World Cup 2006 thread

[Calm]

It doesn't matter what he said, Zidane was after a nerve-wrecking tournament and about 115 minutes of running around when only millions around the world are watching and the most important Cup and his career are on the balance, it's no biggie, I'm sure most of us would be able to handle it, right?

 

[jumbo_jim]

The headbutt game is ace.

As for the actual headbutt, Figo was given such a bad reaction for his headbutt. We all lose it occasionally, Zidane was just unucky to lose it on th ebiggest stage of them all.

 

[jumbo_jim]

I think it will be Holland or Spain who win the Euro's. Germany will be close as will the Italians if they can get out of qualifying. France and Ukraine are not bad sides, being Scottish I have to say we will do well no matter how little I believe it.

 

[K2!]

Van Basten said that BEFORE the tournament, in fact he has been saying that since he took over.

Also, they didn't lose because of Van Der Vaart, they lost because the asshole Scolari managed to have his minions waste the ENTIRE second half rolling on the floor, especially Ricardo (cause when the goalie goes down, play has to stop), and the Portuguese basically cheated and stole the game. It would have been England Holland, and THAT would have been a match.

Fox

Van der Vaart was barely back from an injury, and it showed. You're right about Portugal (altough that's just how some team are playing nowadays so we have to handle with it. there's nothing to do about referees though (semi-final 1998, Van Hooijdonk)) and the fact that Van Basten said it before the tournament. Still it's strange to see a WC as some kind of training. In that case he should have taken Huntelaar with the team.
Results of Holland has been very good so far, but now we're waiting to see some nice play too. Van Basten has yet to prove himself (I think it's not such a good idea that a coach's first team to coac ever is the national team).

 

[Calm]

Van Basten said that BEFORE the tournament, in fact he has been saying that since he took over.

Also, they didn't lose because of Van Der Vaart, they lost because the asshole Scolari managed to have his minions waste the ENTIRE second half rolling on the floor, especially Ricardo (cause when the goalie goes down, play has to stop), and the Portuguese basically cheated and stole the game. It would have been England Holland, and THAT would have been a match.

Fox

That's a little disappointing seeing this post from you. Crying about cheating is below you.

Holland didn't really impress me, at all, to be honest, and I think van Basten is to blame.
I think Portugal deserved to go to the next round, cheated or not, I don't care.
Holland played poorly, a boring 1-0 on Serbia, barely 2-1 on Ivory Coast who was better but too inexperienced and a mega-boring 0-0 with Argentina. Their only goals were 1 against Serbia and 2 against Ivory Coast (who suffered 2 goals EVERY game).
As for the game in question, I think both teams are to blame, and the ref is not, by the way.

England Holland? Entertaining? You've got to be kidding me.
The only team that disappointed me more than Brazil was England. Like every major tournament England talked their asses off about how they have the strongest squad they've ever had, yeah, I'm sure we were all impressed in each and every snooze-fest they so kindly showed us.
If I were Fifa I'd ban England for such poor performances from the next world cup.

P.S.

I was kidding in the last sentence; I know you have a tendency not to always know when I'm kidding and when I'm serious.

 

[praf0312]

That's a little disappointing seeing this post from you. Crying about cheating is below you.

Holland didn't really impress me, at all, to be honest, and I think van Basten is to blame.
I think Portugal deserved to go to the next round, cheated or not, I don't care.
Holland played poorly, a boring 1-0 on Serbia, barely 2-1 on Ivory Coast who was better but too inexperienced and a mega-boring 0-0 with Argentina. Their only goals were 1 against Serbia and 2 against Ivory Coast (who suffered 2 goals EVERY game).
As for the game in question, I think both teams are to blame, and the ref is not, by the way.

England Holland? Entertaining? You've got to be kidding me.
The only team that disappointed me more than Brazil was England. Like every major tournament England talked their asses off about how they have the strongest squad they've ever had, yeah, I'm sure we were all impressed in each and every snooze-fest they so kindly showed us.
If I were Fifa I'd ban England for such poor performances from the next world cup.

P.S.

I was kidding in the last sentence; I know you have a tendency not to always know when I'm kidding and when I'm serious.

100% agred Calm! I think Portugal deserved to be in semi final and didnt deserve lost with that score to Germany. Even Germany being more than twice better than them. But in the final minutes of the game the team almost forgot what they were doing in the field and the goals came like a tsunami.

England was the more disappointed team in the WC with Brazil and Holland on the second place and Spanish in 4th place, I never expected a loss like that to France. The Holland deserved nothing more than they got round of 16's was too much for them.

Yeah, maybe it's "below me" but I hate how Portugal played. Similarly, I hate how Brazil played in the last world cup. I automatically lose respect for any team that has obviouslt trained to, and perfected the art of, wasting long periods of a game to hold on to a result.

Be fair and hate Germany and Italy too, both teams just did in 2006 WC what you clame to hate.

 

[Roughneck]

Ahhh, Deutschland didn't win this time!

Oh well - it was an exciting worldcup! Gave me something else to watch between hockey games


By the way: anyone seen this?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/07/13/zidane_headbutt_outrage/

 

[praf0312]

You obviously like Portugal a lot. Holland weren't that bad at all.

Yep, I do! I have two nationalities, Portuguese is the anoter one! But I didnt say that cause I like the team or because Im a Portuguese either, I just did 'cause Portugal just got to the semi once before and Scolari did it again for the country. About Scolari, nobody couldnt agree how good he is, he just managed twice in WC, once Brazil catching a 1st place and once Portugal in 4th place, nothing is more wise than numbers. Portugal got the first place in the group on 1st Round, thats a good way to be in ROund of 16. What about Holland? They got there crawling, with boring games, how could that be so good as Portugal campaing in 1st Round. At least, Holland was a poor team, they didn't disappointed me more than Brazi just 'cause I didnt expected so much for them. And I like to add to disappointment list Czech Replubic in 1st Place with England, I expected a lot of their team and their goalkeeper.

And what the hell are you talking about with Italy and Germany. Italy did not waste time in any of their games, ANY, although like most teams they did dive a few times.

GERMANY DID NOT WASTE TIME OR DIVE, they were probably the most honest and honourable and respectable team in the whole thing, it was remarkable... they were wonderful! They attacked, they never wasted time, just kept attacking even when in the lead and they soundly beat Portugal because they are a better team

Anyway, while I respect everyone's opinions, it's bizarre that you would say Italy and especially Germany, wasted game time and playacted and cheated... Italy a bit, but not the timewasting, and not as much as they are famous for... Germany never even once... not even slightly, although Ballack usually has a tendency to dive and stuff (in club games).

Fox

Sorry, you understood me wrongly, I didnt say Italy and Germany was diving all the time, but I dont distinguish (I dont know if this word is the right one) team wich is diving or putting all the players on defence to hold the score, I just said Italy and Germany and lot of others teams in this Cup when got a result play more or totally defensively to hold the score.

I dont think was Portugal's fault, it is just a strategy, dont blame them, blame the ref who couldnt do his job and add the right time to the extra minutes on 2nd half, it's his job calculate the time lost with injuries, faults and add it to the final of the half. Am I wrong? For sure I would love if Ronaldo, who is skillfull player, player more on the penalty box than watch him diving all the time trying to catch a penalty, but c'est la vie, what could I do?

Thanks for respect my opinion. Im not fighting with you, just disagrering. In fact, I like you, Calm, Darkman, 9Inch, CivicKiller, Omega ... We all spent a good time here discussing the WC. Just sad cause in a time this thread is gonna be useless.

By the way, Brazil gonna be champion in 2010 in a final against Portugal.

 

[Calm]

And I like to add to disappointment list Czech Replubic in 1st Place with England, I expected a lot of their team and their goalkeeper.


By the way, Brazil gonna be champion in 2010 in a final against Portugal.

Czech Republic disappointed?
I'm willing to bet Portugal wouldnt have made it out of the group they had.

Germany will beat Argentina in the 2010 final, by the way.

 

[praf0312]

Czech Republic disappointed?
I'm willing to bet Portugal wouldnt have made it out of the group they had.

Germany will beat Argentina in the 2010 final, by the way.

Sorry calm, but next cup isnt in Europe, Cup out of Europe is peace of cake for Brazil, heheheh

Cezch Republic was the 2nd on the FIFA Rank before the cup, I tought they would make a good capaing on this WC. I tought wrong

Everyone knows it will be Holland narrowly defeating Spain (if England don't get there haha), why even think about it

I cant wait for the next WC. England will lose for Brazil in the semi (8x0) hehehehe hyolland wont get on the semi and spain will lose for Portugal on the semi, so Brazil x Portugal on the final. Im not guessing, I know. Holland will be in Group E and will get Argentina on the Round of 16's and will lose. hehehehhe 2x1 on Extra Time.

Brazil for Hexa! (Brazil 5 x 1 Portugal).
hehehehehhee ...

Is 100% sure WC in South Africa for 2010?

 

[praf0312]

No European country has ever won outside Europe. There's a first time for everythig. 2010 will be that first time.

Maybe yes, maybe no. I wish no.

Also, yes, it's 100% for sure in South Africa... EXCEPT

In 1986, the cup was moved to Mexico because of problems in... er... was it Brazil? Anyway, I foresee there might be street violence or some kind of issue such as lack of finances or insufficient stadia that causes FIFA to take the World Cup elsewhere, perhaps in Africa, perhaps not, in 2008 or 2009.

I have no problem with South Africa as host, I just have a feeling it might not happen, I'm also dubious as to whether Brazil will really host 2014, it depends a lot upon such things as crime rates in these countries, both of which have recent turbulent histories.

Fox

I dont know... If was in Brazil, maybe it's true and problem prob was street violence, the city was Rio de Janeiro, one of most violence city in the world, also it has big stadiuns, prob that was not the problem, 'cause Rio de Janeiro has the largest Stadium in the World (The Maracanã). Rio is a beautiful town, but the crime there is ugly as hell.

A non-european team never won a cup in Europe too, except for Brazil once.

Well, the next South American Olympic Games gonna be in Brazil, should be a test for it. If Brazil host SAOG well, should do the same to WC. Prob WC its easier to host than a the south american games.

 

[Irony]

Im not quite sure what the end results were but Australia put in a large bid to be able to host the 2014 World Cup. Would be an amazing experience if it was too happen as we have state of the art facilities here that are above world class.

 

[praf0312]

Im not quite sure what the end results were but Australia put in a large bid to be able to host the 2014 World Cup. Would be an amazing experience if it was too happen as we have state of the art facilities here that are above world class.

I heard about it. I think Australia could get 2014 more easier than Brazil.

 

[pussypoppa]

Is this thread still running?

 

[pussypoppa]

because World Cup 2006 is over

 

[pussypoppa]

We should start a new thread on who should host the next world cup

 

[Calm]

We can still talk about it.

I felt really bad for the African teams at this World Cup. I think the refs screwed Ghana against Brazil after wrongfully denying them Essien, and I think Ivory Coast who could have gone a long way, had a ridiculously tough group, and still only narrowly lost to Holland and Argentina.

Fox

when the entire world was watching Argentina - Holland, I was watching Ivory Coast - Serbia, one of the best and most thrilling games in this world cup, I enjoyed it more than I did watching Argentina's 6-0.

Ivory Coast were in a deadly tough group and it was also their first time so they lack experience, they were naive, but with the talent pool they got they will without a doubt make it to the quarter final (at least) in 2010.

Too bad Cameroon didn't make it, I wanted to see what Samuel Eto'o could do in this tournament, I'm afraid he's going to be much older in the next world cup and he wont necessarily will play with all the skilled players from there.

 

[praf0312]

We can still talk about it.

I felt really bad for the African teams at this World Cup. I think the refs screwed Ghana against Brazil after wrongfully denying them Essien, and I think Ivory Coast who could have gone a long way, had a ridiculously tough group, and still only narrowly lost to Holland and Argentina.

Fox

Yep, I agree, ref was corrupted in some way to help Brazil. The 2nd goal was offside and there was a lot of smaller things in game. But was 3x0 event Ghana being helped by the ref he couldnt go through Brazil, even this lazy Brazil.