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Ace Boobtoucher
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Egypt’s Sisi: 1.6 Billion Muslims Antagonizing the Entire World - In unusual speech, Egyptian leader tells clerics Islam has become 'a source of anxiety, danger, killing and destruction' for humanity - 8 January 2015
Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi delivered a highly unusual and surprising speech to Islamic clerics at Cairo’s Al-Azhar University last week, and a translated version has been uploaded to the internet.
“It’s inconceivable that the thinking that we hold most sacred should cause the entire umma (multinational community of Muslim believers) to be a source of anxiety, danger, killing and destruction for the rest of the world,” Sisi declaimed. “Impossible!”
“That thinking – I am not saying ‘religion’ but ‘thinking’ – that corpus of texts and ideas that we have sacralized over the years, to the point that departing from them has become almost impossible, is antagonizing the entire world. It’s antagonizing the entire world!
“Is it possible that 1.6 billion [Muslims] should want to kill the rest of the world’s inhabitants – that is 7 billion – so that they themselves may live? Impossible!…
“I say and repeat again that we are in need of a religious revolution. You, imams, are responsible before Allah. The entire world, I say it again, the entire world is waiting for your next move…because this umma is being torn, it is being destroyed, it is being lost – and it is being lost by our own hands,” said Sisi.
Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi delivered a highly unusual and surprising speech to Islamic clerics at Cairo’s Al-Azhar University last week, and a translated version has been uploaded to the internet.
“It’s inconceivable that the thinking that we hold most sacred should cause the entire umma (multinational community of Muslim believers) to be a source of anxiety, danger, killing and destruction for the rest of the world,” Sisi declaimed. “Impossible!”
“That thinking – I am not saying ‘religion’ but ‘thinking’ – that corpus of texts and ideas that we have sacralized over the years, to the point that departing from them has become almost impossible, is antagonizing the entire world. It’s antagonizing the entire world!
“Is it possible that 1.6 billion [Muslims] should want to kill the rest of the world’s inhabitants – that is 7 billion – so that they themselves may live? Impossible!…
“I say and repeat again that we are in need of a religious revolution. You, imams, are responsible before Allah. The entire world, I say it again, the entire world is waiting for your next move…because this umma is being torn, it is being destroyed, it is being lost – and it is being lost by our own hands,” said Sisi.
That's a fact, though one our mainstream media gives little coverage to.
a sample of recent demonstrations/marches by muslims against ISIS, for example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAWOS9Ac44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IScsO5qd8iE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJnbSx_CM8I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TJy4rNNPJM
small demonstration in Dearborn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qozO3CcXk5M and Glen Beck's reaction https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM1dWVPuiAc
I'm not sure why Beck is so taken aback by the words of the Dearborn speakers. As tvstrip has pointed out there have been and are legions of muslims both in the U.S. and globally who are condemning ISIS (and radical Islam in general) just as vehemently and emphatically. But it seems this small incident was Beck's first awakening to that much greater dynamic.
I just watched the video for the first time..Blood=Boiling
Mayhem
Banned
That video? OK. I watched about half of it before I got bored. Around the 2:00 mark, some doof started shouting his love for Osama and the crowd around him all went silent. And the rest of it that I watched, when it was standard protest fare, Allahu Akbar! But when violence was mentioned, crickets.
I would also mention, as red-blooded American citizens, we should be supporting the peaceful assembly of people demanding a redress of grievences.
Now, if things turned ugly later in the vid, LMK. But seriously, I really did get bored by people chanting, as is their right to do.
The video I watched was of the two motherfuckers killing the cop that was pleading for his life.
Ace Boobtoucher
Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
You know what pisses me off; aside from the cold blooded murder and really stupid rationale for these murders? Will claiming the Israeli's were responsible.
Mayhem
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Now that's something you and I can agree on.
Will is that extra-special kind of troll that leaves you uncertain if he actually believes the sewage he spews or is just that good at being an asshole.
Why should Muslims apologize for morons that abuse their faith?
Why don't Christians apologize for KKK? Why don't Christians apologize for the killings of abortion doctors? Why do Christians still don't say sorry for corroborating with the Nazis, Why do Christians still not apologize for slavery?
Why don't Christians apologize for KKK? Why don't Christians apologize for the killings of abortion doctors? Why do Christians still don't say sorry for corroborating with the Nazis, Why do Christians still not apologize for slavery?
They do and have. And since that analogy was brought up earlier in the thread but I was too busy at work to respond I will now. None of those "Christian" organizations or individuals have engaged in tactics on the level of Islam o-fascists. The KKK as evil of a organization that it is, still is marginalized and are relegated to spreading their message through underground sources or recorded messages on an answering machine. People that murder doctors in the name of their religion are brought to trial. People that corroborated with Nazis were brought to trial. Glenn Cross aka Glenn Miller was condemned by Christians and will more than likely receive the death penalty.
Their are no terrorists being rounded up in Muslim countries so the cancer continues to spread , Get your head out of the sand and stop making excuses or weak comparisons. No group of terrorists are as well organized and reach the entire globe as extreme radical Muslims nor are any others as well funded.
SabrinaDeep
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I don't know where the Lowlands are, but they must surely be boring. Very bad and ignorant (literally, like in no-knowledge) attempt to dismiss a topic bringing a completely different up filled with factual and historical lies and seasoned with the childish attitude typical of those who defend themselves claiming that also others have done bad in the past. Just for your information, Islamic countries still largely practice slavery, enforce women infibulation, stone women who drive a car, behead those who practice a different religion, slaughter abortion doctors AND the women who aborted, kill families who send their girls to school or who let them study at home and many more amusing (like in for bored people) things.
Mayhem, you keep missing the point, or pretending to. I'm probably too stupid for you, so i'm not gonna try to explain it again. Beside, if you don't find that London video violent and scary, what else could i say to you? Ah, right....you stopped after 2 mins.
If this must be the level of the debate, here, i call myself out. Thanks to those who contributed, agreeing or not.
Ace Boobtoucher
Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
The main purveyors of the slave trade were Africans. And slavery is still prevalent in muslim countries. Shouldn't they apologize for that?
I think the word is "collaborating" but it's still worth a hearty WTF are you on about? The Catholic church played both sides of the field during WWII, but were integral in the ODESSA project and probably project paperclip as well. But there are literally thousands of stories of Catholic priests and nuns sheltering and helping Jews escape Nazi persecution.
It should be "collaborating" and not "corroborated" but I even wrote it in my post too in my eagerness to respond to him. That is one of the top 50 words in my lexicon.
To me, if Muslim leaders, clerics, groups and practitioners across the world publicly condemn the attack, whether through press releases, articles, blogs or social media, that counts as mass condemnation. A mass Muslim demonstration doesn't make it any more legit, and correct me if I'm wrong, but that is what is bothering you, right?
This is just me talking, but look at it from a practical view:
-There are already mass public demonstrations across the world against the shooting, and I think we can agree that Muslims are also taking part in them. They're not in a "Muslim section", or holding up Muslim signs/flags, but rest assured they are there.
-So if they are taking part in the demonstrations, why don't they make it clear they are Muslims? Put yourself in their shoes; would you want to draw attention to the fact that you're Muslim at these events? The vigils are for the victims and showing solidarity as a country, not as a religion. Plus at this time, the LAST thing some people want to see is anything referencing Islam. No matter how clear you want say that you're "Muslims against radical Islam, there are those who can't or won't get the message. Like I said, France isn't Canada or Australia.
So again, there are very practical reasons why there are no large scale public "Muslim" demonstrations, but that doesn't take away from the fact that they are showing their rejection of this horrible event in any way they can.
Here's my question to you. You know how witnesses are saying they heard the gunman say they were part of Al Qaeda in Yemen? Did you know that on the very same day there was a suicide bombing at a Police Academy in Yemen that killed at least 30 people? Why do you think that of these two terrorists attacks that happened on Jan 7th, one is getting worldwide attention, and the one that resulted in more than double the number killed get practically no coverage?
Suicide bomber kills at least 30 in Yemen
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/01/07/yemen-suicide-bomber/21375573/
Some of your points are well taken. But you seriously don't get why the Paris attack gets more attention? It just might have something to do with a major European city being attacked and the ramifications that it holds for other major cities in the world that are not predominately Muslim . And for the same reason that it is not reported as much when it happens in Pakistan.
Exactly my point, there's good Christians, there's bad Christians. There's bad Muslims and there's good Muslims. It has nothing to do with their religion. The bad ones say they act violently because they have to in the name of God or Allah.
It's about individual Muslims, 6 million in France, 1 million in the country where I live, 1,5 billion world wide. If they all hated us or Islam meant kill all non Muslims, we all would be dead long ago.
The OCSM who started this thread stated that the cause was Islam. And those not making a difference between Islam and terrorism are responsible for the Paris attack. I find that highly offensive. I am glad I live among people who don't think that way.
But then I am off course highly bored and ignorant. I shouldn't have been participating in this thread. My apologies for being political correct.
Now I feel bad, lol
Ace Boobtoucher
Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
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