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Re: So can I assume that New Jersey is a pretty racist state especiall against my kin
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As I have typed earlier, I haven't met a single Indian immigrant who rubbed me the wrong way . . and I've dealt with hundreds. No sir-y, they all seem to be happy and well dispositioned here, the executives, the small time merchants (who I often patronize because they appreciate my business and they're hard workers) the whole dang Klan, they're all cool.
Maybe the Indian advocacy groups/houses of worship are just better here . . you know, perhaps they project a more positive outlook on things. Good for them if that's the case.
Good post. The Indian work and learning ethic is second to none, their dedication to improving the actuality and potential of each generation is awe inspiring. For me, and most rational, happy people, that demonstrates a fundamental honesty, decency and humility that is ingrained at the deepest level of Indian culture and society.
For the haters and bigots, it's threatening, because it holds a mirror up to their own inadequacies, corruption and failings (individually and, even, societally) and they do not like what they see.
I never got a particularly racist vibe in NJ. But it is a tough, blue collar place in its collective cultural consciousness, and if you are not familiar with that kind of cultural affect, it might come off as hostile, particularly so to an immigrant (community) .....
Edsion is my home town and I am older than the author and yes the town has changed a LOT in the last 50 years.But I can tell you it is a lot less racist than it was 30 years ago.When I was a teen in the 70s the Edison cops would pull over cars with blacks in them from the neighboring town of New Brunswick and slap them around and tell them to stay the hell out of Edsion.The cops also blocked a White Castle being built here cause they said it would be a magnet for you know who.:eek:
I just love all you foreigners (that means anyone not from central jersey) talking trash about places you know little or nothing about.
You all need to keep in mind that NY/NJ is an area that all new immigrant groups hit first when they come over.When I was a kid it was the polish,Italians etc.Now its the Indians and pakistanis.And as always some of the locals resent it,but make no mistake for the most part these people are very much integrated and welcomed and accepted.
Your state is still filled with criminality and it doesn't compare with some wealthy states. It was mainly a blue collar state, because there were former automobile plants in NJ, like the chrylser plant in Newark in the 50's till the 70's as well as ship construction plants. You want to brush a nice portrait of your state but your state is not New York, it doesn't have Central Park, Times Square, Manhattan or the fifth Avenue.
http://www.walletpop.com/2010/08/05/10-worst-places-to-live/
Newark is rated as the 8th worst place to live. It says a lot about your state
Rey C: I fail to see how Indians (men or women) in any way, shape or form resemble Italians.
Have you ever been to Chile?
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Not really, but I doubt they have many East Indians in Latin or South America.
Why else did I get so many questions in NJ when people found out I was Indian and my girlfriend (who looks White) was Puerto Rican?
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That Indira Varma lady or whatever is actually MIXED with White European and Indian, usually those mixes come out looking White (katrina kaif being an example). An average North Indian (since they are the lightest) could not possibly pass for Mediterranean, maybe Latino but not any type of Southern or Western European.
See there is a whole vibe about this, in movies Hollywood has Hispanic actors playing roles of Italians at times. Most Italians (believe me, I have been up North, TONS of Italians) look like your average White person (pretty much like your average WASP).
Mexican, Italian, Peruvian are ALL nationalities so of course a White guy with German parents born in Mexico is going to be a "Mexican" but he won't look like the majority of Mexicans. A Black guy born in Italy is going to be an "Italian" but he won't look like your average Italian.
The girl you met was probably South Indian, they look more Black, North Indians look more like Middle Eastern people.
Of course that girl could easily pass for Italian or Greek, SHE IS HALF ITALIAN.
The average Italian looks like your typical White person, they don't really have darker features, the Southerners might but they have brown hair and Black hair is uncommon among them. North Indians and all Indians in general have Black hair, they could not pass for Southern European at all, I have been to Southern Europe and believe me, they can tell the difference.
As for your Mississippi part, well lets put it this way. Had that Indian boy asked a White girl out to the prom in a place like New Jersey, the men would have had to do nothing, the girl would have automatically turned him down because he is an Indian.
Why else did I get so many questions in NJ when people found out I was Indian and my girlfriend (who looks White) was Puerto Rican?
I appreciate that, Revamp. But it's really not necessary. Seeing a picture of her wouldn't help me to "judge" whether she should be considered White looking or not. That doesn't matter to me. I might give my opinion on whether I thought she was pretty or not. But ya see, whether she looks White, Latina, Black, Asian... or "foreign" confused wouldn't have anything to do with whether I think she's pretty or not.
Even when I was your age, I wasn't as "complex" as you seem to be. If you had been in the same bar or club as me back in the day, while you were scanning the crowd of girls figuring out who was sorta White looking but not too White looking, who was mixed and who was a racist... my simple little brain would just direct me to pick out a smiling pretty girl (whatever her race or ethnicity), ask her to dance, buy her a drink and either get her number or invite her to dinner that same night. If she had a decent personality, I'd ask her out again, If she didn't, I wouldn't. I'd be back to look for another girl by the time you got your list of White/Not White created.
Honest question here, Revamp. Do you think the caste system in India has contributed to your obsession with how girls look racially or ethnically? I know the castes aren't so much based on race or skin tone, but maybe it's made you sort of hyper-sensitive to things that many of us Americans don't give a second thought to. Just a thought. :dunno:
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the italian thing i will.
you havent seen my cousins, or me either.
italians look like italians, i dont even see how that can be debated.
i will say many people in new jersey who are part italian like to portray themselves as italian mostly because its "in" ever since the sopranos came to town.
but italians look like italians.
in new jersey i can pretty much tell a white persons ethnicity just by looking at them, in most people.
english/irish/scottish, greek, polish, scandinavian, germanic, they all have distinguishing physical traits.......
but its no big deal.
i told you once before revamp.
you should relax and just roll with it.