Is Obama really (born) American or Not?

Big debate with my friend's conservative parents last night. I say yes, still doubters, if so why? They were 99.9% sure he ain't.
:dunno:

No matter where he was born, I will work tirelessly to see that this tax and spend liberal of an extreme nature, will not be elected again. I view him as weak and quite unprepared to meet this world"s challenges despite his fancy teleprompters and nice smile.
The middle east did not explode into violence under Bush. Our debt did not quadruple in 2 years, and welfare did not explode under former leadership.
I will support any Democrat or Republican who runs against Obama. The worst ever!
 
Thing is, going by the birthers "logic", McCain would have been ineligible to be President as well, since he was born in Panama, the country, which has never been an American state or territory. Interesting and hypocritical how they have ignored that all this time.

Fuckers.

FUCKERS!!!
 
You need to stick to one comment at a time because your interpretation of posts are so different from the originator it's ridiculous.

I suppose it would seem ridiculous to someone like this. <----Where pray-tell in the Sam hell did Stanscratch mention Tea Party, their gatherings or who is welcomed there???

Pot meet mirror:eek::eek::1orglaugh:1orglaugh
You think that Birther Lt. Col. somehow negates or disproves what I was saying about the relative lack of Birthers?
I didn't set out to disprove your claim as you offered no proof or evidence to refute. You claimed they are little more than a collection of websites. w ell,ev enbr other fallhellk nows 'websits' dontst artt hemselvs:o Speaking of easy, had I sought to disprove your assertion that apparently would have been pretty easy to do as well.:tongue:

I don't claim to personally know (not sure how you could) how widespread they are but it's pretty telling IMO if a Lt. C:clown:l. (most certainly a conservative G:clown:per) and a former G:clown:per Senatorial/Presidential candidate are.
At least from your other questions I can now tell that it's not just me you do this with. I wish you wouldn't even reply to my posts anymore. These exchanges have long gone past the point where they're constructive or amusing.

Sorry bro, I ignore posts not posters. You actually think I'd pass up the chance to challenge, mock and blow holes through your constant whining and malarkey? Not even a slim chance.:2 cents: Of course you'll now do what you always do when busted dead to rights...retreat to some statement not even remotely relevant to what I posted (maybe not even the subject) and threaten to put people on your ignore list (as you notoriously do).:1orglaugh:rofl::rofl2:
 
The Birther movement is mostly a collection of websites. The actual birthers are few and far between and they are not even welcome at Tea Party gatherings.


Mostly it's Democrats who bring this up to score points by trying to say it's mainstream belief among Republicans. It's just a false-flag operation.

You could not possibly be more wrong. Like to many conservatives, you base your opinions on what you want to believe without a shred of evidence, and in fact ignore contrary evidence. In fact it sas become popular to simply make up “facts”.

Over half the Republican primary voters are birthers.


"Birthers make a majority among those voters who say they're likely to participate in a Republican primary next year. 51% say they don't think Barack Obama was born in the United States to just 28% who firmly believe that he was and 21% who are unsure. The GOP birther majority is a new development. The last time PPP tested this question nationally, in August of 2009, only 44% of Republicans said they thought Obama was born outside the country while 36% said that he definitely was born in the United States. If anything birtherism is on the rise."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/15/birther-poll_n_823666.html

http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2011/02/romney-and-birthers.html
 
You could not possibly be more wrong. Like to many conservatives, you base your opinions on what you want to believe without a shred of evidence, and in fact ignore contrary evidence. In fact it sas become popular to simply make up “facts”.

Over half the Republican primary voters are birthers.


"Birthers make a majority among those voters who say they're likely to participate in a Republican primary next year. 51% say they don't think Barack Obama was born in the United States to just 28% who firmly believe that he was and 21% who are unsure. The GOP birther majority is a new development. The last time PPP tested this question nationally, in August of 2009, only 44% of Republicans said they thought Obama was born outside the country while 36% said that he definitely was born in the United States. If anything birtherism is on the rise."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/15/birther-poll_n_823666.html

http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2011/02/romney-and-birthers.html

"But the Emperor has no clothes!" (“But he has nothing on at all,”)

Shhhhhhh!!!
 
The middle east did not explode into violence under Bush
Nester6

Explosion So? Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, Jordan, Bahrain etc. How many dead? Who did Obama send to fight there? He can control other countries people?

Iraq. How many dead? Who did Bush send to fight there?

Worst ever? Nixon, and Andrew Johnson can surely RIP.
 
Nester6

Explosion So? Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, Jordan, Bahrain etc. How many dead? Who did Obama send to fight there? He can control other countries people?

Iraq. How many dead? Who did Bush send to fight there?

Worst ever? Nixon, and Andrew Johnson can surely RIP.

Worse still in the observation is the fact that this is the reality hoped for by the Bush policy in Iraq.

"A new regime in Iraq would serve as an inspiring example of freedom for other nations in the region," he said on February 26.

Although I think the policy was a failure as I don't believe many people are wishing for what Iraq has had in recent years.
 
Love it this thread still has wings! and this Bullshit.

Over half the Republican primary voters are birthers.


"Birthers make a majority among those voters who say they're likely to participate in a Republican primary next year. 51% say they don't think Barack Obama was born in the United States

Once again you do not need to be born in the USA to be an American or become Pres.. It is the law of the land. So Republicans are saying they are just as stupid as Dems, and they have the balls to vote.:facepalm:

Good Gawd. Back to Lisa Ann.
 
here's my answer, who the fuck cares!
 
The Birther movement is mostly a collection of websites. The actual birthers are few and far between and they are not even welcome at Tea Party gatherings.


Mostly it's Democrats who bring this up to score points by trying to say it's mainstream belief among Republicans. It's just a false-flag operation.

:eeew:

BioDefensegrad is one of those Indians who actually considers himself a White person.

Are you Indian, BDG? :dunno: You come across as white to me. :confused:
Were you born in America or did you move there at some point?

Imagine if you were born in America and somehow became POTUS :facepalm: you'd most likely be going through the same BS (born) Obama treatment and we all know the real reason why. :2 cents:
 
Love it this thread still has wings! and this Bullshit.



Once again you do not need to be born in the USA to be an American. It is the law of the land. So Republicans are saying they are just as stupid as Dems, and they have the balls to vote.:facepalm:

Good Gawd.

Dude...c'mon. I wouldn't get as worked up with that as I would concerning the possibility that some percentage of these people may think this because they believe Hawaii is a foreign country.
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
As long as teabagger birthers maintain the ridiculous position that Obama wasn't born in America they can't expect anyone with an ounce of intelligence to take them seriously.

Stupid people, much like crazy people, often have trouble facing up to the facts. And since anyone who spends even a nanosecond thinking about this is seen as a confirmed member of the lunatic fringe, I think that's one reason Obama continues to let them drown in their own foolishness.

It wouldn't surprise me to learn that one of Sarah P@lin's biggest donors is Obama himself. His wettest dream is probably to have Sarah Pee at the top of the GOP ticket in 2012, with Michele Bachmann as her Veep. Dumb and Dumber, backed by the teabaggers, birthers, deathers and an assortment of neo-confederate :tinhat:.
 
I think they are just wishing there was some way to invalidate all he's done. Barack Obama did something no one thought in the history of the world could be done - make George W. Bush look like a good president.
 

Facetious

Moderated
I wonder how batshit crazy the democrats would act if, say . . .a Marco Rubio tried to enter his candidacy for potus without all of the :uhem: required documentation . .
. . ya think? :1orglaugh

....CRICKETS.... :facepalm:

ANY rebuttals?! :dunno:

The truth to the matter is . . . It doesn't matter whether obama is or isn't a naturalized
citizen of the United States of America,
as the progressives would just as soon dissolve this country and everything it stands for . . I get it! :horse:
 
....CRICKETS.... :facepalm:

ANY rebuttals?! :dunno:

The truth to the matter is . . . It doesn't matter whether obama is or isn't a naturalized
citizen of the United States of America,
as the progressives would just as soon dissolve this country and everything it stands for . . I get it! :horse:

I wonder how batshit crazy the democrats would act if, say . . .a Marco Rubio
tried to enter his candidacy for potus without all of the :uhem: required documentation . .
. . ya think? :1orglaugh


You know, a little bird told me that Marco is really a naturalized Koo-ban...
Hush hush now!
:tinhat:


:1orglaugh :tongue:



What, do lefties cross their legs differently? :confused: :1orglaugh


Uh....pssst...maybe no one's bothered with your sideshow here because no one's aware of any Demo challenging the fact that the guy was born in the US (Miami, FL).

Probably the same birdiots who whispered in your (h)ear he was a Cuban are the same bloodshot loons who are perpetuating this Obama nonsense.:eek:
 

vodkazvictim

Why save the world, when you can rule it?
Uh....pssst...maybe no one's bothered with your sideshow here because no one's aware of any Demo challenging the fact that the guy was born in the US (Miami, FL).

Probably the same birdiots who whispered in your (h)ear he was a Cuban are the same bloodshot loons who are perpetuating this Obama nonsense.:eek:
Bloodshot loon, you say?
 
Can we just let this thread die? I'm sick of hearing about every little detail about Obama's existence, if anyone deserves to be microscopically investigated it's George Bush as millions of people are dead (inc thousands of Americans) because of him. These threads always end up in the same way :facepalm:
 
You could not possibly be more wrong. Like to many conservatives, you base your opinions on what you want to believe without a shred of evidence, and in fact ignore contrary evidence. In fact it sas become popular to simply make up “facts”.

Over half the Republican primary voters are birthers.


"Birthers make a majority among those voters who say they're likely to participate in a Republican primary next year. 51% say they don't think Barack Obama was born in the United States to just 28% who firmly believe that he was and 21% who are unsure. The GOP birther majority is a new development. The last time PPP tested this question nationally, in August of 2009, only 44% of Republicans said they thought Obama was born outside the country while 36% said that he definitely was born in the United States. If anything birtherism is on the rise."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/15/birther-poll_n_823666.html

http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2011/02/romney-and-birthers.html

Did you see the interview with the pollster? He's a Democratic pollster and said that criticism of the poll questions had a lot of merit.
 
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