Is Obama really (born) American or Not?

[BioDefenseGrad]

:eeew:



Are you Indian, BDG? :dunno: You come across as white to me.
Were you born in America or did you move there at some point?

Imagine if you were born in America and somehow became POTUS you'd most likely be going through the same BS (born) Obama treatment and we all know the real reason why. :2 cents:

Ignore that please.


I'm basing my argument over who brings up the Birthers all the time.

Like liberal websites such as Huffingtonpost, the very website just provided.

Or the Governor of Hawaii, who randomly decided he'd challenge the birthers again.

Or the folks on MSNBC.


Or that very same DEMOCRAT pollster who had to admit his questions were problematic.



The Republican leaders came out and said they believe he's a citizen. The Republicans themselves said that the Dems get more out of keeping this b.s. alive. They said it HURTS Republicans chances of getting elected in 2012 because it angers independents and gets liberals into a frenzy.


Who keeps bringing this garbage up? DEMOCRATS. Birthers weren't even welcome at rallies during the height of the Tea Party movement in 2010. Orly Taitz, the "Queen of the Birhers" got tossed off the speaker list at a Tea Party rally in April 2010.


Does this sound like an element that has the support of the majority of Republicans or does it sound like an extreme fringe movement when even Tea Party organizers don't want to be associated with you?


That's it.

 

[georges]

I am one of the doubters about Obama being a born and bred American. But you believe in what you believe. None is going to change my mind nor yours. Sooner or later, it will investigated and discovered if Obama's so called certificate of birth was a forgery or not.

 

[Hot Mega]

Ignore that please.


I'm basing my argument over who brings up the Birthers all the time.

Like liberal websites such as Huffingtonpost, the very website just provided.

Or the Governor of Hawaii, who randomly decided he'd challenge the birthers again.

Or the folks on MSNBC.


Or that very same DEMOCRAT pollster who had to admit his questions were problematic.



The Republican leaders came out and said they believe he's a citizen. The Republicans themselves said that the Dems get more out of keeping this b.s. alive. They said it HURTS Republicans chances of getting elected in 2012 because it angers independents and gets liberals into a frenzy.


Who keeps bringing this garbage up? DEMOCRATS. Birthers weren't even welcome at rallies during the height of the Tea Party movement in 2010. Orly Taitz, the "Queen of the Birhers" got tossed off the speaker list at a Tea Party rally in April 2010.


Does this sound like an element that has the support of the majority of Republicans or does it sound like an extreme fringe movement when even Tea Party organizers don't want to be associated with you?


That's it.

I am one of the doubters about Obama being a born and bred American. But you believe in what you believe. None is going to change my mind nor yours. Sooner or later, it will investigated and discovered if Obama's so called certificate of birth was a forgery or not.

"Or" that website Georges.:1orglaugh

(Yeah, Trini Girl is really part of some elaborate scheme to influence the next elections by bringing this up.)

 

[qiinson]

Ignore that please.

Ignore what?

Are you Indian, BDG? :dunno: You come across as white to me.
Were you born in America or did you move there at some point?

Imagine if you were born in America and somehow became POTUS you'd most likely be going through the same BS (born) Obama treatment and we all know the real reason why. :2 cents:

It won't take more than a few minutes to answer.

I am one of the doubters about Obama being a born and bred American. But you believe in what you believe. None is going to change my mind nor yours. Sooner or later, it will investigated and discovered if Obama's so called certificate of birth was a forgery or not.

POTW This is why I love :georges: :rofl2:

I believe georges was born and bred in China. But you believe in what you believe. None is going to change my mind nor yours. Sooner or later, it will investigated and discovered if georges' so called certificate of birth was a forgery or not.

P.S. I have no credible evidence to even suggest georges was born in China. :o

 

[xfire]

I am one of the doubters about Obama being a born and bred American. But you believe in what you believe. None is going to change my mind nor yours. Sooner or later, it will investigated and discovered if Obama's so called certificate of birth was a forgery or not.

Facts are unaffected by opinions. Is it your opinion that 2+2 = 4?

 

[Peter Gazinya]

No matter where he was born he's a narcissistic communist. And that's not very American.

 

[xfire]

Calling Obama a "narcissistic communist" is about on par with calling him a cootie infested booger eater. It says more about the name caller than it does about the one being called the names.

 

[lurkingdirk]

No matter where he was born he's a narcissistic communist. And that's not very American.

I'm sorry, but you simply can not be serious, can you? He is not even a Socialist by ANY definition, but you think you can elevate that to Communist?

Please explain exactly how he is a Communist.

 

[BioDefenseGrad]

Ignore what?



It won't take more than a few minutes to answer.


POTW This is why I love :georges: :rofl2:

I believe georges was born and bred in China. But you believe in what you believe. None is going to change my mind nor yours. Sooner or later, it will investigated and discovered if georges' so called certificate of birth was a forgery or not.

P.S. I have no credible evidence to even suggest georges was born in China. :o

People accuse me of being Indian because I happen to know a little more about India than your average American.

I get accused of being an Israeli or an Iranian who hates Arab Muslims too.
:dunno:

I'm a white person with roots in Europe. That's it.

 

[BioDefenseGrad]

"Or" that website Georges.:1orglaugh

(Yeah, Trini Girl is really part of some elaborate scheme to influence the next elections by bringing this up.)

I didn't say that or imply that. Unless you consider Trini girl to be a journalist, democratic pollster or a democratic party volunteer.

 

[qiinson]

People accuse me of being Indian because I happen to know a little more about India than your average American.

I get accused of being an Israeli or an Iranian who hates Arab Muslims too.
:dunno:

I'm a white person with roots in Europe. That's it.

That's all I wanted to know. :hatsoff:
Now you can return to what you do best here.

 

[AddisonORiley]

who cares i just dropped them all off at the oval office hahahhahaha

 

[Hot Mega]

I didn't say that or imply that. Unless you consider Trini girl to be a journalist, democratic pollster or a democratic party volunteer.

Let's assume Trini is a Demo who brought this up... 'BioDefenseGrad' didn't say this vvv?? (I know, I know...'see what had happened was...''):1orglaugh

Who keeps bringing this garbage up? DEMOCRATS.

 

[como7170]

According to US law, a passport carries the same legal weight as a birth certificate to prove US citizenship. If you want proof of that, when you fill out an I-9 form when you start a new job you have to provide either a birth certificate or a valid US passport (or a combination of a SS card and driver's license if we want to be technical). Obama clearly has had a US passport for decades.

 

[Hot Mega]

According to US law, a passport carries the same legal weight as a birth certificate to prove US citizenship. If you want proof of that, when you fill out an I-9 form when you start a new job you have to provide either a birth certificate or a valid US passport (or a combination of a SS card and driver's license if we want to be technical). Obama clearly has had a US passport for decades.

Okay. Just don't tell Georges.:o

 

[24788]

I could really care less if he was born in America or not. I think we should open our doors and let people from other countries run for Presidency. I mean come on could they really do worst than Bush?

 

[BioDefenseGrad]

Let's assume Trini is a Demo who brought this up... 'BioDefenseGrad' didn't say this vvv?? (I know, I know...'see what had happened was...''):1orglaugh

Assuming makes an ass out of you.

 

[Hot Mega]

Assuming makes an ass out of you.

Then let's presume. Go...:tongue:

 

[Ulysses31]

I could really care less if he was born in America or not. I think we should open our doors and let people from other countries run for Presidency. I mean come on could they really do worst than Bush?

Problem is you let very stupid people become President, Bush was clearly stupid and showed clearly he didn't have a clue about foreign affairs even before he got voted in, sadly I think Americans vote on charisma, style over substance. We might have had unpopular prime ministers here in the UK but they are normally highly educated even if not the most likeable. In the US the candidates that seem the most popular are the ones that thank God the most, European politicians very rarely attribute anything to religion, the public would never accept it. Didn't Bush imply that God told him to invade Afghanistan/Iraq or did I just imagine it as I hate Bush so much :dunno:

 

[BioDefenseGrad]

I could really care less if he was born in America or not. I think we should open our doors and let people from other countries run for Presidency. I mean come on could they really do worst than Bush?

I think part of it is to guard against a "sparrow" type situation or a Manchurian candidate, all far fetched. The other part is the idea that a person with serious foreign connections could potentially hesitate or show favoritism in a time of crisis.

Vetting is never 100% but this policy gives America just a tiny bit more breathing room.