Well fucking get a Natl' championship under your conferences belts first! When was the last time another conference has won a Natl' Championship? Oh yeah 3 fucking years! Money talks bullshit walks. And trust me the SEC has the money and the fans.. How can you be surprised by this if you are college football fan? Let's see most people in the conferences like the Big East and Big 10 could really give a shit so there goes those viewers and they might even resort to watching a great SEC game. Once you get down here to SEC territory you can't find a soul who is not a die hard fan of their team or their conference.
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Well fucking get a Natl' championship under your conferences belts first! When was the last time another conference has won a Natl' Championship? Oh yeah 3 fucking years! Money talks bullshit walks. And trust me the SEC has the money and the fans.. How can you be surprised by this if you are college football fan? Let's see most people in the conferences like the Big East and Big 10 could really give a shit so there goes those viewers and they might even resort to watching a great SEC game. Once you get down here to SEC territory you can't find a soul who is not a die hard fan of their team or their conference.
Skyraider22
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Speaking of the Big east what this I hear about the Syracuse Orange rumored to go to the Gig 10 that would screw the Big East and bye-bye automatic bid for the BCS and that wold open up a Big 10 Champion game anyone else heard about this:dunno:
Jagger69
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Jason, no offense, but that is one of the most ignorant and arrogant posts I have ever read on this forum. TV networks are not about championships.....they are about ratings. Regardless of what you think, viewers in Cleveland and Chicago and Minneapolis and Detroit would much rather watch a Big 10 game than an SEC game. Likewise here in Texas....we'd rather watch Big 12. Second largest TV market in the nation is LA. You think they'd rather watch Vanderbilt at Kentucky or USC vs. Oregon? Damn right money talks and bullshit walks but places like Gainesville and Tuscaloosa are not exactly media capitals. Oh, and your "3 fucking years" comment. So fucking what? That's not exactly a dynasty. I already said that, overall, the SEC is the most talented conference in the nation. That doesn't mean you can infer everyone else is shit and not worth caring about. Thank God for regional Fox sports networks so the rest of us don't have to have the SEC crammed down our throats every week.
I lived in SEC territory for well over a decade and not everyone is an SEC fan by a longshot. Your smack-talk comments are way over the top, dude. I can appreciate your dedication to your school and your conference but, next time, flush the gatorade out of your brain before you think about making an idiotic post like this.
I sure hope not. The Orange program is in a shambles and has been for some time. I don't see this occurring but I wouldn't be surprised if they do add another school at some point.
Ace Bandage
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Ha! You must not get out much. Try branching out of your bubble once in a while. I don't even know when I last watched an SEC conference game. Here in the Midwest, if there's Big Ten football on, that's what we're watching. Hell, we even have our own network now which means we can pretty much see all the conference games - lessening the chance I'm going to watch someone else. Let me hit you with some knowledge - the SEC might be king in parts of the south, but don't think for one solitary second that it's a nationwide draw. If you think Big Ten viewers would tune in to see an SEC game even if there were Big Ten teams playing, you're mistaken. People tend to follow teams that play in close proximity to where they live regardless of where they are ranked.
And I could couldn't care less about how the Gators and that fuckin' douche bag Tebow are playing. Like most of the country, I'll be rooting for them to lose at least twice this year - that way they can't backdoor their way into the title game twice. But if you think I'll be tuning in to see it happen, think again. I'll be at Ross-Ade Stadium rooting on my Boilermakers instead. They might not be national title contenders (or even mediocre for that matter), but that doesn't change the fact that I'm going to every game I can. Boiler Up!
Well said.
Also, I heard Tebow is going to forego his NFL career and ascend straight to heaven.
Skyraider22
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Well from my understanding it is just rumor for now the Big Ten from what I heard is trying to avoid that big layoff they have after their season ends and the Bowl season starts
Jagger69
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Well, honestly, they should.....for the extra revenue alone if for no other reason. I think that ultimately every major conference will go to this format.
Now, if we could just get rid of the BCS and go to a playoff....oh, wait, that's another thread somewhere.
Ace Bandage
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If the Big Ten adds another team, they're going to have to find another subtle way to change the logo so that it looks like a twelve instead of an eleven in the middle. I never really noticed in until someone pointed it out, and now it's all that I see. Am I only unobservant fool who didn't see this before?
Skyraider22
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Don't feel bad I have been saying that for years:dunno:
God I hope not. I don't like conference championship games, and I hate conference championship tournaments in basketball.
I love em in football, but I hate conference basketball tournaments. I hope the Big 10 picks up another team. The Big 10 champ is at a major disadvantage because the conference schedule ends before Thanksgiving while everyone else is playing into December.
Out West, I think USC gets ripped off often. There has been a couple times in the last few years where I thought they would mop the floor with any team in the Championship game, but they didn't get in. If they had a conference championship game and had a chance to avenge an early season misstep, could they have gotten in the Championship game? :dunno: Although, at least the Pac 10 plays everyone in the conference.
Skyraider22
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I have them winning the Big Ten I think it will be between Penn State and and Michigan State The Land Grant Trophy :scream:
Really well did you live in Alabama, Arkansas, Mississisppi, or South Carolina? Yeah because Thats all people care about is their college football because they have no professional teams.. Gatorade? This is where Gatorade was invented you know. Your the one complaining about how the SEC will be on all these markets. Well you just answered your own question. DONT WATCH IT then if its so bad. Nothing is being crammed down anybodys throat so quit whining! LOL not a dynasty.. LOL SO why has the SEC won the most championships since The BCS system was put into place? and 3 years in a row..... What was the last conference to do that. Make that 4 because I guarantee If we don't do it this year one of the other teams will from our conference. Everybody is tired of seeing Ohio State/Gatorbait in a title every year getting their ass handed to them. Add Oklahoma to that list too!
Well, last year USC didn't deserve to be in the National Championship. Sure, they had a great team, but losing to Oregon St. is major no no when there's three other teams who had the same record and better scheduel.
I personaly think there is a major USC bias, especially last year in the first week when they stomped Virginia and leaped from 3 to 1 in the country. USC will be missing a lot players from last year, but will still be ranked in the top 10 just out of respect. I think USC fans should be the last people talking about getting ripped off, or just call it fair.
Starting to lose a lot of respect for you Jason. I didn't know Alabama, Arkansas, Mississisppi, and South Carolina represented the entire nation. I personally love SEC football, but the point is not everyone does. People mainly want to see their own conference play. If you think about it, Big-12 high octain offenses would probably be the more exciting football for the entire nation to watch, but I am a Big 12 guy so thats probably my bias.
Skyraider22
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Well I'm an ACC and SEC fan and I live in the heart of SEC countrybut I love to see the Big 12 play because of the offense but my heart is with Flordia State well I'm just a big college football fan period so if I'm going to be bias I'm going to stick with my team not my region because if I could i would watch the WAC,Sun Belt,and so on I'm blessed to have the Big 10 network,CSS,CBS Coolege sports,ESPN U and other sports network so I can watch out of market games and to tell you the truth I love them all I wish I could see more of the teams out West so i guess I have the best of both worldsanyway I like the Big 10 as well as far as the trophy they play for like The Little Brown Jug,Land Grant,IlliBuck and so on I love games like that it really gives something for the kids to play for besides the National Champion and their conferences:thumbsup:
Jagger69
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Read the post. I didn't say they don't care about college football. I said they don't all care about the SEC which was the exact claim you made.
And this has what relevance to the subject?
Your reading comprehension skills must not be very good. I never said it wasn't good (I watch lots of SEC football). Overall, it's very good.....as I already said 3 times now, the best overall talent in the country. It does give me pause to know, however, that there is a national network in addition to CBS that is going to focus on the conference.....that's what I said. Go back and read it. I've worked in the media and I can tell you a national TV network will not survive long with states like Alabama, Arkansas, Mississippi and South Carolina as their base.
You seem to think that college football was invented with the BCS. Here are some statistics for you to consider, Jason:
Top 10 NCAA Division I (now called FBS) poll champions of all time and the number of championships they have won:
Notre Dame-12
Alabama-11
USC-10
Michigan-7
Oklahoma-7
Minnesota-6
Pittsburgh-6
Miami(FL), Nebraska, Ohio State-5
Army, Georgia Tech, Illinois, Texas, Tennessee-4
Seems to be pretty spread out to me (4 conferences dominant....):
Big 10-22
Big 12-16
SEC-15
Pac 10-10
Champions since 2000:
2000-Oklahoma
2001-Miami
2002-Ohio State
2003-LSU/USC shared (what a joke!)
2004-USC
2005-Texas
2006-Florida
2007-LSU
2008-Florida
So, again, for 3 years the SEC has walked off with the mythical national title. Great job....I give them their props, justly due. Hardly a dynasty however.
As I said in my original post, a national TV network needs a broad base of viewers in order to survive. They're taking a huge risk by competing with CBS (and ESPN and the Fox regional networks as well) in this regard. Although I feel pretty certain that you probably don't lower yourself to watching anything other than SEC football, most of the other fans across the nation would rather see their teams (usually based on regional preferences as Andronicus pointed out) than some second-tier SEC matchup (which is all this network is likely to get since I am sure that CBS gets their pick of games each week).
It amazes me that fans like you simply refuse to admit that anyone is worthy of consideration for respect other than your own team or conference. If that were true, why bother playing them? Indeed, what meaning does it really have if your team or conference beats a team that is from a vastly inferior conference?
There's a great quote from the movie Jeremiah Johnson where Grizzly Adams (Will Geer) tells Jeremiah (Robert Redford) that there is an old Crow Indian saying....."A man is judged by how mighty his enemies be". If the SEC's enemies are all weaklings, what does that say about them?
I stand by my original assertion that your initial reply to my post was ignorant and arrogant. Your follow-up did nothing to change my mind. From the general consensus of replies from the other posters, they would seem to agree with me.
I am in no way a USC fan, believe me, I hate the Trojans. I'm just saying I think they get the short end of the stick a lot of time.
Sure they lost to Oregon last year, but Florida had a loss and so did Oklahoma. The Sooners get blown out of BCS bowels every year, why do they get in instead of USC. Fla lost to Ole Miss, why the gators and not USC?
In 2003 USC had one loss and were ranked #1, but didn’t get in the Championship game because LSU and a crappy Oklahoma team did.
Not to mention since the start of the BCS system, the Trojans are 6-1 in BCS bowl games.
Jagger69
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I agree 100%, BI but as we all recall Texas and Utah can make similar points. It's just the way the BCS "system" works.
Hey, we could dive back into the whole BCS-mess versus a playoff argument again! That's always a productive exchange!
Of course it wasn't the BSC that gypped Texas last year, it was the Big 12 conference rules that screwed over the horns. If anyone watched the Red River shootout, there is NO WAY Oklahoma belonged in the Championship game.
Everyone bad moths the Buckeyes but at least they are 4-3 in BCS Bowl games, Oklahoma is 3-5!
Everyone bad moths the Buckeyes but at least they are 4-3 in BCS Bowl games, Oklahoma is 3-5!
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