Why Obama?

The one thing that I dont think Obama is

Is a PHONY

Like Mr McCain and that cunt running mate from Asslaska

Maverick MY ASS

And another thing

The Democrats dont have enough of a majority to get anything done in either the house or senate

Just wait.....if they do get the majority by a larger margin you will see alot of changes
Some good some not so good
 
Obama taliking about redistribution of wealth. It is what it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

In that 2001 radio interview, when Obama used the term “redistribution”, he didn't mean in the constitutional context “equalized wealth,” or anything like that. He was referring to positive rights, most prominently the right to education, and also the right to a lawyer. What he was saying – and this is the irony of it – is that he was basically taking the side of the conservatives then and now against the liberals.

Furthermore, the audio clips in that video are "cherry picked". The video also draws false conclusions from what Obama says in those clips.

Sad thing is the typical "low information" voter will watch this video and draw the conclusion that Obama plans to take money from white people and give it to black people because these voters are too stupid to understand what Obama was really saying. All that intelligent sounding lawyer speak is too perplexing for their deficient intellects to comprehend. So they just read the false interpretations in the video and nod their heads like zombies while chanting, "Obama is a socialist. Obama wants to redistribute wealth. Obama is a socialist. Obama wants to redistribute wealth." The people who buy into this crap don't even know what a socialist is.
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
We will see,or not, to me its just more evidence of who this man really is.
One of you say its altered, one of you say he was talking about something else.

And , don't call me stupid over the internet, its very cowardly.
The actual names don't bother me, its just the fact of someone sitting in front of their comp. doing it, knowing that if they did it in person exactly what would happen.
the word pussy shit comes to mind.

I and many others with different pov's post here without name calling.
I'd hate to see the day when this site is loaded with trash talking punks.
 

Marlo Manson

Hello Sexy girl how your Toes doing?
I am not fond of obama, but I HATE Republicans!!! cuz they never have, nor will they ever do SHIT for poor middle class folks!!

If Elmer Fudd or Bugs Bunny were the Democratic canidate they'd get my vote!! :rolleyes:

I'd vote for a cartoon character before I would vote for a :bs: SPEWING republican!! :thefinger
 
Can the yanks in the thread tell me what they find so threatening about socialized medicine? Its very illogical, you pay more and yet live shorter lives and even more of your babies die per captia then places like Cuba. Freaking Cuba. Its a glib thing to point out but jesus more babies die per captia at child birth in the states than bloody cuba.

I dont get how free market economics works with a system that has NO free market economics in it... You cant shop around for a hosipital after getting into a deadly car crash right?

But I suppose Yanks are really fat, have babies really late and like paying more than any other western countries for care...
 
Can the yanks in the thread tell me what they find so threatening about socialized medicine? Its very illogical, you pay more and yet live shorter lives and even more of your babies die per captia then places like Cuba. Freaking Cuba. Its a glib thing to point out but jesus more babies die per captia at child birth in the states than bloody cuba.

I dont get how free market economics works with a system that has NO free market economics in it... You cant shop around for a hosipital after getting into a deadly car crash right?

But I suppose Yanks are really fat, have babies really late and like paying more than any other western countries for care...


I think it's necessary and was possible without this fiasco illicit war as were the building of new college universities and the ability to staff them and provide tuitions for years. The infrastructure is another major timebomb that is ignored.

On the redistribution of wealth, I'm still wondering why my taxes go to cutting corporate taxes, so I'm quite happy about redistribution of wealth.

Several new McCain ads show alleged business owners talking about Obama not ever having to meet a payroll. I don't know what that's like either, but know what it's like to pay my bills on time and worry about when the new ones are coming in. I don't think it's that much different, so how about a tax cut for middle class at the expense of corporate America, and corporate salaries with non bid multi year contracts to Halliburton, Blackwater, tax breaks for Exxon? Yadda, yadda, yadda.
 
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meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
I think it's necessary and was possible without this fiasco illicit war as were the building of new college universities and the ability to staff them and provide tuitions for years. The infrastructure is another major timebomb that is ignored.

On the redistribution of wealth, I'm still wondering why my taxes go to cutting corporate taxes, so I'm quite happy about redistribution of wealth.

Several new McCain ads show alleged business owners talking about Obama not ever having to meet a payroll. I don't know what that's like either, but know what it's like to pay my bills on time and worry about when the new ones are coming in. I don't think it's that much different, so how about a tax cut for middle class at the expense of corporate America, and corporate salaries with non bid multi year contracts to Halliburton, Blackwater, tax breaks for Exxon? Yadda, yadda, yadda.

Afa I can see exactly what you mean, I understand.
you would rather see more taxes on rich, more money go to middle class.
Its just that the people known as rich already pay a huge portion of the total overall % of federal tax, and the poor to lower middle class pay nothing already. 0 %.
Can't pay no less than that.
But they can get checks in the mail every year for like $5,000. And they already do, depending on maritial status and the amount of children they have.
I guess its all about expectations at this point.
I've heard Obama and Biden say there will be higher taxes for those who make over 250,000, 200,000, and 150,000.
Which is it? I don't know.
Nobody does except them at this point.
Personally I suspect the GOV under the leadership of these guys will increase taxes for those who earn much less, especially if they're single or married with no children, and give more to those who already pay very little or no federal income tax at all.
but its all speculation and expectation at this point.


Its just taxes man, they're insane these days.
If you own a house and say make 50,000 a year.
between fed tax, state tax, social security, property tax (huge), sales tax, gas tax, energy taxes, and about 10 other misclaneous taxes the GOV has made it almost impossible to survive,exist.
Will obama decrease these taxes for the true middle class?, I doubt it.
Its gotta end one way or another or almost everybody will wind up in the poorhouse, whether you work or not.
And the more who wind up in the poorhouse due to insane taxes will only mean a higher tax burden on others.........until they wind up there too.

Its funny, I can't live in the town I grew up in because i can't afford 15,000 ( for a bungalow)to 40,000 dollars a year in property tax, however half the people who live there pay nothing and are on welfare.
The whole thing is just frustrating.
 
In that 2001 radio interview, when Obama used the term “redistribution”, he didn't mean in the constitutional context “equalized wealth,” or anything like that. He was referring to positive rights, most prominently the right to education, and also the right to a lawyer. What he was saying – and this is the irony of it – is that he was basically taking the side of the conservatives then and now against the liberals.

Furthermore, the audio clips in that video are "cherry picked". The video also draws false conclusions from what Obama says in those clips.

Sad thing is the typical "low information" voter will watch this video and draw the conclusion that Obama plans to take money from white people and give it to black people because these voters are too stupid to understand what Obama was really saying. All that intelligent sounding lawyer speak is too perplexing for their deficient intellects to comprehend. So they just read the false interpretations in the video and nod their heads like zombies while chanting, "Obama is a socialist. Obama wants to redistribute wealth. Obama is a socialist. Obama wants to redistribute wealth." The people who buy into this crap don't even know what a socialist is.

Ohh pleaseee "cherry picked'' ? Are you fucking kidding me? This is the kind of shit that comes from the Obamians. He says what he says but he really did not say that. What is this the Davinci Code? Does he needs a translator to break down everything he says? Are you his official translator?

One thing I give credit to Obama is that he stands by what HE SAYS (most recently anyways) when asked about his spread the whealth comment he said he said again on the third debate and he later told a reporter that he was not sorry for saying that and he stood by it.....but then comes Joe Biden and totally denies that Obama said that and what he really meant was something else and that seems to be the whole time Obama said...but what he really meant was...A word of advice don't try to explain what Obama says leave as it is and stop trying to say that some dubious people are going "cherry picking" around and if you ever are going to run for office be more cautious on who you chose as friends now cuz it might come back and bite you in the ass.

Point is you already have made up your mind and so have I and senator Obama does not pass my background check, ideals and experience to run this country at a time of crisis..just where the heck do you all get that he knows how to handle this economy? where?? point out something big that he has done.
 
Ohh pleaseee "cherry picked'' ? Are you fucking kidding me? This is the kind of shit that comes from the Obamians. He says what he says but he really did not say that. What is this the Davinci Code? Does he needs a translator to break down everything he says? Are you his official translator?

One thing I give credit to Obama is that he stands by what HE SAYS (most recently anyways) when asked about his spread the whealth comment he said he said again on the third debate and he later told a reporter that he was not sorry for saying that and he stood by it.....but then comes Joe Biden and totally denies that Obama said that and what he really meant was something else and that seems to be the whole time Obama said...but what he really meant was...A word of advice don't try to explain what Obama says leave as it is and stop trying to say that some dubious people are going "cherry picking" around and if you ever are going to run for office be more cautious on who you chose as friends now cuz it might come back and bite you in the ass.

Point is you already have made up your mind and so have I and senator Obama does not pass my background check, ideals and experience to run this country at a time of crisis..just where the heck do you all get that he knows how to handle this economy? where?? point out something big that he has done.

Yes. Cherry-picked. I'm not fucking kidding you. The 2001 radio interview wasn't at all about what the republicans are insinuating. Listen to the entire interview. It was more of a discussion of legal practice than it was about Obama's belief system. Sorry you can't wrap your little head around that. I don't know what else to tell you.:dunno:

Also, I'd love to now what criteria you use when judging political candidates. What exactly do you include in your "background check"? What "ideals" are you referring to? What "experiences" do you feel are prerequisites a political candidate must have before one can consider him or her qualified to be president? I'm sure we'd all love to know.

I for one consider a B.A. from Columbia in political science with a specialization in international relations, a J.D. from Harvard Law (where he graduated top of his class), being the first black president of the Harvard Law review, a career as a law professer and community organizer, 8 years as a Illinois State Senator and 4 years as a U.S. Senator to be enough of an indication that he is intelligent enough and experienced enough to make the decisions that a president needs to make. He has also managed to run a fantastic campaign (even right-wing pundits admit that).

Obama has managed to stay steady and honorable throughout what has been one of the nastiest campaigns in history. McCain on the other hand, with his tactics of fear-mongering and race-baiting, cannot say the same thing.
 
I'm a simple man, who has simple pleasures, so why shouldnt my answer to this question be, like me, simplistic........

Why Obama?

Why not? :dunno:
 
sigh..like the democratic led majority in Congress that went along with anything he put in front of them...like the war in Iraq, patriot act, letting the ban on offshore drilling expired, the anti suing phone companies for wiretapping, among a few of many times...wait was Barack part of this Congress? yep for about two years, but you all seem to have alzheimer when it comes to include "oh Glorious Obama", you all never seem to find any fault on the guy or dissagree with anything he says and contradicts himself and that's what's scary about the guy and his supporters and to me that smells like bullshit. So what if he becomes president and fucks up, no one is going to call him on it?

I don't like the direction a Barrack presidency and his supermajority Congress is going to take this country to, but like I stated before goverment does not run my life so I survived W two terms I sure can survived anything B.O. throws this way if he wins.

And out of all that jibberish, you still failed to answer the question.
 

Facetious

Moderated
Interesting how the Obama campaign has outspent McCain by an approx. ratio of 4 : 1 also, Obama has the media on his side, and we have a 3 point differential. Will obama essentially buy this election with the infusion of additional foreign campaign funds ?

4 to 1 !! and it's still within margin of error ? ! !
 

Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
^
Which poll are you referring to, F? CNN's poll has a 7-point differential.

That said, anyone who thinks this race is a lock for Obama had better wake up. Remember that a lot of his supporters are young and voting percentages amongst the young historically are abyssmal. If the people who cheer at his rallies don't show up at the polls....
 
Well all know why this election might be close or even (knightmare of knightmares lol) a win for McCain.
 
Here's more shit to throw at the wall from Mrs. Palin....

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/29/campaign.wrap/index.html

Desperate times most certainly call for desperate measures and they are pulling out all the stops as we roll into the final week.

If they didn't waste all that money on a total BS campaign, they could have donated that to about 2 days toward victory in the war in Iraq. :dunno:

Well all know why this election might be close or even (knightmare of knightmares lol) a win for McCain.

Some of those who said they will vote for a black but don't are going to be balanced by those who said they wouldn't but do.

I guess they prepaid for all the trash commercials so have to air them.
 
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Interesting how the Obama campaign has outspent McCain by an approx. ratio of 4 : 1 also, Obama has the media on his side, and we have a 3 point differential. Will obama essentially buy this election with the infusion of additional foreign campaign funds ?

4 to 1 !! and it's still within margin of error ? ! !



And get ready for channel Obama's 30 minute mind control tonight as well.

"We will take money from rich people and give it all to you with skittles and warm milk and fuzzy bunnies.. these aren't the droids you're looking for.. vote for me.."

Don't forget to wrap the tin foil around your head, shiny side out.




My parents always told me many moons ago, you are the company you keep and boy does Obama keep dangerous company.
 
Yeah, I have this overwhelming urge to watch it and don't know why. Thanks for the quote it helps make the good fight!

But in my heart I know McCain / Palin has the real insight here, real truth despite what I see on CNN, MSNBC, ABC or read in the Washington Post, The New York Times.

I just can't fight it. I'm starting to give in.
 
And out of all that jibberish, you still failed to answer the question.


Well I guess you don't have a problem with the rest of the Congress members that are democrats that also went along with 90% of the time with Bush who was clearly pulling their strings also.

Well it seems like I need a little more info from you in order to give you an answer, which doesn't matter anyways to you or any of the B.O. worshippers.
What did McCain really voted with Bush 90% of the time and if it did passed into law how many of the democrats (that are already proposing a bail out packet of food stamps and extended unmeployment benefits, etc) who will work with Obama if he does become president voted also with McCain?
 
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