Why does the KKK still exist?

Will E Worm

Conspiracy...
Will E,I have to point out that the vast majority (not all anymore) but still the vast majority of KKK/neo-nazi type hate groups are comprised of people who are affilaited with protestant based religions.

That's a myth. I watched the Secret History of the Klan and some pray to Odin, believe it or not.
 
That's a myth. I watched the Secret History of the Klan and some pray to Odin, believe it or not.


I don't see how Odin has anything to do with it lol.He's a norse (protestants later) pagan god.If you watched the secret history of the klan you know catholics,blacks, jews were all on their list as people that were not equal in their eyes.

And this idea that minorities and whites and racist feelings are equal is nonsense.In order to have systemic racism you need the power to make that a reality,minorities do not and have not ever been in such a position to systemically discriminate,big difference.Whites were never ensalved ,lynched,discriminated against systematically etc.Sorry I don't see groups that rose up in the black communitys like the panthers(and that has only been relatively recently) as anything nearly the same thing.Those groups are understandable responses to what these people faced.And the violence has overwhelmingly been a one way street historically.Anyone who takes an honest look at the history of such knows these things if they are willing to see the truth.We have made a lot of progress as indicated by how much smaller the groups like the klan and others are compared to what they once were,but still have long way to go.
 
They still exist for the same reason the Black Panthers still exist and the same reason La Razza exists. I find it amusing when minorities want to bring up the klan, but refuse to point the finger at their own racist groups.
Sorry to break it to you, but La Raza isn't a racist organization. When I was in college I was the secretary of the Raza club, and I can tell you that the reason why that organization exists is to promote hispanic culture. We weren't a big club (16 members), but we had 2 white members, 2 asians, and 1 black member who joined because they wanted to learn about Latin culture. There was nothing in our agenda that promoted hate for races other than ours.

The only way you could consider La Raza racist is if you think that promoting a culture other than the white Anglo-Saxon race is a racist activity. :2 cents:
That's a myth. I watched the Secret History of the Klan and some pray to Odin, believe it or not.

Actually, they pray to Wotan, the same pagan Germanic god that Hitler prayed to.
 
The only way you could consider La Raza racist is if you think that promoting a culture other than the white Anglo-Saxon race is a racist activity. :2 cents:


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Promoting a singular race in my eyes is racist, when does it end...in regards to promoting a cingular race?? Is that one race going to say, "Ok, we are where we want to be," so lets stop??? No, that singular race is going to keep the promotion going.
 

Will E Worm

Conspiracy...
"I could never understand ethnic or national pride, because to me pride should be reserved for something you achieve or attain on your own -- not something that happens by accident at birth." George Carlin

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ChefChiTown

The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
We are all human at the end of the day no matter what race we are, I have many friends of all races and I don't see them any different from me at all.

Not to single you out, but that comment right there made me want to bring something up. You do see your friends of a different race as being different than you. If you didn't, you wouldn't even acknowledge that you had friends of "different races". You would just refer to them as friends, regardless of their race or skin color.

The point I wanted to make is this...

Everybody is different.

Black people, white people, Asian people, Mexican people...we're all different. Every race of people has their own individual culture that has been passed down from generation to generation, father to son, mother to daughter. Culturally, we are all extremely different and unique in our own way. We talk differently, we eat different foods, we wear different clothes, we listen to different music, we are different. If you can't see the differences, then you are in complete denial of reality. The thing that seperates racists from everyone else is the way that they choose to acknowledge those differences.

Non-racist people will acknowledge the difference of skin color and/or race and leave it at that. They will also acknowledge the differences in culture, but accept them as being no different as human beings. They won't consider people of a different race to be inferior to their own respective race and treat everyone equally, as skin color is nothing more than that...skin color.

Racist people will acknowledge the difference of skin color and/or race and, out of fear and ignorance, denounce the differences as being inferior to their own race.

So, once again...we are all human beings, but we are all different. Our differences aren't what seperate us though. It's the way we choose to acknowledge those differences that's tears us apart.
 

Violator79

Take a Hit, Spunker!
That's a myth. I watched the Secret History of the Klan.

I've seen that a couple times. The one guy, C. Edward Foster, he's from a town not too far from me.
 
Etymology:
alteration of earlier neger, from Middle French negre, from Spanish or Portuguese negro, from negro black, from Latin niger

In my cultural anthropology classe, few years ago, i learned what was the original meaning and the historical context in which the word ******** appeared.

When the esclavagists were capturing slaves to be took off Africa to the *New World", they were using the word ******** for those who were fighting and defending themselves in organised forces.

So, at origins, the *******s* were those who we're resisting the domination of the white esclavagists. Its the racist, white, definition which was coined in dictonnaries but not the *resistant* part of the definition as the *******s* were the africans refusing the white domination.

Yet, even if there is a *noble* sense linked with the word ********, it have been totally evacuated from the current usage of the word. Hence, back then, the black slaves were proud to be a ********...

That *positive* meaning of ******** is no longer possible to be worded with ********. The word kept only the meaning it had for esclavagists.


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That said, i have no clue why the KKK still exists. That organisation is criminalised in many countries (like in Canada, by example) and should be -in my opinion - be listed, along Neo-Nazis, the Mafia or Al Quaida (spelling?) as criminal organisations.

Arent they threatening life of other citizens? Yes. Even if you held in high value the freedom of speech and freedom of religion, beleifs rooting within those organisations are life threatening and should'nt be tolerated.
 

Violator79

Take a Hit, Spunker!
This is a quote from George Carlin and it says the truth:

"Their only words. It's the context that counts. It's the user. It's the intention behind the words that makes them good or bad. The words are completely neutral. The words are innocent. I get tired of people talking about bad words and bad language. Bullshit! It's the context that makes them good or bad. The context. That makes them good or bad.

For instance, you take the word "******." There is absolutely nothing wrong with the word "******" in and of itself. It's the racist asshole who's using it that you ought to be concerned about. We don't mind when Richard Pryer or Eddie Murphy say it. Why? Because we know their not racist. Their ******s! Context. Context. We don't mind their context because we know their black. Hey, I know I'm whitey, the blue-eyed devil, paddy-o, fay gray boy, honkey, mother-fucker myself. Don't bother my ass. Their only words. You can't be afraid of words that speak the truth, even if it's an unpleasant truth, like the fact that there's a bigot and a racist in every living room on every street corner in this country."
 
There's billions of people in the world, and a few here and there are in groups like the kkk. But i don't think there's many in the kkk left.
 
For the same reason the Black Panthers are still around. And the same reason the Neo-Nazis are still around. There will always be ignorant people in the world who view themselves and people like them as superior to all others.
 
There might be a psychological common trait which makes someone embrassing a *we are superior* group philosophy or religion. As much there is psychological motives that makes human the need to be part of a group, of a larger entity.

That's why nationalism and racism still exists, in my opinion. Also why team sports are so popular.

There is a gap at being proud to be part of a community and considering that community superior regarding others.
 

Facetious

Moderated
Racism is alive because of double standardized activism.
I mentioned
democratic senator Byrd
, a former KKK "Exalted Cyclops", according to Wiki , but I guess that he gets a pass. :D

How about University Of Santa Cruz Chancellor - President Angela Davis a Blk Panther associate / murder accomplice, member of the Communist Party usa, among about a dozen other things ? This woman employs a curriculum of which makes me wonder if the thread author, himself, had attended this school.

Racism is good for the business of racketeering. For why would anybody in "the "business" want it to end ? :dunno: :helpme::2 cents::o
 
good one Becks.

Also, Dawn, what you said is true.

As Chef said, everyone is different. Every single person possesses unique characteristics that are different from everyone else. Because of the way that evolution has developed our brains, people have a tendency to quantify things, to reduce our scope of consideration/thinking to make things simpler and more manageable. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, it allows us to focus and problem solve. But it also creates problems, and we can't help it, that's just how human beings are.

The simplest way would be to reduce everything down to one factor. Everything is the same. And everything does have common factors. But we know that isn't truth, because everything is also different. These two ideas contradict each other. Our whole world view is constantly being contradicted which is why people have feelings and emotions.

So the simplest and most convenient (from our thinking and feelings) way would be to reduce everything down to a factor of two. US and THEM, GOOD and BAD. that's where all "ist's" and "ism's" come from.

Everyone has problems, some of us have problems that we can't deal with. It's very comforting to know that you belong to US, the GOOD guys, and that BAD things are not your fault, they are the fault of THEM. That sums it up in a nutshell what the KKK (and many other) are all about.

Of course that way of thinking is the cause of hate, war, death and suffering. That way of thinking is not good for humanity. We need to come up with some other way to reconcile our contradictions.
 
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