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Should there just be a "Mass shooting in the US" sticky thread?

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
I would gladly mail you my freebee. What could go wrong with everyone having a gun?

This shooting was ‘downtown’ at 4 am between some gangbangers - at least 5 people were firing away. I would fully expect more of this type of violence if everyone was armed.

Imagine how many domestic violence situations would escalate. Or road rage? Or neighborhood disputes?

Not everyone is equipped to be handling such deadly force. I am happy you can have yours and would not interfere with your right to have them.
I get so fed up reading about this shit. These thugs are in serious need of a lobotomy, But you realize that if every law abiding citizen had a gun, I don't doubt it would lead to some increased problems, but not as drastic as the reduction, if you quit giving these animals 2nd and 3rd chances. The one guy shouldn't have even been out. I know you can't force someone to arm themselves, but you saw what I was going for.
 

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
Bleeding hearts enable bleeding chests.
Criminals with guns enable bleeding chests as well.

I am no bleeding heart, but more guns doesn’t seem like answer. In this instance, some will get the pen and others got the cemetery.
 

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
I get so fed up reading about this shit. These thugs are in serious need of a lobotomy, But you realize that if every law abiding citizen had a gun, I don't doubt it would lead to some increased problems, but not as drastic as the reduction, if you quit giving these animals 2nd and 3rd chances. The one guy shouldn't have even been out. I know you can't force someone to arm themselves, but you saw what I was going for.
Certainly. This was a case of armed citizens doing what you suggest. They agree with you actually.
 

Little Red Wagon Repairman

Step in my shop and I'll fix yours too.
Criminals with guns enable bleeding chests as well.

I am no bleeding heart, but more guns doesn’t seem like answer. In this instance, some will get the pen and others got the cemetery.

I wasn't being pro-gun in my post. Keeping career criminals in cages who belong to live their lives in cages is what I was supporting.
 

Little Red Wagon Repairman

Step in my shop and I'll fix yours too.
Gang violence is not something for 3 White guys to solve. The people most affected in those neighborhoods are those who must dig in and come up with real solutions. Gang members are the sons and daughters of the community.

Gangs do not threaten me. I am White, live a good distance from territory they claim as theirs, and don't care or get in the way of their business. There is also no upside for them to start any mobilization toward the Westside unless they want to deal with a very popular and well supported LAPD and California National Guard. They come for you rolling in tanks, not bouncing around the street in hoopties.
 

Little Red Wagon Repairman

Step in my shop and I'll fix yours too.
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I wouldn't trust the average law-abiding citizen with a gun.

I don't think more is better as far as guns either. There is a lot to taking a person's life and being able to hit a moving target under stress while other innocent life is in the background and foreground is something that a class or classes won't teach in a day or entire month. Justified or unjustified, once you pull the trigger you life changes forever so be prepared for whatever comes because it will come.
 
Good to see you back.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/mass-shootings-by-country
I would think even you would admit "Being better than France doesn't give you bragging rights."

Average (Mean) Annual Death Rate per Million People from Mass Public Shootings (U.S., Canada, and Europe, 2009-2015):

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Norway and France's numbers were jacked up by 2 specific incidents - Anders Brevik, a neo Nazi from Norway who shot up a music festival racking up a huge number of kills. I believe actually he still has top record number of kills, but maybe the American guy Paddock topped it when he shot up the music festival in Las Vegas area years ago, he also racked up an unbelievable kill count, using a high rate of fire rifle from a vantage point.

In France a bunch of terrorists famously shot up a rock concert which is why France's rating is high.

Like the other guy said, rating by "spree shootings" doesn't give a good picture tbh America is basically top when it comes to gun killing which makes sense statistically and realistically. Why is that guy ashamed of this? We can find pride in gun crimes just as we can of our porn can we not? Sex and violence are so intertwined after all.
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
Like the other guy said, rating by "spree shootings" doesn't give a good picture tbh America is basically top when it comes to gun killing which makes sense statistically and realistically. Why is that guy ashamed of this? We can find pride in gun crimes just as we can of our porn can we not? Sex and violence are so intertwined after all.
Because he has a dark sense of humor, and when you get to know him, you will find he leans towards sarcasm, in is comedic offerings.
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
That's fucked up. really fucked up. Odds are the animals that did this won't go easy, and I would bet the farm, unless the fed's sneak up real quiet like, they'll die before giving up.
senseless. I'll never understand
 

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
Thankfully the shooter was a bad shot.
 
1 person dead, 2 in hospital after shooting on Clifton Hill in Niagara Falls
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/clifton-hill-shooting-1.6413093

Niagara police say one teen is dead and two others are in the hospital after a Friday morning shooting in the Clifton Hill tourist area of Niagara Falls
There's no evidence to suggest this was just a random act of violence.
I know a "mass shooting" is usually 4+ deaths, but this happened in Canada, and involved teens been targeted, so I think it counts.

All 3 victims were under 18, shot outside of an arcade in the heart of the tourist district; this isn't in some dive bar in the outskirts of town. Given that they're saying it was targeted, I'm going to say that the shooter was likely a teen as well. In fucking Canada, no less.

I'm seeing interviews with people saying they're not panicking because "it appears it was targeted". I don't know if that's hopelessly optimistic, naïve or stoic.
 
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