Burning oil rig sinks, setting stage for big spill

I didn't watch the press conference, and I don't know what she asked exactly, but I see Obama's refusal to bring our troops home and end our double occupations/democracy-building :rolleyes: as the greatest mistake he will ever make.

Think of all the money that we would have now to fight this oil disaster? Think about all the military personnel and equipment we could throw at this thing? We have nothing because we're still bogged down fighting useless, endless 'wars.'

It will look incredibly cynical and political if Obama declares "Mission Accomplished" in August and brings our troops home right before elections. It's too late for him. That's a typical Bush/Cheney tactic (use the military to win an election).

This oil disaster is now the greatest natural disaster in the history of our nation. He could've seized the opportunity to rally all Federal forces to stop this leak and begin the cleanup and instead he chose to adopt a very lawyerly approach of "wait and see what facts develop" :rolleyes:

It's too late. He could've rallied the Gov't, kicked BP aside, been declared a hero and NOBODY would go against him in the coming election or on any policy item.

This could've been his knockout shot to the tea gaggers and the Conservatives.

It all could've started with him bringing home the troops from Day 1 of his administration....

Her question was totally out of nowhere. The most - the most - important thing regarding our nation right now is the devastation in the Gulf, and she goes totally off topic. I have to admit, Helen's good for a laugh though. :)



"Bushism"...:rofl: You can't see the guy cracking up behind her. That was the best part.
 
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That was from today? Seriously? That question, while appropriate in its content, does seem like an attempt to try to distract the president in front of cameras.

I wish Helen took the opportunity to launch an attack question about BP instead :mad:
 
Leave her alone, she's a senile old lady. We'll all be like that one day.
 
I knew this story was bad when I first posted it...I didn't think it would turn out this bad.:(
 
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That was from today? Seriously? That question, while appropriate in its content, does seem like an attempt to try to distract the president in front of cameras.

I wish Helen took the opportunity to launch an attack question about BP instead :mad:

Yup. Look at when it was posted. As always, the comments under it on Youtube are pretty funny as well. The way she asked it was a little rude too I thought.
 
Let's take a look at the homepages of Fixed, MSNBC and Huffingtonpost right now--5/28/2010 5:30 est.

Which one of these home pages appears to be ignoring/downplaying the oil spill, which one seems to covering it "fair and balanced" and which one is ringing the Sky-is-Falling alarm bell?

Where do you fall right now?
1. The oil spill is not as big a deal as the media is presenting it.
2. The media (broadly speaking) is covering the spill accurately.
3. The media should be really going further with activist coverage of this tragedy.

Just curious.

http://www.foxnews.com/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/

If you click on these 3 sites right now is it fair to say a reasonable person will get 3 different perspectives on this tragedy?
 
Leave her alone, she's a senile old lady. We'll all be like that one day.

She ain't senile. She's just a crotchety old liberal who gets it right every now and then. Yeah, another BP question would have been great...if you like empty, repetitive rhetoric and watching Obama dance.
 
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/8...n-looks-rough-what-if-one-hits-the-oil-spill/

Much depends on the angle at which the storm crosses the slick. In the Northern Hemisphere, hurricanes rotate counterclockwise, with the largest storm surge occurring where the winds blow in the direction the storm as a whole is traveling—that’s in front of the eye and off to the right…. So if a powerful storm approached the slick from the southwest, say, its most potent winds would push the oil forward, instead of sweeping it off to the side and out of the storm’s path. If the storm then plowed into the Gulf Coast, you’d expect an oily landfall

Maybe you Gulf staters should wait 'til October to re-shingle your roofs. Wait, do trailers have shingles?

I kid!!
 
Let's take a look at the homepages of Fixed, MSNBC and Huffingtonpost right now--5/28/2010 5:30 est.

Which one of these home pages appears to be ignoring/downplaying the oil spill, which one seems to covering it "fair and balanced" and which one is ringing the Sky-is-Falling alarm bell?

Where do you fall right now?
1. The oil spill is not as big a deal as the media is presenting it.
2. The media (broadly speaking) is covering the spill accurately.
3. The media should be really going further with activist coverage of this tragedy.

Just curious.

http://www.foxnews.com/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/

If you click on these 3 sites right now is it fair to say a reasonable person will get 3 different perspectives on this tragedy?

None point to option number 1. Fox has the story front and center, only they clearly have an Obama blame spin. And none indicate the sky is falling.

FAIL
 
Yup. Look at when it was posted. As always, the comments under it on Youtube are pretty funny as well. The way she asked it was a little rude too I thought.

Rude? I'd much rather a rude question than depend on Walter Reed to fetch me a new leg. If Uncle Sam can send kids off so they come back without arms, noses, lips or eyelids, than I think Thomas is afforded a blunt question or two.

I'm not trying to be an asshole, but this is akin to shooting the messenger.
 
None point to option number 1. Fox has the story front and center, only they clearly have an Obama blame spin. And none indicate the sky is falling.

FAIL

No, look again. Fixed has a story about a christian cross in Illinois as its lead story right now. :rolleyes: Seriously? Who really gives a shit about that right now:rolleyes:? The oil story is the 3rd story right now. Fixed has decided that the Sestak situation is more important since it appears to be in a greater font and in a more prominent position right now on their page.

You don't think the Huffington Post is going with a crisis/panic approach right now on their homepage? Doom is about to come ashore for residents of LA.

MSNBC has no mention of Sestak at all on their homepage right now. They've got a Gitmo story in a prominent position at the moment. :dunno:
 

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We're Dying Down Here!

while the man who passes for presidential material (sophomore senator of illinois) is off burning up thousands upon thousands of gallons of jet fuel each day, this week out to Califirnia to boost Brabra Boxah's senatorial campaign . . . . at the taxpayer's expense, no less ! :flame:



 
Rude? I'd much rather a rude question than depend on Walter Reed to fetch me a new leg. If Uncle Sam can send kids off so they come back without arms, noses, lips or eyelids, than I think Thomas is afforded a blunt question or two.

I'm not trying to be an asshole, but this is akin to shooting the messenger.

She has a LONG history of senile behavior. Screw Helen Thomas. Get some fresh fish in there who earned their way through college for chrissake's; she's older than dirt.



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:cool:

We can send spacecraft beyond our solar system into the heliosheath, acquire them, command them and retrieve their telemetry but we can't plug a fucking oil leak created by us (humans) a mile below our earth's surface?:confused:

Again, you'd think the next thing you'd figure out after you learned you could do something somewhere is how to fix it if something went wrong.:mad:
 
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Big Oil doesn't think that way though. BP makes $65mil a day in profit. This disaster is hardly putting a financial burden on them, sad to say.

Even though their brand name is horseshit now, they can just hire some "consultants," come up with a new name...and off they go back into obsceneprofitville....

We need to drop the hammer on them.

It's too bad that nepotism still runs deep in the Obama Administration....sigh.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/26/us/politics/26energy.html?fta=y
 
This is a big broken pipe coming out of the ocean floor spewing this oil correct? Maybe I am looking at this simplistically (all I know about plumbing is that shit flows down hill, don't bite your fingernails, and the boss is an asshole), but why the hell haven't they tried to couple another small length of the same diameter pipe equipped with a gate valve to the broken one?

With the valve open there would be minimal pressure to tend with while coupling then together, and once coupled....close the damn valve!!! :dunno:
 
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Big Oil doesn't think that way though. BP makes $65mil a day in profit. This disaster is hardly putting a financial burden on them, sad to say.

Even though their brand name is horseshit now, they can just hire some "consultants," come up with a new name...and off they go back into obsceneprofitville....

We need to drop the hammer on them.

It's too bad that nepotism still runs deep in the Obama Administration....sigh.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/26/us/politics/26energy.html?fta=y

Well...in their line of business a brand image doesn't hurt or help them. I mean other than gasoline (which is really the franchisee small guy and not per se BP) what can you buy or choose not to with BP on it?

Their stock price will continue to be influenced more by their earnings reports more than negative news associated with an oil spill.
 
BP shares plunge as plots new plan to contain spill

Their stock price will continue to be influenced more by their earnings reports more than negative news associated with an oil spill.

I suppose unless the news is they are responsible for the biggest oil spill in history and it's costing them nearly a billion dollars:o

VENICE, La.,/LONDON (Reuters) – BP faced a grim future on Tuesday as its failure to stop a Gulf of Mexico oil spill prompted a plunge in the energy giant's shares and the possibility of a criminal probe by the Obama administration gained strength.

President Barack Obama, under pressure to contain the worst oil spill in U.S. history, struggled to get on top of one of the greatest challenges of his presidency. He met co-chairs of a commission he created to investigate the disaster and was to make a midday statement in the Rose Garden.

BP fell by as much as 17 percent during London on Tuesday, wiping $23 billion off its market value, and were trading down 13 percent just before the market closed. The shares were hit by weekend news that its latest attempt to plug its blown-out seabed well had not worked, sparking fears oil could leak into the Gulf until August.

The shares have lost more than a third of their value, or about 46 billion pounds ($67 billion), since the leak started six weeks ago. The cost of dealing with the crisis now totals $990 million, and is rising.

Continued at link...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_oil_rig_leak
 
If they've only lost $1billion in the first 6 weeks....what is the simple math of how many weeks until they burn through $18bil? :dunno:

They have plenty of time to drag their feet, stonewall the gov't, threaten the press and bully the local New Orleans politicians and fishermen to keep quiet.

This is how big business operates. :dunno:

Here's a small collection of tragic photos...the worst is yet to come ecologically...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20100524/sc_ynews/ynews_sc2199
 
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