All OCSMs need to read this....

[Jane Burgess]

No one should be abusive to each other on here. You can disagree on issues and leave it at that.

What about OCSM's that that want to be abusive to other members who disagree with them. Should regular members be expected to quietly take abuse and smile?

 

[Aaliyah Love]

Why?



Why am I? Because I want other models to feel like they can actually post in other places on the board other than in their own babe threads, without getting shit thrown at them?!

Well I for one appreciate it and thank you Briana Yes, you have to have a tough skin to be able to hang on forums like this. You have to be super tough just to work in porn. But it doesn't mean that that's the way it SHOULD be, it's def not the kind of environment I enjoy on forums I frequent. Most porn forums treat the actual porn performers like SHIT until they leave. They're all basically hostile, rude, mean sausage parties. Maybe some people enjoy arguing on forums and think we should just "shut up and give it back" but that's not my idea of a good time and def not why I come here.

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alexpnz feels the need to defend his right to be an asshole to everyone. You'll have to forgive him; it's all he has...

Actually, Alexpnz is my favorite poster on this forum. He's a fucking awesome dude IMO

 

[Mr. Daystar]

What about OCSM's that that want to be abusive to other members who disagree with them. Should regular members be expected to quietly take abuse and smile?

If you read it, it says they have to treat you with the same respect they want to be treated with.

 

[ChuckFaze]

Christophe...I think You Misunderstood...when I told you to "go fuck yourself" I meant "Wow what an enormous cock you have! It looks like you could actually fuck yourself if you wanted to!" I mean..that's not abusive...that's a compliment!

:rofl: Too funny! :rofl2:

 

[cindy CD/TV]

So, yeah. One of the core responsibilities of every member of this all-powerful and ubiquitous secret society is to treat others the way they would wanna be treated. Kinda says something, no?

Couldn't have said it better myself! :goodpost:

 

[christophe]

No. That's even spelled out. You use the report function if an OCSM is abusive.

Seriously, it's right there...

I know what the new rules say, I read them! I have also been around, I know what the actual practice will be! You have seen it yourself in the rusults of the Miss FO contest! These admin are not going to raise a finger against an OCSM, to correct them or be punitive in any measure. They are terrified of losing OCSM's, because the forum might stop if the OCSM's leave. I have already seen this behavior in the last three months. I have absolutely no doubt that it will not only continue, but escalate.

 

[HappyHapyJoyJoy]

I know what the new rules say, I read them! I have also been around, I know what the actual practice will be!

I'm sure you've also seen people attack OCSMs. There's a few people who've had unplanned vacations recently, folks who went out of their way to harass a few specific OCSMs, and previously that wouldn't have happened. So maybe things are changing. As little as a month ago it was like there wasn't any rules at all. Now, well, the punishments may not be much, the bans may be short, but we've seen something. If it's happening on one side of the fence it might happen on the other as well. Can't say until we see some... well, misbehavin'.

And no, you're never going to see equality. Shouldn't either. We're not equal. The OCSMs provide content. They provide a reason for people to come here. They get traffic. So yeah, if rules are upheld they'll likely see a lesser penalty, but previously no one saw any. So, hey, we could be looking at progress.

You have seen it yourself in the rusults of the Miss FO contest! These admin are not going to raise a finger against an OCSM, to correct them or be punitive in any measure.

Seen it, and don't agree with it, but that's not the same thing. That person isn't even an OCSM, as they don't post. They did for awhile, in a limited fashion, but they were already driven away well before Miss FreeOnes. Why did that get a pass? Probably not because of the person in particular. Maybe it was because of who was backing them. Maybe it was just the FO team being lax with the rules. Maybe it was a lot of things. I don't agree with the call, but it's unrelated to what we're seeing here, and wasn't even made my the same people. That was the FO Team at work, here we're looking at moderators.

 

[christophe]

The board needs to keep the OCSMs. They are the draw. They provide content. You do not, so no, you don't deserve the same treatment.

I also forsee it having a negative impact on the OCSM's as well, because the normal members know there is no equality, that will inevitably prevent many of these OCSM's from recruiting new fans because normal members will be so concerned about "walking on eggshells" with the stars that it will discourage them from looking for new, or to other threads. I know that I am already pruning my area of involvement on this forum as well as severely lowering the number of OCSM's I bother to interact with. In fact, this does have the potential to prevent new "regular" people from joining the forum, and convincing some here now, to leave. If things trend that way, the only people on the forum will be the OCSM's. And as for your "only the OCSM's provide content," define what you mean by content! Furthermore, if nobody is around but the OCSM's, to whom are they providing content? Things are not as unrelated as you believe them to be.

 

[HappyHapyJoyJoy]

I also forsee it having a negative impact on the OCSM's as well, because the normal members know there is no equality, that will inevitably prevent many of these OCSM's from recruiting new fans because normal members will be so concerned about "walking on eggshells" with the stars that it will discourage them from looking for new, or to other threads.

To some extent this will happen, yes. Mostly it's going to be people who are already aggressive and know they might fall into a proverbial pit because of it. Meaning it's mostly going to be problem people. Several of them get along fine with other OCSMs, and might even potentially be customers for them. It's a juggling act. Is this going to be the right balance? Maybe, maybe not. All of the people who've been "banned" (suspended really) are already back. So the punishments aren't severe, even on the end of the average poster (and at least one of them was way out of line). So who knows, give it time and we might find out this is the right spot, or maybe that things need to go further in one direction or the other.

What we know for sure is this; things weren't working before. The board was losing OCSMs, and barring a couple the remainders weren't happy with the situation, some threatening to leave, others cutting back their interaction, and pretty much none of them giving the board good word of mouth to potentially draw in other prospects.

Maybe what we have now isn't it, but what we had definitely wasn't. So... gotta try something new. It's that simple.

And as for your "only the OCSM's provide content," define what you mean by content!

Pics, vids and interaction. Frequently stuff beyond sample galleries. Stuff you generally can't get on any other board. By content I mean worthwhile content. The main draw here isn't witty banter with fellow regular posters, you can find that just about anywhere.

 

[christophe]

To some extent this will happen, yes. Mostly it's going to be people who are already aggressive and know they might fall into a proverbial pit because of it. Meaning it's mostly going to be problem people. Several of them get along fine with other OCSMs, and might even potentially be customers for them. It's a juggling act. Is this going to be the right balance? Maybe, maybe not. All of the people who've been "banned" (suspended really) are already back. So the punishments aren't severe, even on the end of the average poster (and at least one of them was way out of line). So who knows, give it time and we might find out this is the right spot, or maybe that things need to go further in one direction or the other.

What we know for sure is this; things weren't working before. The board was losing OCSMs, and barring a couple the remainders weren't happy with the situation, some threatening to leave, others cutting back their interaction, and pretty much none of them giving the board good word of mouth to potentially draw in other prospects.

Maybe what we have now isn't it, but what we had definitely wasn't. So... gotta try something new. It's that simple.

Well, I believe this, also, isn't it. And I have already witnessed too much to look at things through the same rose colored glasses that you are using. But, whatever, you clearly adamantly refuse to bend to realism, that's fine.

Pics, vids and interaction. Frequently stuff beyond sample galleries. Stuff you generally can't get on any other board. By content I mean worthwhile content. The main draw here isn't witty banter with fellow regular posters, you can find that just about anywhere.

I have seen plenty of content get added to many threads on this forum. Content does not mean exclusively, promotional material for one OCSM's site or another's. That kind of "content" is promotional advertising anyway, same as what is on the main site. It is still all oriented to attract new subscribers to respective websites. That is a very limited definition of content.

 

[squallumz]

so much drama. this is like a hair salon.

an E, if you please.

 

[AerynWalker]

Mandy Flores[/URL][/B] , post: 7499986, member: 346743"]
Not as much as embarrassing that it even needs to be in existence.

This.

 

[HappyHapyJoyJoy]

Well, I believe this, also, isn't it. And I have already witnessed too much to look at things through the same rose colored glasses that you are using. But, whatever, you clearly adamantly refuse to bend to realism, that's fine.

I am being realistic. We won't know how this effects things until it plays out a bit. We haven't seen that yet. All we've seen is that the system that was in place was poison. Might this be worse poison? Maybe. Maybe not. That's realism. What's not realistic is sticking to the same poisonous system that wasn't working.

That kind of "content" is promotional advertising anyway, same as what is on the main site.

You can find random sample galleries posted anywhere, just like you can find random chat anywhere. What makes this board relatively unique is the group of OCSMs. Many of them have posted fan signs, candid pics, custom pics, requests, etc.. Stuff that's not just sitting around on the main site, nor on other boards. That makes this a tool for them to reach out and find new fans, and a tool for people here to find them. Take that away? It's a porn board, and there are many others.

That is a very limited definition of content.

So what do you think makes this board special? Random people posting? Sections for random chat or off-topic posting? A sub-form form for specific fetishes? If it's not the OCSMs, then what is it? What's the draw for FreeOnes?

 

[alexpnz]

alexpnz feels the need to defend his right to be an asshole to everyone. You'll have to forgive him; it's all he has...

1) I was just fucking with her...

2) Who...who are you again?

EDIT: To answer my own question (#2), I have been informed that you are indeed, the new forum blowhard who feels the need to give CNN type responses on a porn forum!

:hatsoff:

 

[Aaliyah Love]

I also forsee it having a negative impact on the OCSM's as well, because the normal members know there is no equality, that will inevitably prevent many of these OCSM's from recruiting new fans because normal members will be so concerned about "walking on eggshells" with the stars that it will discourage them from looking for new, or to other threads. I know that I am already pruning my area of involvement on this forum as well as severely lowering the number of OCSM's I bother to interact with. In fact, this does have the potential to prevent new "regular" people from joining the forum, and convincing some here now, to leave. If things trend that way, the only people on the forum will be the OCSM's. And as for your "only the OCSM's provide content," define what you mean by content! Furthermore, if nobody is around but the OCSM's, to whom are they providing content? Things are not as unrelated as you believe them to be.

man.. you are WHINEY! Seriously!

Go to a forum where all of the people who ACTUALLY WORK IN PORN have been driven out and all that is left is people who want to talk and bitch about porn. Why do you have such a problem with the fact that FreeOnes is actually attempting to do something to keep the actual porn performers around?
And content=pictures, videos, fansigns, the free candid pics we post for free here for you all to enjoy.. ya know.. PORN! SMH..
And nobody has to "walk on eggshells".. just not be a total, compete insulting ASSHOLE to the very girls you guys are here to discuss.. is that such a hard concept for you? JEEZ

 

[HappyHapyJoyJoy]

1) I was just fucking with her...

Isn't that kind of the point? You can't, "Why I never..." something in that case. Yeah, it's more or less your schtick, but schtick or not it is what it is. I wasn't even so much aiming to be offensive there, so much as cheeky and trite. Which is to say that, essentially, I was fucking with you...

If you took it more seriously than it was intended, I apologize. It wasn't meant as such. If it were you'd have gotten a paragraph or two berating you. (see sig)

2) Who...who are you again?

EDIT: To answer my own question (#2), I have been informed that you are indeed, the new forum blowhard who feels the need to give CNN type responses on a porn forum!

:hatsoff:

First, I'm far from a blowhard because I backup what I say. Second, CNN-type responses? When did I start inundating people with infographics...?

 

[christophe]

My point has just been proven! Thanks! :thumbsup:

 

[alexpnz]

Isn't that kind of the point? You can't, "Why I never..." something in that case. Yeah, it's more or less your schtick, but schtick or not it is what it is. I wasn't even so much aiming to be offensive there, so much as cheeky and trite. Which is to say that, essentially, I was fucking with you...

If you took it more seriously than it was intended, I apologize. It wasn't meant as such. If it were you'd have gotten a paragraph or two berating you. (see sig)



First, I'm far from a blowhard because I backup what I say. Second, CNN-type responses? When did I start inundating people with infographics...?

You inundate with your constant quoting and your follow up, bag of wind-judgmental response.

AND, anybody who feels the need to announce their forthcoming responses with a disclaimer in a dumbass signature should seek further counseling.

Lighten up Brah, it's a porn forum.
Always remember.......ass and titties.

 

[HappyHapyJoyJoy]

You inundate with your constant quoting and your follow up, bag of wind-judgmental response.

AND, anybody who feels the need to announce their forthcoming responses with a disclaimer in a dumbass signature should seek further counseling.

I have Asperger's. Part of the syndrome is odd use of language, which in turn can lead to miscommunication. Counseling doesn't help that, and it's never going to change.

Now do yourself a favor and put me on your ignore list, since you obviously have a problem with my condition and will likely keep taking issue with what I post. Bye.

 

[alexpnz]

I have Asperger's. Part of the syndrome is odd use of language, which in turn can lead to miscommunication. Counseling doesn't help that, and it's never going to change.

Now do yourself a favor and put me on your ignore list, since you obviously have a problem with my condition and will likely keep taking issue with what I post. Bye.

Like I'm supposed to know you have some fuckin syndrome...?

Feel better soon. :dunno:


BTW, I'm a real man and real men don't use the ignore button. :nono: