and doing potential jail time in order to derail Trump just doesn't pass the common sense test. Particularly in Mueller's case.

I'm still wondering what you think about those members of Trump's team who admitted they lied to the FBI. Why do you think they lied?
 
I'm still wondering what you think about those members of Trump's team who admitted they lied to the FBI. Why do you think they lied?

Georges, what's up? I've already asked you 3 times. I'd be interested to hear your theory on this. Why do you think they lied?
 

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Georges, what's up? I've already asked you 3 times. I'd be interested to hear your theory on this. Why do you think they lied?

That Swamp Kamp Kool Aid makes those poor guys filter out all things that are hurting their belief system
 
You know what...you're probably right that at the ballot box they preferred a different candidate...and quite likely all three voted for someone other than Trump in the primaries.
But to leap from that to suggesting they might risk destroying their own careers and doing potential jail time in order to derail Trump just doesn't pass the common sense test. Particularly in Mueller's case.

I'm still wondering what you think about those members of Trump's team who admitted they lied to the FBI. Why do you think they lied?

I can speak on this: For the very god damn reason that most attorneys try and avoid having their client sit for an FBI interview in the first place, if they mistakenly recall what they had for breakfast they have lied to investigators.

So far, all have been charged or are pleading to process crimes and the investigators are off of the Mueller team. These pleas will be vacated.
 
I can speak on this: For the very god damn reason that most attorneys try and avoid having their client sit for an FBI interview in the first place, if they mistakenly recall what they had for breakfast they have lied to investigators.

But they didn't just forget what they had for breakfast, did they?
Are you actually going to try to argue that in a month's time Mike Flynn was at risk of forgetting that he discussed two MAJOR issues with a Russian ambassador, both issues very near and dear to Trumpco's agenda? And furthermore issues in which he made specific requests to said ambassador about those issues? C'mon now.

Flynn lied. Stone lied. Papadapolous lied. And all about contacts with Russians.

So far, all have been charged or are pleading to process crimes

Well of course. Process crimes were the most they could be charged with at that point in time.

Maybe now Georges can answer from his perspective since the question was asked of him.
 
But they didn't just forget what they had for breakfast, did they?
Are you actually going to try to argue that in a month's time Mike Flynn was at risk of forgetting that he discussed two MAJOR issues with a Russian ambassador, both issues very near and dear to Trumpco's agenda? And furthermore issues in which he made specific requests to said ambassador about those issues? C'mon now.

Flynn lied. Stone lied. Papadapolous lied. And all about contacts with Russians.

So far, all have been charged or are pleading to process crimes

Well of course. Process crimes were the most they could be charged with at that point in time.

Maybe now Georges can answer from his perspective since the question was asked of him.

I remember vividly both Obama and Clinton after being elected president gleefully disclosing the world leaders they had spoken with the very next day. That means their staff were speaking to people and other governments during the transition. They also didn’t have their incoming administration’s phone calls eavesdropped on by the intelligence of the previous administration. That also means their campaign staff had contact with world leaders before being elected. Who set up the meeting and joint presser for Obama with Sarkozy? Who got the approval for his speech on foreign soil at the Bradenburg Gate?

Oh and Stone hasn’t been charged with anything regarding to lying to anyone as of yet, and Trump never even met Papadapolous unless it was very briefly.

Flynn’s plea deal is tainted because of the investigator in charge and will be dismissed.
 

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Georges, what's up? I've already asked you 3 times. I'd be interested to hear your theory on this. Why do you think they lied?

“The IG report, though critical of Comey, found no evidence of personal bias on his part or institutional bias in the FBI's decision on Clinton's emails”.
He [referring to IG Horwitz] very carefully says that he found no ‘documentary’ evidence that bias produced ‘specific investigatory decisions.’ That's different,” she said. “It means he didn't catch anyone doing anything so dumb as writing down that they took a specific step to aid a candidate. You know, like: ‘Let's give out this Combetta immunity deal so nothing comes out that will derail Hillary for President.”

Strassel elaborates further in her column about the report:
”There’s Loretta Lynch, who felt it perfectly fine to have a long catch-up with her friend Bill Clinton on a Phoenix tarmac and whom the inspector general slams for an “error in judgment.” Mr. Comey’s entire staff was complicit in concealing the contents of the July press conference from Justice officials. We discover that significant FBI “resources” were dedicated in October to spinning FBI “talking points” about the Clinton investigation—rather than actually investigating the new Anthony Weiner laptop emails the bureau discovered in September.

[…]

There’s former Assistant Attorney General Peter Kadzik, who was tipping off the Clinton campaign even as he took part in the investigation, and who “failed to strictly adhere to [his] recusal” when he finally stepped away. Former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe also did not “fully comply with his recusal,” and he’d already been found to have lied to the bureau about a leak to the media. Speaking of leaks, Mr. Horowitz needed full attachments and charts to list the entire “volume of communication” between FBI employees and the press.

[…]

…the bias is everywhere. It’s in the texts between Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, and those of three other employees who are routinely “hostile” to Candidate Trump…It’s in a message from an unnamed agent in November 2016 who writes that although the FBI found Clinton aide Huma Abedin had “lied,” it doesn’t matter since “no one at DOJ is going to prosecute.” To which a second agent replies. “Rog—noone is going to pros[ecute] even if we find unique classified.”

It’s in the Justice Department’s decision to cut deals with Mrs. Clinton and her staff and shelter them from a grand jury. And to agree to limitations in searching for and in devices. And in immunity agreements.


No bias? Please. There was bias, unless you’re with the liberal news media who thinks the only thing that was bad from this report is that Donald Trump is still the president of the United States.

Combetta refers to Mr. Paul Combetta, a computer specialist who deleted Hillary Clintons emails, which were under a congressional subpoena (via NYT):

A computer specialist who deleted Hillary Clinton’s emails despite orders from Congress to preserve them was given immunity by the Justice Department during its investigation into her personal email account, according to a law enforcement official and others briefed on the investigation.

[…]

Mr. Combetta is one of at least two people who were given immunity by the Justice Department as part of the investigation. The other was Bryan Pagliano, a former campaign staff member for Mrs. Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign, who was granted immunity in exchange for answering questions about how he set up a server in Mrs. Clinton’s home in Chappaqua, N.Y., around the time she became secretary of state in 2009.

[…]

According to the F.B.I. documents, Mr. Combetta told the bureau in February that he did not recall deleting the emails. But in May, he told a different story.

In the days after Mrs. Clinton’s staffers called Platte River Networks in March 2015, Mr. Combetta said realized that he had not followed a December 2014 order from Mrs. Clinton’s lawyers to have the emails deleted. Mr. Combetta then used a program called BleachBit to delete the messages, the bureau said.

In Mr. Combetta’s first interview with the F.B.I. in February, he said he did not recall seeing the preservation order from the Benghazi committee, which Mrs. Clinton’s lawyer, Cheryl D. Mills, had sent to Platte River. But in his May interview, he said that at the time he made the deletions “he was aware of the existence of the preservation request and the fact that it meant he should not disturb Clinton’s email data” on the Platte River server.

Strassel added that the IG report, in her view, shows a culture that feels the rules do not apply them, noting the failed recusals (cough…McCabe…cough), the Lynch/Bill meeting on the tarmac in Phoenix, and reporters giving free goodies to staffers. Talk about a situation that lends itself to having more leaks than the Iraqi Navy. But hey, the Clintons could empathize; they’ve felt the same way for years.

And let’s not forget the atrocious exchange between FBI employees, who had a total meltdown over Trump’s 2016 win.

“You promised me this wouldn’t happen. YOU PROMISED,” one said, identified as “FBI Employee.”

“Trump’s supporters are all poor to middle class, uneducated, lazy POS that think he will magically grant them jobs for doing nothing. They probably didn’t watch the debates, aren’t fully educated on his policies, and are stupidly wrapped up in his unmerited enthusiasm,” said a lawyer with the bureau.

With these examples, it’s hard to fully accept there was no bias as a legitimate point to sell to the American people. Actually, the people did watchthe debates, and the way you know these jokers at the FBI didn’t is because they should have known that Clinton-leaning voters were more receptive to Trump’s language on the economy in the third debate.

Still, this did not impact the execution of the probe itself into the emails. I’m not so sure that’s going to sit well. Yet, we can probably put the obstruction of justice charge to bed for good, not that it was a serious charge to begin with, as the president has the right to fire the FBI director whenever he wants. But this IG report shows President Trump had cause. “

from https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattv...n-doj-ig-report-is-not-what-it-seems-n2490944 and

New FBI Agent Implicated: sent Obscene Trump Message, filtered 'vidence in Hillary Probe
https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/n...&ff_campaign=manualpost&ff_content=2018-06-25
 
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Trump predicts electoral doom for Democrats with ‘abolish ICE’ push: ‘They’re going to get beaten so badly’
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ice-push-re-going-to-get-beaten-so-badly.html

Trump calls US immigration laws 'the dumbest anywhere in the world'
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...migration-laws-dumbest-anywhere-in-world.html

Trump’s White House payroll cuts could save $22 million for Americans
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2018/0...ts-could-save-22-million-for-americans-650003

Trump’s Numbers Rise with Both GOP & Dems as Media Immigration Attacks Backfire
https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/t...&ff_campaign=manualpost&ff_content=2018-06-30
 
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