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Thank you for sharing. It's a crazy story.
Burning oil rig sinks, setting stage for big spill
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Thank you for sharing. It's a crazy story.
Do you sincerely think it was Obama's fault?
Jagger69
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Word tonight has it that this thing is out of control, has grown threefold in 2 days, BP's robots cannot cap the leaks, it will take 2-3 weeks for 30-foot containment shells to be built that can capture and draw the oil into a tanker, and 3 months to drill a relief well. In the meantime, the leak it pouring 25,000 barrels of light sweet crude into the Gulf of Mexico every day. The slick should make landfall on the Louisiana, Mississippi and Florida coast tomorrow thanks to high onshore winds and that the damage to wildlife, industry, tourism and the ecosystem could surpass $10 billion before all is said and done. There was also a report on ABC news tonight that there are fears the slick may eventually grow large enough to work it's way around Cape Sable (the tip of Florida) and be carried by the Gulf Stream up the east coast of the USA.
This is going to be an ecological disaster of unprecedented proportions I am afraid.
:eek:
Stay tuned....it will get only get worse in the ensuing days.
This is going to be an ecological disaster of unprecedented proportions I am afraid.
:eek: Stay tuned....it will get only get worse in the ensuing days.
HE1FiNEARTiST
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but whose to blame :dunno:
This type of stuff happens and will continue to happen as long as we don't take serious efforts to get energy from renewable non-polluting sources. Maybe that platform wouldn't have had to exist at all if we didn't drag our feet for so long with trying to get those alternative forms of energy.
jod0565
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PlasmaTwa2
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Goodbye a couple of fish, hello huge increase in the price of gas. :crash:
Obama needs to rescind all BP drill rights off American coasts for 20 years.
Let the law dogs go after BP for wiping out commercial fishing in the U.S. for the next 20 years.
The State of Florida is going to pick over whatever is left of BP since this disaster will basically take away 70% of Florida's tourism revenue for the next 20 years.
Why isn't BP getting together with its Big Oil brethen to cap this? Either nobody has the tech to cap oil wells, and the industry has lied to us for 30 years, or the dogs of capitalism require that BP's competitors let it burn instead of helping them fix their mistake.
What a sucky system. We all lose in the end.
Let the law dogs go after BP for wiping out commercial fishing in the U.S. for the next 20 years.
The State of Florida is going to pick over whatever is left of BP since this disaster will basically take away 70% of Florida's tourism revenue for the next 20 years.
Why isn't BP getting together with its Big Oil brethen to cap this? Either nobody has the tech to cap oil wells, and the industry has lied to us for 30 years, or the dogs of capitalism require that BP's competitors let it burn instead of helping them fix their mistake.
What a sucky system. We all lose in the end.
Jagger69
Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
You won't have any worries. The prevailing currents will likely carry the spill around the tip of Florida and into the Atlantic.
The "drill baby drill' crowd got some explaining to do after this disaster which gets worse and worse every day.We heard how drilling was so safe now that something like this just could not happen, but it did.The fisherman in the gulf waters are the ones who really are going to be screwed and BP I hear only is responsible for 75 million in damages so if anything is going to be done to compensate the people like the fisherman guess whose going to get to pay for that,us poor suckers the taxpayers.
Who writes these laws that cap BP's damages at 75 million??? The lobbyists for the oil companys of course.Capitalism run amuck everywhere ya look,oil companys,banks,investment houses etc.The foxes are guarding the hen house,no wonder the hens get eaten.
Who writes these laws that cap BP's damages at 75 million??? The lobbyists for the oil companys of course.Capitalism run amuck everywhere ya look,oil companys,banks,investment houses etc.The foxes are guarding the hen house,no wonder the hens get eaten.
Jagger69
Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
OK....the lawyers must be licking their chops on this one. BP claiming the spill is not their fault? :wtf:
Blame game has no end in sight
Pointing finger at contractors, BP seeks to distance itself from spill
By BRETT CLANTON
HOUSTON CHRONICLE
May 9, 2010, 11:58PM
While BP says it will pay to clean up the mammoth oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, the British oil giant has repeatedly placed blame elsewhere for the tragic rig accident last month that started it all.
How much longer it will be able to keep saying so, however, is another question.
The company likely will face a high legal bar in proving contractors involved in drilling the BP well were at fault and liable for damages, given protections BP agreed to in its lease contract for the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig, one industry analyst said.
Then, there's the question of how much oversight BP had over contractors during the various stages of drilling and building out the well prior to the April 20 blowout that sent the rig up in flames and killed 11 workers.
“I don't see how BP can distance itself from its responsibility associated with being the final decision-maker,” said Bill Herbert, industry analyst with Houston investment bank Simmons & Company International. “Sure, the service providers are recommending and implementing solutions, but it's BP's drilling engineers who are approving the solutions.”
Last week, in an interview with the Houston Chronicle, BP CEO Tony Hayward again sought to downplay BP's role on the rig.
“The way the industry works is that the operators are in essence the architects. They design the well. And the drilling contractors drill the well,” he said.
“And in terms of the safety and the reliability of equipment on a rig, that is absolutely the accountability of the rig contractor, regulated by the MMS.” he said, referring to the Minerals Management Service, a federal agency.
Other parties cited
It could be months before investigations yield answers about the causes of the Deepwater Horizon accident. Judges and juries could take years more to apportion blame.
But BP, knowing its financial health and efforts to promote a green image are at stake, has tried to get in front of the growing crisis — as well as remind the public that it's not the only party involved.
Switzerland-based Transocean, owner of the now-sunken Deepwater Horizon, is responsible not only for the half-billion-dollar rig but also the drilling of the well and safety equipment involved, BP says. The latter includes a large stack of seafloor shut-off valves, called a blowout preventer, which apparently failed.
BP says the blowout preventer, or BOP, should have prevented the accident.
But Transocean appears to face limited financial exposure to the incident under its contract with BP for the rig, said Robert MacKenzie, analyst with FBR Capital Markets. Transocean disclosed parts of the contract in filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
If the blowout was caused solely by something it did or didn't do, Transocean might be liable.
“However, given the multiple contributing factors to the blowout, a finding that the blowout was caused solely by an act by Transocean seems highly unlikely if not impossible,” MacKenzie said in a report Friday.
Transocean could lose some protections against liability for cleanup and economic losses if found to be “grossly negligent” in its operation of the rig. Yet, that would be a hard thing to prove, he said.
The question of BP oversight at Deepwater Horizon could also be important. Though oil companies tend not to have many employees aboard a rig, those “company men” are often very closely involved in the operation, particularly at key stages.
That would include the final steps of securing the well in preparation for temporarily abandoning it — the stage BP says was in progress at its Macondo well at the time of the blowout — said an industry expert who asked not to be named because of pending investigations.
In that stage, the company would have been ensuring that seals in the well were adequate to hold oil and natural gas in place in the reservoir, so that heavy drilling fluids could be removed and the well secured for going in again later.
If problems arose, equipment on the rig should have signaled a change in pressure, and BP should have had time to make corrections long before the blowout preventer was needed to block oil and natural gas from shooting out of the well, the expert said.
No prior problems
It remains unclear, however, whether such signals appeared and weren't heeded, didn't show at all for some reason — or if the situation spun out of control so quickly that crews couldn't respond.
Six of 126 people aboard the Deepwater Horizon were BP employees. All survived.
BP's Hayward said he was not aware of problems with the project prior to the incident, calling it a “relatively straightforward well.”
As for sorting out responsibility, he said, “The explosion is one incident. The failure of the BOP is another incident. Our focus is on both, but we need to wait for the results of the investigation to understand what happened.”
Officials with Transocean and Cameron, maker of the blowout preventer, declined comment. Officials with both companies, as well as BP and Halliburton Co., which also performed work on the well shortly before the blowout, are scheduled to testify before Congress this week about the Deepwater Horizon incident.
BP, as owner of the federal lease, is required by a 1990 oil pollution law to pay the costs of regaining control of the damaged well.
What do they mean it isn't their fault? Whose fucking rig was it???
Link is here:
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/deepwaterhorizon/6997670.html
Blame game has no end in sight
Pointing finger at contractors, BP seeks to distance itself from spill
By BRETT CLANTON
HOUSTON CHRONICLE
May 9, 2010, 11:58PM
While BP says it will pay to clean up the mammoth oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, the British oil giant has repeatedly placed blame elsewhere for the tragic rig accident last month that started it all.
How much longer it will be able to keep saying so, however, is another question.
The company likely will face a high legal bar in proving contractors involved in drilling the BP well were at fault and liable for damages, given protections BP agreed to in its lease contract for the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig, one industry analyst said.
Then, there's the question of how much oversight BP had over contractors during the various stages of drilling and building out the well prior to the April 20 blowout that sent the rig up in flames and killed 11 workers.
“I don't see how BP can distance itself from its responsibility associated with being the final decision-maker,” said Bill Herbert, industry analyst with Houston investment bank Simmons & Company International. “Sure, the service providers are recommending and implementing solutions, but it's BP's drilling engineers who are approving the solutions.”
Last week, in an interview with the Houston Chronicle, BP CEO Tony Hayward again sought to downplay BP's role on the rig.
“The way the industry works is that the operators are in essence the architects. They design the well. And the drilling contractors drill the well,” he said.
“And in terms of the safety and the reliability of equipment on a rig, that is absolutely the accountability of the rig contractor, regulated by the MMS.” he said, referring to the Minerals Management Service, a federal agency.
Other parties cited
It could be months before investigations yield answers about the causes of the Deepwater Horizon accident. Judges and juries could take years more to apportion blame.
But BP, knowing its financial health and efforts to promote a green image are at stake, has tried to get in front of the growing crisis — as well as remind the public that it's not the only party involved.
Switzerland-based Transocean, owner of the now-sunken Deepwater Horizon, is responsible not only for the half-billion-dollar rig but also the drilling of the well and safety equipment involved, BP says. The latter includes a large stack of seafloor shut-off valves, called a blowout preventer, which apparently failed.
BP says the blowout preventer, or BOP, should have prevented the accident.
But Transocean appears to face limited financial exposure to the incident under its contract with BP for the rig, said Robert MacKenzie, analyst with FBR Capital Markets. Transocean disclosed parts of the contract in filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
If the blowout was caused solely by something it did or didn't do, Transocean might be liable.
“However, given the multiple contributing factors to the blowout, a finding that the blowout was caused solely by an act by Transocean seems highly unlikely if not impossible,” MacKenzie said in a report Friday.
Transocean could lose some protections against liability for cleanup and economic losses if found to be “grossly negligent” in its operation of the rig. Yet, that would be a hard thing to prove, he said.
The question of BP oversight at Deepwater Horizon could also be important. Though oil companies tend not to have many employees aboard a rig, those “company men” are often very closely involved in the operation, particularly at key stages.
That would include the final steps of securing the well in preparation for temporarily abandoning it — the stage BP says was in progress at its Macondo well at the time of the blowout — said an industry expert who asked not to be named because of pending investigations.
In that stage, the company would have been ensuring that seals in the well were adequate to hold oil and natural gas in place in the reservoir, so that heavy drilling fluids could be removed and the well secured for going in again later.
If problems arose, equipment on the rig should have signaled a change in pressure, and BP should have had time to make corrections long before the blowout preventer was needed to block oil and natural gas from shooting out of the well, the expert said.
No prior problems
It remains unclear, however, whether such signals appeared and weren't heeded, didn't show at all for some reason — or if the situation spun out of control so quickly that crews couldn't respond.
Six of 126 people aboard the Deepwater Horizon were BP employees. All survived.
BP's Hayward said he was not aware of problems with the project prior to the incident, calling it a “relatively straightforward well.”
As for sorting out responsibility, he said, “The explosion is one incident. The failure of the BOP is another incident. Our focus is on both, but we need to wait for the results of the investigation to understand what happened.”
Officials with Transocean and Cameron, maker of the blowout preventer, declined comment. Officials with both companies, as well as BP and Halliburton Co., which also performed work on the well shortly before the blowout, are scheduled to testify before Congress this week about the Deepwater Horizon incident.
BP, as owner of the federal lease, is required by a 1990 oil pollution law to pay the costs of regaining control of the damaged well.
What do they mean it isn't their fault? Whose fucking rig was it???
Link is here:
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/deepwaterhorizon/6997670.html
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The U.S. govt should just lasso all these parties and sue them all :dunno: They each did their part in this tragedy.
Revoke all operating licenses for all of these companies immediately. Seize all of their assets currently in U.S. waters. Sell them at auction.
We need the money for when BP "decides" it has no more money for cleanup and floats the idea of a bailout
The U.S. govt should just lasso all these parties and sue them all :dunno: They each did their part in this tragedy.
Revoke all operating licenses for all of these companies immediately. Seize all of their assets currently in U.S. waters. Sell them at auction.
We need the money for when BP "decides" it has no more money for cleanup and floats the idea of a bailout
Jagger69
Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
We need the money for when BP "decides" it has no more money for cleanup and floats the idea of a bailout
Cocksuckers exploit our oil reserves (with our blessing), fuck it up BIG TIME, have no idea how to respond to the fire and ensuing spill and now want to pass the blame on to others.
They need to PAY through the nose for this....nothing they could do can make up for this monumental disaster.
Let the new Brit government bail them out if they want.
I heard these kinds of "accidents" only happen about 1/4500 (CBS, I believe). :dunno:
Either way you cut it, there goes the Gulf fishing businesses.
jod0565
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Alrighty now. Have you all heard this?:
"The U.S. Coast Guard has estimated that oil was gushing from a broken pipe on the Gulf floor at the rate of 5,000 barrels a day.
But sophisticated scientific analysis of seafloor video made available Wednesday by the oil company BP shows that the true figure is closer to 70,000 barrels a day, NPR's Richard Harris reports."
With video clip of underwater gusher:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126809525
YT clip of same:
"The U.S. Coast Guard has estimated that oil was gushing from a broken pipe on the Gulf floor at the rate of 5,000 barrels a day.
But sophisticated scientific analysis of seafloor video made available Wednesday by the oil company BP shows that the true figure is closer to 70,000 barrels a day, NPR's Richard Harris reports."
With video clip of underwater gusher:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126809525
YT clip of same:
This is a terrible thing and I do not wish this on any one or any country...
... but YOU wake up when this happens near YOUR country.
Thanks to demand for oil and relaxation of offshore drilling by US governments, the state that demands cheap oil products now have a taste of their own medicine. I remember Bush demanding drilling in Alaska and deep seas. I dispaired.
If BP are found at fault I wonder if comanies like Union Carbide will be bought to line in order to make billions of $s payout to those effected in India?
http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/campaigns/toxics/justice-for-bhopal
I am guessing not.
Or perhaps those in Iraq effect by an illegal war. Not likely.
USA - you wanted more oil, whether in Iraq or on your doorstep - and now you got it though perhaps not exactly where you wanted it. BP is driven by the crazy demand of gas guzzelers in this crazy world or ours, to raise share prices in a world that wants more wealth so we can have our nice comfy pension.
Something must give and as Truman said, "The buck stops here."
... but YOU wake up when this happens near YOUR country.
Thanks to demand for oil and relaxation of offshore drilling by US governments, the state that demands cheap oil products now have a taste of their own medicine. I remember Bush demanding drilling in Alaska and deep seas. I dispaired.
If BP are found at fault I wonder if comanies like Union Carbide will be bought to line in order to make billions of $s payout to those effected in India?
http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/campaigns/toxics/justice-for-bhopal
I am guessing not.
Or perhaps those in Iraq effect by an illegal war. Not likely.
USA - you wanted more oil, whether in Iraq or on your doorstep - and now you got it though perhaps not exactly where you wanted it. BP is driven by the crazy demand of gas guzzelers in this crazy world or ours, to raise share prices in a world that wants more wealth so we can have our nice comfy pension.
Something must give and as Truman said, "The buck stops here."
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