The Official President Donald J. Trump appreciation thread

[Theopolis Q. Hossenffer]

I must admit I was surprised to see Obama get it when he did after such a short time in office.

 

[mongo18]

Even as an Obama supporter I never really saw what he did to deserve the peace prize. That being said, the idea that trump deserves it is laughable, and we should all remember that the guy who nominated him for it is the same guy who nominated him last time, and it's going to prove just as successful this time.

 

[Señor Sarcasmo]

Even as an Obama supporter I never really saw what he did to deserve the peace prize. That being said, the idea that trump deserves it is laughable, and we should all remember that the guy who nominated him for it is the same guy who nominated him last time, and it's going to prove just as successful this time.

Peace deals between Bahrain and United Arab Emirates and Israel, 2 more than Obama had when they gifted him with most popular award. So high school. Lame not what the prize was created for community activists that have done nothing

What president has done more for mid east peace?

 

[gmase]

What president has done more for mid east peace?

Jimmy Carter

 

[Señor Sarcasmo]

Jimmy Carter

Jimmy's was deserved, too. Good southern boy good guy. So a argument for Trump Nobel Peace Prize is a qualified one. Much more than Obama. He probably even said really? When he got his popularity trophy.

 

[gmase]

Jimmy's was deserved, too. Good southern boy good guy. So a argument for Trump Nobel Peace Prize is a qualified one. Much more than Obama. He probably even said really? When he got his popularity trophy.

Except that Israel and Egypt share a border and fought two active wars. Establishing peace between two non-warring partners is not quite the same. Anwar Sadat paid the ultimate price for it.

 

[Señor Sarcasmo]

Except that Israel and Egypt share a border and fought two active wars. Establishing peace between two non-warring partners is not quite the same. Anwar Sadat paid the ultimate price for it.

Still 100 times nore deserving than bobama

 

[Johan]

What president has done more for mid east peace?

Bill Clinton
Clinton got Yithzak Rabin and Yasser Arafat to sign the Oslo Accord in 1993 and the Oslo Accords 2 in 1995. In addition he got Yithzak Rabin and King Hussein of Jordan to sign the Israel-Jordan Peace Treaty in 1994.
Middle East has never been closer to peace than it was in 1995, before Rabin's murder by an Israelian nationalist on November 4th

 

[georges]

Maxim model opens up about ‘finding her place’ after coming out as a Trump supporter
https://dailycaller.com/2020/08/09/...ush&utm_source=daily_caller&utm_campaign=push

Trump hints at vaccine 'surprise' as Biden demands transparency
https://www.newsmax.com/us/vaccine-...=DM143548_09052020&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010504pyppak

Trump calls for 'Animal' who shot LA cops to face death
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/an...=DM145645_09132020&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010502x6oj9x

Trump steps in to save military newspaper on Pentagon chopping block
https://www.westernjournal.com/ap-t...urnal&ats_es=4d2520a7c1a015afe226b01322ab3014

Pompeo strongly defends Trump’s decision To reduce troops in Afghanistan and Iraq
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/pom...265680b20e543dc2a6473c7b9fa19141&source=TPICI

 

[georges]

Bill Clinton
Clinton got Yithzak Rabin and Yasser Arafat to sign the Oslo Accord in 1993 and the Oslo Accords 2 in 1995. In addition he got Yithzak Rabin and King Hussein of Jordan to sign the Israel-Jordan Peace Treaty in 1994.
Middle East has never been closer to peace than it was in 1995, before Rabin's murder by an Israelian nationalist on November 4th

By giving endless territories to a terrorist called Yasser Arafat? How many Intifadas have been made by Palestinians? How many terrorists attacks have there been despite Oslo peace accords? Israeli academic Efraim Karsh described the Accords as "the starkest strategic blunder in [Israel's] history," creating the conditions for "the bloodiest and most destructive confrontation between Israelis and Palestinians since 1948" and radicalizing "a new generation of Palestinians" living under the rule of the Palestinian National Authority and Hamas with "vile anti-Jewish (and anti-Israel) incitement unparalleled in scope and intensity since Nazi Germany." Karsh notes: "All in all, more than 1,600 Israelis have been murdered and another 9,000 wounded since the signing of the DOP [Declaration of Principles]—nearly four times the average death toll of the preceding twenty-six years. These accords were a failure since the start.

 

[Johan]

Efraim Karsh... I should have known you would go for that lunatic. They guy's well known for being a right-wing, anti-arab, pro-zionist extremist. Taking him as a reference when disccussing about the middle-east is like taking Tariq Ramadan as reference when discussing about Islam in western countries.

 

[georges]

Efraim Karsh... I should have known you would go for that lunatic. They guy's well known for being a right-wing, anti-arab, pro-zionist extremist. Taking him as a reference when disccussing about the middle-east is like taking Tariq Ramadan as reference when discussing about Islam in western countries.

Let me remind one good thing because you seem to have a short memory. So let me remind you some facts.
The Global Islamic population is approximately 1,200,000,000; that is one billion two hundred million or 20% of the world's population.
They have received the following Nobel Prizes:
Literature:
1988 - Najib Mahfooz
Peace:
1978 - Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat (For peace with Israel)
1990 - Elias James Corey
1994 - Yaser ArafatWTF???)
1999 - Ahmed Zewai
Economics:
(zero)
Physics:
(zero)
Medicine:
1960 - Peter Brian Medawar
1998 - Ferid Mourad
TOTAL: 7 SEVEN
The Global Jewish population is approximately 14,000,000; that is fourten million or about 0.02% of the world's population.
They have received the following Nobel Prizes:
Literature:
1910 - Paul Heyse
1927 - Henri Bergson
1958 - Boris Pasternak
1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon
1966 - Nelly Sachs
1976 - Saul Bellow
1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer
1981 - Elias Canetti
1987 - Joseph Brodsky
1991 - Nadine Gordimer World
Peace:
1911 - Alfred Fried
1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser
1968 - Rene Cassin
1973 - Henry Kissinger
1978 - Menachem Begin
1986 - Elie Wiesel
1994 - Shimon Peres
1994 - Yitzhak Rabin
Physics:
1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
1906 - Henri Moissan
1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson
1908 - Gabriel Lippmann
1910 - Otto Wallach
1915 - Richard Willstaetter
1918 - Fritz Haber
1921 - Albert Einstein
1922 - Niels Bohr
1925 - James Franck
1925 - Gustav Hertz
1943 - Gustav Stern
1943 - George Charles de Hevesy
1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi
1952 - Felix Bloch
1954 - Max Born
1958 - Igor Tamm
1959 - Emilio Segre
1960 - Donald A. Glaser
1961 - Robert Hofstadter
1961 - Melvin Calvin
1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau
1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz
1965 - Richard Phillips Feynman
1965 - Julian Schwinger
1969 - Murray Gell-Mann
1971 - Dennis Gabor
1972 - William Howard Stein
1973 - Brian David Josephson
1975 - Benjamin Mottleson
1976 - Burton Richter
1977 - Ilya Prigogine
1978 - Arno Allan Penzias
1978 - Peter L Kapitza
1979 - Stephen Weinberg
1979 - Sheldon Glashow
1979 - Herbert Charles Brown
1980 - Paul Berg
1980 - Walter Gilbert
1981 - Roald Hoffmann
1982 - Aaron Klug
1985 - Albert A. Hauptman
1985 - Jerome Karle
1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach
1988 - Robert Huber
1988 - Leon Lederman
1988 - Melvin Schwartz
1988 - Jack Steinberger
1989 - Sidney Altman
1990 - Jerome Friedman
1992 - Rudolph Marcus
1995 - Martin Perl
2000 - Alan J. Heeger
Economics:
1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson
1971 - Simon Kuznets
1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow
1975 - Leonid Kantorovich
1976 - Milton Friedman
1978 - Herbert A. Simon
1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein
1985 - Franco Modigliani
1987 - Robert M. Solow
1990 - Harry Markowitz
1990 - Merton Miller
1992 - Gary Becker
1993 - Robert Fogel
Medicine:
1908 - Elie Metchnikoff
1908 - Paul Erlich
1914 - Robert Barany
1922 - Otto Meyerhof
1930 - Karl Landsteiner
1931 - Otto Warburg
1936 - Otto Loewi
1944 - Joseph Erlanger
1944 - Herbert Spencer Gasser
1945 - Ernst Boris Chain
1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller
1950 - Tadeus Reichstein
1952 - Selman Abraham Waksman
1953 - Hans Krebs
1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann
1958 - Joshua Lederberg
1959 - Arthur Kornberg
1964 - Konrad Bloch
1965 - Francois Jacob
1965 - Andre Lwoff
1967 - George Wald
1968 - Marshall W. Nirenberg
1969 - Salvador Luria
1970 - Julius Axelrod
1970 - Sir Bernard Katz
1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman
1975 - Howard Martin Temin
1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg
1977 - Roselyn Sussman Yalow
1978 - Daniel Nathans
1980 - Baruj Benacerraf
1984 - Cesar Milstein
1985 - Michael Stuart Brown
1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein
1986 - Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi-Montalcini]
1988 - Gertrude Elion
1989 - Harold Varmus
1991 - Erwin Neher
1991 - Bert Sakmann
1993 - Richard J. Roberts
1993 - Phillip Sharp
1994 - Alfred Gilman
1995 - Edward B. Lewis
1996- Lu RoseIacovino
TOTAL: 129!

I know that you loved Clinton and the fact is undeniable, Israel has won way much more nobel prizes than its Arab neighbours What Trump has done is a much bigger achievement than Clinton did, because there is now an embassy in Jerusalem and Jerusalem has been recognized as the capital of Israel like it or not and he signed tow peace treaties one between Israel and UAE and another one between Israel and Bahrein

 

[mongo18]

So, if we leave the analysis of the middle east alone, and just give him full credit, and say he's done the tremendousest job in the middle east ever (just ignoring the fact that he promised Israeli-Palestinian peace, and instead just further shat on the Palestinians to create this shiny diversion. Any president in history could have achieved this deal if they'd been equally willing to just toss Palestinians under the bus), is it fine that he turned unidentified federal troops on his own citizens? That they used terror tactics like snatching people off the street and hauling them off in unmarked vans? Is it cool that he teargassed peaceful protesters exercising their constitutional rights so he could stand in front of a church and pretend he's looked inside a bible? What about putting tom fucking cotton up for the supreme court, a man who strongly supports using the US military against its own citizens, giving "no quarter", is that someone who should be making judgements about inalienable rights?

Do these sound like the actions of someone who deserves a Nobel peace prize? trump's not getting a peace prize, ever. Deal with it.

 

[mongo18]

https://board.freeones.com/threads/trump-threads-and-general-behaviour.987607/post-10866822

 

[Johan]

1994 - Yaser ArafatWTF???)
[...]
1994 - Shimon Peres
1994 - Yitzhak Rabin

Interesting that you seem to be bothered by Yasser Arafat getting it but not by Shimon Peres and Yithzak Rabin... It was a SHARED price, which means either they all deserved it or none of them did but there's no way Peres and Rabin deserved it but not Arafat...

 

[Señor Sarcasmo]

Interesting that you seem to be bothered by Yasser Arafat getting it but not by Shimon Peres and Yithzak Rabin... It was a SHARED price, which means either they all deserved it or none of them did but there's no way Peres and Rabin deserved it but not Arafat...

Wasn't Arafat a terrorist?

 

[afterlights]

Weren't all three?

 

[Theopolis Q. Hossenffer]

My brother who has spend considerable time in the Middle East says there is a saying there" The Palestinians never miss a Chance to miss a Chance"

 

[Señor Sarcasmo]

Weren't all three?

Peres and Rabin were statesmen Arafat was a terrorist that embezzled almost a billion dollars from his own people.

"in 2003, a team of American accountants—hired by Arafat's own finance ministry—began examining Arafat's finances. In its conclusions, the team claimed that part of the Palestinian leader's wealth was in a secret portfolio worth close to $1 billion, with investments in companies like a Coca-Cola bottling plant in Ramallah, a Tunisian cell phone company and venture capital funds in the U.S. and the Cayman Islands. The head of the investigation stated that "although the money for the portfolio came from public funds like Palestinian taxes, virtually none of it was used for the Palestinian people; it was all controlled by Arafat. And none of these dealings were made public." An investigation conducted by the General Accounting Office reported that Arafat and the PLO held over $10 billion in assets even at the time when he was publicly claiming bankruptcy." - wiakpedia

 

[Johan]