Election 2008

McBama or O' Cain?


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The best for U.S.A. is ... Obama!!!. :glugglug:

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Anti Americans UNITE for OBAMMA !!!

No Longer will the wealthy white man oppress us !!! :thumbsup:

Force those wealthy whities into the bread lines. Bring it all down man !!

Equality through suppression and repression ! :thumbsup:

Obama is the divide that is needed for amerika Free At Last !! :thumbsup:
 
- Bush jr.'s presidency has been a disaster
- McCain as prez would be better then Bush jr.. Even Pres. Palin would probably be better then Bush jr.
- Obama would be noticeably better then McCain

But I guarantee you that even if/when Obama wins that in 4 years it will be obvious that he was not the answer. He is only the best(?) of a mediocre lot.

People must stop getting so excited about exceptional mediocrity or that will be the best that they will ever elect and they will have no one to blame but themselves.

I swear most Americans spend more energy on their lawns then on studying those that govern them.
 

Rattrap

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Just out of curiosity...does anyone know the rules with write-in candidates?

Ron Paul, for example...is he still a 'candidate'? If not, could he still win with enough write-in votes? And in that case, could someone hypothetically be elected if they were never running to begin with?
 
Just out of curiosity...does anyone know the rules with write-in candidates?

Ron Paul, for example...is he still a 'candidate'? If not, could he still win with enough write-in votes? And in that case, could someone hypothetically be elected if they were never running to begin with?


Paul will not be on the ballot.Sure he could win with enough write ins and yes hypothetically someone not running could as well.But its just something to think about and not very realistic to think it will actually happen.Even 3rd partys like Ross Perot who was on the ballot in all 50 states have never won and I don't think a write in will ever win the Presidency.A 3rd party well organized and financed maybe someday could but that is still a long shot given the 2 party domination and their ability to make all others have a tough time.Thats why its actually not easy unless you have fair amount of money to get on the ballot in all 50 states which is pretty neccessary to be a viable candidate at all.
 

Rattrap

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Paul will not be on the ballot.Sure he could win with enough write ins and yes hypothetically someone not running could as well.But its just something to think about and not very realistic to think it will actually happen.

Oh, I'm well aware. Just wanted to check if it was entirely useless to throw my vote that way anyway. I've got a list of candidates I'm definitely not voting for, but I'm still undecided as to who I am voting for.

That said, some conversation about the VP debate that isn't in a Palin thread: I felt like they both did a pretty good job. I must admit, I was in the camp hoping for Palin to screw the pooch, but she held her ground pretty well. All in all, I can safely say I could pick simply on the basis of who I agree with more, rather than who spoke better, or who looked smarter, screwed up more, et cetera (at least looking only at this debate).

That said, I think my favorite part of the debate was Biden's answer to his support of gay marriage - that from a civil standpoint, there should be zero difference. As for the title and "traditional definition", that should be left to the faiths.
 
- Bush jr.'s presidency has been a disaster
- McCain as prez would be better then Bush jr.. Even Pres. Palin would probably be better then Bush jr.
- Obama would be noticeably better then McCain

But I guarantee you that even if/when Obama wins that in 4 years it will be obvious that he was not the answer. He is only the best(?) of a mediocre lot.

People must stop getting so excited about exceptional mediocrity or that will be the best that they will ever elect and they will have no one to blame but themselves.

I swear most Americans spend more energy on their lawns then on studying those that govern them.

McCain or Palin, it doesn't matter who, will take their cues from the advisors tied into special interest. Palin in particular is one who will need a lot of direction about whether to sign above or below the line.
 
God If Palin becomes the V.P. it will be like literally having a nut in the white house. I remember how people joked about kerry and bush saying they were nuts, now Palin she is an actual nut!!! If you were independent and sitting on the fence you aren't anymore since McCain took Palin. He ruined his chances completely. The decision also shows that John McCain isn't even running his own campaign.
 

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Obama is the very embodiment of this "little bit of safety" . .
In my estimation.

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty
to purchase a little Temporary Safety,
deserve neither Liberty nor Safety"

- Benjamin Franklin

The masses will be messes . . I suppose :(

Best of health to all in the SCOTUS, that's all I can say.
 
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Anti Americans UNITE for OBAMMA !!!

No Longer will the wealthy white man oppress us !!! :thumbsup:

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The most hated and vilified species on the face of the planet. :cool:

Just out of curiosity...does anyone know the rules with write-in candidates?

Ron Paul, for example...is he still a 'candidate'? If not, could he still win with enough write-in votes? ?

It's fascism. They are a bunch of pussies, starting with the media who vilified Paul to his death. The two most important issues of the moment - Iraq quagmire and the bailout sham - and he voted correctly (no) both times. He is the only "fit" candidate.
 
And you really think ... ?

McCain or Palin, it doesn't matter who, will take their cues from the advisors tied into special interest. Palin in particular is one who will need a lot of direction about whether to sign above or below the line.
You really think Obama and Biden don't? I'll give Biden that he's honest and forward on things (how McCain used to be more like back in 2000 before the last 6 years), but both of them serve similar, just different, "special interest" as well. Make no mistake, if that's why you're voting, then you should be joining me by abstaining for the Presidential ballot.

Not even the Libertarians put up a guy I'll vote for, he's clearly a Republican with his own ties too.

Obama is the very embodiment of this "little bit of safety" . .
In my estimation.

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty
to purchase a little Temporary Safety,
deserve neither Liberty nor Safety"

- Benjamin Franklin

The masses will be messes . . I suppose :(

Best of health to all in the SCOTUS, that's all I can say.
And you really think the Republican leadership has been remotely offering that recently?
The best "Fiscal Conservative" we've only more recent had in the Executive was ... Bill Clinton from 1995-1998!

Hell, he just recently impressed me with his Business Week interview, especially given the make-up of Congress at the time.
It wasn't just about downing Obama so his wife could run in 2012, he was actually pointing out across both lines, and himself too.
It really impressed me, "that's a leader, not a politician."

He also put to rest the non-sense that it's "de-regulation" -- no, this is private stupidity combined with too many public safety nets.
It's like we went under-board in '29-32, so now we're going overboard in '07-10.
Hell, that reminds me of Iraq, under-board in '91-96, then overboard in '98-03.
 
OBAMA OUTSPENDING MCCAIN 3 to 1

From Sept. 30 to Oct. 6, Obama spent more than $20 million on TV ads in 17 states, while McCain spent only $7.2 million in 15 states, according to Chris Cillizza, who writes “The Fix” column for The Washington Post.

“The spending edge enjoyed by Obama has been used almost exclusively to hammer McCain as both a clone of the current president and someone who is out of touch on key domestic issues — notably the economy,” Cillizza observes.

Obama’s big spending no doubt contributed to the McCain campaign’s decision last week to pull his TV ads in Michigan. Obama spent nearly $2.2 million on TV ads in Michigan in the past week, while McCain bought only $642,000 worth of TV time. The advantage was substantial even when considering the additional $1 million spent by the Republican National Committee.

According to figures obtained by Cillizza:

In Florida, Obama spent more than $2.8 million on television spots in the last week, while McCain’s outlay was $623,000.


Obama spent about $1.5 million on TV ads in North Carolina in the last week, compared to McCain’s $137,000.


In Pennsylvania, Obama disbursed more than $3 million, compared to $1.2 million in spending by McCain and $807,000 by the RNC.


McCain spent nothing in Indiana.
Among the states that Cillizza examined, only in Iowa and Minnesota did McCain have an advantage over Obama in TV spending.

But Cillizza noted that “spending by the RNC’s independent expenditure arm has kept McCain within shouting distance of Obama in several critical states including Ohio and Wisconsin.”

How much you wanna bet McCain wins? I'm gonna laugh sooooo hard when all his worshippers wake up and realize the Second Coming lost. :rofl2:
 
I'll bet my life!!! not! Who gives a fuck! Who gives a shit! Big deal... You really think this is the only reason why Obama is owning McCain's ass? It is almost time for the monkey to leave the white house. Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I'll bet my life!!! not! Who gives a fuck! Who gives a shit! Big deal... You really think this is the only reason why Obama is owning McCain's ass? It is almost time for the monkey to leave the white house. Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!

Right. Who cares. It's still gonna be funny though. ;)
 
It's like, yeah, black this, African that; we can finally see that we can be anything! Hallelujah! Give me a fucking break. There are so many succesful blacks; it is so snide on Obama's part (and all his strategists/sympathizers) to sling such stuff. Should've known it the second Michelle went on her tirade. I had to listen to some white communist speaker tonight talk about how we have finally evolved out of the 60's civil rights debacle. Paleazzzze. :sleep: What the fuck planet are you living on...:rolleyes:
 
I'll bet my life!!! not! Who gives a fuck! Who gives a shit! Big deal... You really think this is the only reason why Obama is owning McCain's ass? It is almost time for the monkey to leave the white house. Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh.. Nice edit. Let me correct my post. Who gives a shit? Who gives a fuck? there we go. GIve it up McCain is done.
 
Oh.. Nice edit. Let me correct my post. Who gives a shit? Who gives a fuck? there we go. GIve it up McCain is done.

Yeah, probably. Whoever gets it (the "job") inherits a shit-stack. But it would be sooooooo hilarious if Obama lost. I wonder if there'd be riots. :1orglaugh
 

Rattrap

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Here's an interesting website that a buddy of mine just sent me. Doesn't seem terribly scientific, but good for some discussion: http://iftheworldcouldvote.com/

One certainly has to wonder about the results for the US, though.
 
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