Is Obama really (born) American or Not?

[sayvara]

Big debate with my friend's conservative parents last night. I say yes, still doubters, if so why? They were 99.9% sure he ain't.
:dunno:

Your friend's parents are morons... plain and simple.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/

http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/graphics/birthCertObama.jpg

(Pardons if the inclusion of this image breaks the rules but it is rather important to the discussion)

/S

 

[Trinidad Gyrl]

Booty Snatcher! checked out that info. Most people don't point out what you said. It's true. Didn't know that stuff. Anyway even if I show 10 constitutional websites with that info some people won't believe it unless you hit them with a baseball bat.

:bowdown:

 

[Ulysses31]

Booty Snatcher! checked out that info. Most people don't point out what you said. It's true. Didn't know that stuff. Anyway even if I show 10 constitutional websites with that info some people won't believe it unless you hit them with a baseball bat.

:bowdown:

Stop hanging around with assholes

 

[Hot Mega]

Booty Snatcher! checked out that info. Most people don't point out what you said. It's true. Didn't know that stuff. Anyway even if I show 10 constitutional websites with that info some people won't believe it unless you hit them with a baseball bat.

:bowdown:

A bat? You could concoct an elixir from it then waterboard them in it and they still wouldn't give up.

Stop hanging around with assholes

^^This.

 

[Neutron66]

Two things that the birthers just haven't gotten through their tiny minds:

HE SHOWED HIS FUCKING BIRTH CERTIFICATE ALREADY!!!!!

Second...if there was any chance he was not born in the USA, don't you think the fucking Clintons would've been ALL OVER IT?!?!?!?

 

[Ace Bandage]

I've decided that it should be legal to shoot people who are still a part of the birther movement. They aren't advancing humanity at all, so there's no reason to keep them around.

Harp on his economic policies, call him a socialist, discredit his military credentials and performance, or rip on Obamacare. Those are reasonable ways of questioning or attacking the president. Claiming that he was born in another country is just fucking stupid. GTFO!

 

[JayJohn85]

Don't erode your constitution with such drivel....Anyone born in America is an American. Errr he was born in the US?

 

[vodkazvictim]

Does it matter? He completely failed to turn america around. Just another load of bullshit, allways the same interests calling the shots.

 

[Hot Mega]

Does it matter? He completely failed to turn america around. Just another load of bullshit, allways the same interests calling the shots.

I don't know if it's the same jokers calling the same shots. But as far as completely failing at turning things around, he inherited an economic circumstance somewhere between the Great Depression and the one Reagan inherited.

Easy to understand the post depression economy taking longer than this one to turn around but Reagan took longer than Obama.:2 cents:

 

[enndaley]

The Constitution isn't clear as to what contitutes (sic!) a "natural-born citizen". His mom was a US citizen, therefore it normally wouldn't be questioned. Unfortunately, people are so agitated about his policies that they go off the deep end regarding conspiracies-like claiming he's the 12th Imam.

 

[Hot Mega]

His mom was a US citizen, therefore it normally wouldn't be questioned. Unfortunately, people are so agitated about his policies that they go off the deep end regarding conspiracies-like claiming he's the 12th Imam.

They are? People have been babbling about this since before he became president and it's the product of a ridiculously corrupted interview by a conservative 'investigative' 'reporter'.

The guy took liberties (describing in the best possible light) with words that were erroneously said in an interview by a person who's English wasn't very good but was immediately corrected .

This guy chose not to report the statements as intended and in their proper context. Thus creating some inconsistency which has been and still is being taking advantage of for nonsense.

 

[Ike Stain]

Actually, this thread is starting to turn me the other way. Now I'm not so sure...

 

[enndaley]

They are? People have been babbling about this since before he became president and it's the product of a ridiculously corrupted interview by a conservative 'investigative' 'reporter'.

The guy took liberties (describing in the best possible light) with words that were erroneously said in an interview by a person who's English wasn't very good but was immediately corrected .

This guy chose not to report the statements as intended. Thus creating some inconsistency which has been and still is being taking advantage of for nonsense.

There's no end of conspiracy theories regarding Obama-he's the 12th Imam, the anti-christ, Marxist, all the above, etc. As for proof-if someone believes it's true, that is proof enough.

 

[vodkazvictim]

I don't know if it's the same jokers calling the same shots. But as far as completely failing at turning things around, he inherited an economic circumstance somewhere between the Great Depression and the one Reagan inherited.

Easy to understand the post depression economy taking longer than this one to turn around but Reagan took longer than Obama.:2 cents:

It seems unproven that he's stopped many problems. You're military spending is still nuts for a start.

 

[Hot Mega]

There's no end of conspiracy theories regarding Obama-he's the 12th Imam, the anti-christ, Marxist, all the above, etc.

:1orglaugh ...It's the gold man....the gold. I mean, could 12 Imam correlate to something like the "12 planet"?:eek:

As for proof-if someone believes it's true, that is proof enough.

There is a word for this. Some people call it 'stupidity'...I will just stick with incorrigible.:o

 

[enndaley]

You'll have to ask the Shias about the 12th Imam-I know that "19" is a significant number to followers of Louis Farrakan.

 

[darkwarrior3007]

I've decided that it should be legal to shoot people who are still a part of the birther movement. They aren't advancing humanity at all, so there's no reason to keep them around.

Harp on his economic policies, call him a socialist, discredit his military credentials and performance, or rip on Obamacare. Those are reasonable ways of questioning or attacking the president. Claiming that he was born in another country is just fucking stupid. GTFO!

If this became legal, I'd go buy a gun tomorrow.

 

[anomaly]

Did we land on the moon?

 

[CunningStunts]

Why are we still talking about this? :dunno:

 

[Hot Mega]

You'll have to ask the Shias about the 12th Imam-I know that "19" is a significant number to followers of Louis Farrakan.

Just Farrakhan? Well, I suppose it's just a coincidence the Jefferson (3rd Potus) and Lincoln (16th Potus) memorials are 19 feet each with the L/M being 19 ft wide as well. Also, from the steps of the Capitol to the L/M is exactly 1.9 miles.