On the stream I was watching, we pretty much predicted the out comes of all the matches in the chat box. The "original" ending to the last match was actually the surprise for us, then of course the predicted ending happened.
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The surprise to me came that Del Rio looked in decent shape at the end of his match, as I thought the whole point of having another Last Man Standing match was that so Bertie could win but have knackered himself doing so, so that Ziggler could cash in.
I was also devastated that Sexy Warrior VS Tamina was pulled.
I was also devastated that Sexy Warrior VS Tamina was pulled.
i find it funny that even though there was no "evidence" that the shield interfered with the title match that vince was going to strip Punk of the title....or restart the match like it was.
how about every match that gets interfered with as the ref doesn't see or the ref gets "knocked out" gets restarted? isn't that sorta hypocritical? We'll restart a ppv match because of injustice but we will let it happen 100 times during the year without incident?!!
how about every match that gets interfered with as the ref doesn't see or the ref gets "knocked out" gets restarted? isn't that sorta hypocritical? We'll restart a ppv match because of injustice but we will let it happen 100 times during the year without incident?!!
It's not hypocritical at all. Vince said explicitly that if The Shield interfered in the Championship match then CM Punk would be stripped of the title. That's the difference between the match last night and the other 100 times it happens throughout the year. Now it's true that we actually didn't see The Shield and we only have the commentators word but it's probably a safe bet. Of course, it could have been a fake out by Vince to get the belt off Punk because he is definitely not above that, but I do feel confidently that The Shield was involved in the match. We'll see how this all plays out tonight.
PlasmaTwa2
The Second-Hottest Man in my Mother's Basement
I enjoyed that, for once, pro wrestling did something logical. I hate how interference always goes unpunished even when it is supposed to be a major matchup, so to actually have Vince come out and keep his word was awesome.
Like darkwarrior said, I'm sure Punk will try to weasel his way out of this by arguing no one knows if it was actually Shield or not. They'll probably get Cole to go back on what he said last night and admit he didn't really see them.
Yeah, I gotta go with DarkWarrior and PlasmaTwa2 on this one. I had no problem with Vince calling out Punk and The Shield and having the match restarted. (Might have been actually pretty cool just to have Punk stripped, leaving it vacant until The Elimination Chamber), but the payoff for me was Rock's line alone...
"No, no, no, no, no! You don't strip him of the belt.....I DO!!!!"
The only real issue I had was Punk getting pinned so quickly after that. There should have been a bunch of back and forth pins (like ANY of the last WM 'Taker matches in the past 4 years), with Rock eventually coming out on top. One quick Rock-Bottom and that was it? Pffft! Missed opportunity to make this a lock as "Match of The year".
"No, no, no, no, no! You don't strip him of the belt.....I DO!!!!"
The only real issue I had was Punk getting pinned so quickly after that. There should have been a bunch of back and forth pins (like ANY of the last WM 'Taker matches in the past 4 years), with Rock eventually coming out on top. One quick Rock-Bottom and that was it? Pffft! Missed opportunity to make this a lock as "Match of The year".
YES! Agreed! And with the interview with Y2J on wwe.com last night after the Rumble it seems like he's back for more than just the one-night gig. NICE!
BAYAMONXXX
Land Of The Snakes
That...is...pathetic. I really hope that's not his girlfriend or wife. He should have neither.
alexpnz
Lord Dipstick
Yeah, that twat's missed the point. It's nothing to do with "a movie" at all. Looking at the state of both him and his room, I'd be stunned if Bridget is his mrs. Sister, friend, carer maybe. I love his shirt though. He doesn't need to wear it, we already knew he's a "Paul Heyman guy."
Really? To have a man hold the World title that long and then end without any payoff, without someone getting the benefit of ending such an epic reign, would have come across as a massive waste to me.
Really? To have a man hold the World title that long and then end without any payoff, without someone getting the benefit of ending such an epic reign, would have come across as a massive waste to me.
BTW Atlas it wasn't even a rock-bottom..... it was a people's elbow that won the match.
LMAO! You're right!!!! I thought it was such a lame ending to a 400+ day run that I even missed that. A People's Elbow makes it worse....if that was even possible!!!! And I actually really wanted Rock to win!!!
The Rock beat Triple H with said same move to win the WWF title. He also beat Hulk Hogan with it at WrestleMania XVIII. Enough to beat two of the most decorated champions in the history of wrestling, enough to beat CM fucking Punk.
The internet has exploded with a load of crybaby smarks going mad about either what happened at the Royal Rumble or how it happened being terrible. Before I continue, I would like to say that CM Punk is my favourite wrestler on the roster at the moment. However, some of the reactions (like our fat friend in that video) are beyond belief, and some people quite badly need a slap. Shamelessly C&P from a forum I frequent, the tumblr of papashangoislate has a perfect response to some of the crying.
Anyone who thinks Punk should have stood stronger and survived even more of Rock's offence than the guy above states, clearly misses the point of Punk's position. He's a heel. His job is not to be valiant and look invincible ; it's to be a dickhead that you hope will lose, and hopefully pay money to see the babyface beat. He's the Honky Tonk Man relying on Jimmy Hart's megaphone, he's Money Inc running away from LOD, he's Hall & Nash cheating the Steiners. He's weaseled out with the belt around every corner. Ever since he turned, he's cheated, used shortcuts, screwed people over. Made you think time and time again that if a face had a level playing field, they'd have beaten him. What happened on Sunday was finally a level playing field, and his goose was finally cooked.
He's held the title a long time - this doesn't make him impossible to beat. Like I said, he's been lucky or had help when the title has been on the line, and off the top of my head he got pinned by Shellshock in the run up to Survivors. If you have him kicking out of everybody's shit all the time, you get people thinking "wow, Punk's tough" and then even more people might cheer him (despite him being meant to be a heel) beyond the existing hordes of "CENA SUX!1" morons and ROHbot/workrate perverts that already do. I was watching The John Cena Experience DVD earlier, and as much as I appreciate Punk as a wrestler, it breaks my heart that people boo Cena given the amount of effort he puts in with the Make A Wish kids, and cheer a guy like Punk who is a complete asshole in real life (yes, I've met him) who genuinely seems to hate us all.
As a CM Punk fan, I actually have no major problem with what happened as far as the main event at RR went, though it was by no means without flaws.
If this happened 6 months to a year ago, I would've been disgusted because Punk's title reign didn't feel like it had run its course yet. The audience has the power to bury people and, like many Punk fans, we believe that McMahon can take a cue and try to make the Universe forget him. This paranoia is justified if we look at some of the company's history with its talent, especially in this age of SuperCenas and MightyRandys. Still, love him or hate him, CM Punk will stand in WWE history as one of its most revered stars of all time.
Punk had a great run and who's to say it's the last?
When someone holds it for as long as he had, many people begin to stop caring about the championship. It turns into just "a thing that guy wears all the time".
The championship title is like money: you only feel it when it's moving.
However, moving it too often results in a clusterfuck, which also lessens the prestige of the title.
I used to think it was a shitty move on WWE's part to put a visitor (which I pegged the Rock as due to his long off-and-on absence) in the main event instead of a year-rounder, but when it comes to someone like Rock, Austin, Taker, HHH, HBK, Cena, Punk, guys with a track record like theirs don't have to restart at the bottom, because they've proved themselves main event worthy. Besides, how long can a heel hold the belt before a face "overcomes the bad guy"? Such is the way of the Universe. Yeah, Rock won it with a People's Elbow. He has beat many great opponents with it. Remember kids, Punk ain't Superman, nor should he be.
We can only hope the story goes somewhere entertaining.
If this happened 6 months to a year ago, I would've been disgusted because Punk's title reign didn't feel like it had run its course yet. The audience has the power to bury people and, like many Punk fans, we believe that McMahon can take a cue and try to make the Universe forget him. This paranoia is justified if we look at some of the company's history with its talent, especially in this age of SuperCenas and MightyRandys. Still, love him or hate him, CM Punk will stand in WWE history as one of its most revered stars of all time.
Punk had a great run and who's to say it's the last?
When someone holds it for as long as he had, many people begin to stop caring about the championship. It turns into just "a thing that guy wears all the time".
The championship title is like money: you only feel it when it's moving.
However, moving it too often results in a clusterfuck, which also lessens the prestige of the title.
I used to think it was a shitty move on WWE's part to put a visitor (which I pegged the Rock as due to his long off-and-on absence) in the main event instead of a year-rounder, but when it comes to someone like Rock, Austin, Taker, HHH, HBK, Cena, Punk, guys with a track record like theirs don't have to restart at the bottom, because they've proved themselves main event worthy. Besides, how long can a heel hold the belt before a face "overcomes the bad guy"? Such is the way of the Universe. Yeah, Rock won it with a People's Elbow. He has beat many great opponents with it. Remember kids, Punk ain't Superman, nor should he be.
We can only hope the story goes somewhere entertaining.
great points by MrSStiffy & Moonchild. stiffy no offense but you are a true wrestling mark! i honestly had ZERO idea (or recollection) that the Rock beat both Trips & hogan with a people's elbow! i have been watching wrestling since bob backlund's corner threw in the towel vs the Iron Sheik.... i can't remember everything like that! WOW
RAW points of disgust: (the caps ARE necessary!)
#1 when the SHIELD attack anyone.... WHY DO WE NEED THE CAMERA ZIPPING IN AND OUT and CUTTING FROM ANGLE TO ANGLE so you can't see a fucking thing normally? from 0:40- up to the out of the ring action the camera work is fucking atrocious !
AND.... how long have the SHIELD been coming out the same way? 2 months? why is Cole yelling "where are they ??where are they??" hey michael.... look at your monitor at ringside, you can see the camera is going to a wide view...they are coming from the stands like they have been doing for weeks upon weeks now!
#2 why was tensai embarrassed with what he was wearing? he had on all his normal gear and just a lingerie top....just pull the top off and you have on your normal ring attire? i just don't get stupidity sometimes?!?!
RAW points of disgust: (the caps ARE necessary!)
#1 when the SHIELD attack anyone.... WHY DO WE NEED THE CAMERA ZIPPING IN AND OUT and CUTTING FROM ANGLE TO ANGLE so you can't see a fucking thing normally? from 0:40- up to the out of the ring action the camera work is fucking atrocious !
AND.... how long have the SHIELD been coming out the same way? 2 months? why is Cole yelling "where are they ??where are they??" hey michael.... look at your monitor at ringside, you can see the camera is going to a wide view...they are coming from the stands like they have been doing for weeks upon weeks now!
#2 why was tensai embarrassed with what he was wearing? he had on all his normal gear and just a lingerie top....just pull the top off and you have on your normal ring attire? i just don't get stupidity sometimes?!?!
What's your problem with Orton?
From bell to bell his matches make sense and don't suffer from unrealistic Superman comebacks (which unfortunately Cena's can), and he's certainly no Cena in terms of being protected. He's been doing clean jobs all over the shop for the likes of Del Rio and Ziggler and even the irrelevant Kane at 'Mania XXVIII over the last 18 months, he lost to Barrett clean two weeks ago, he even lost the Big Gold Belt (for better or for worse) clean as a sheet to Mark Henry well over a year ago and hasn't had it back since. If anything they've been remarkably inconsistent with Orton since his rise to true World Champion status, he's had to go a year without winning a title three times now, once between the springs of '08 and '09 to give way to a run of Hunter-Edge-Hardy reigns, once again between the end of his hot potato run with Cena at Bragging Rights '09 until Night of Champions '10, and once more today, where as I speak pretty soon a year and a half will have passed since Randy wore even the less-important "SmackDown belt."
