Vegans

[~~whimsy~~]

I knew of this one vegan who will not eat skittles unless it is a special bag that does not contain some kind of ingredient that vegans do not want.

I find once you can't enjoy a fine bag of sweet, savory skittles that lifestyle has gots to go.

 

[ChefChiTown]

I just wanted to know what they ate. I wanna ask a girl out and she's vegan. I might need to hit up dirk for some recipes.

I guess I could have Google'd it. But what fun would that be?

Read this...

http://www.americanvegan.org/vegan.htm

I just find this part to be funny though:

Reasons for Veganism:
An equitable, ethical relationship between human and other living creature

Ethical relationship? You mean the kinds of ethics we used when we decided to destroy hundreds and thousands of animals' homes to build houses, apartment buildings, condos, roads and mini malls? All of which are things that vegans willingly utilize? In fact, I'm willing to be that a lot of vegans are looking at this website while they're sitting in a Starbucks, so they can utilize their free WiFi connection. This is about ethics? No. It's a personal choice, but let's not bring ethics into this.

If veganism was about ethics, than vegans would be living in straw huts in the middle of nowhere, so they could be as far away from animal life as possible, doing their best to live peacefully with the animals. Instead, they all live just like us. And, no matter how vegan people think they're being, they're still contributing to the destruction of animals and their habitats.

For instance...

Beyond the Dinner Plate...

Animals provide us with much more than food, including the bone china we serve it on! In fact, about 45% of each food animal is actually used to make products other than food. Many of these products are part of our every day lives.

Around the house: From the paint and wallpaper on the walls to the linoleum and carpet on the floors, we’re literally surrounded by items that include products from animals. Animal products are used to make the plywood and drywall used in buildings and in the insulation that keeps them warm. Refrigerators and air conditioners use freon, a cooling agent that contains a derivative from animal fat. Egg whites are used in ceramic tile and catalase enzyme is used to make foam rubber. Laundry detergents and fabric softeners contain animal products as do many disinfectants, household cleaners and polishes. Animals even give us candles and the matches to light them with. Just as feather pillows and wool blankets help us sleep better, the many products animals provide add comfort to our lives.

Getting us there: Whether we walk, bike, drive or fly, animal products help to get us where we are going. The asphalt on roads and walkways, the concrete blocks used to build bridges, even the steel in trains and planes are made using animal products. Animals also play a part in all sorts of mechanical items. For example, fatty acids and proteins are used to make lubricants and fluids. Glycerol is in brake fluid and anti-freeze while stearic acid is used to help tires hold their shape and improve their wear.

http://www.ofac.org/issues/animals_everyday.php

Or is the act of avoiding all of those things just unreasonable to vegans? :dunno: I don't get it.

 

[STDiva]

I knew of this one vegan who will not eat skittles unless it is a special bag that does not contain some kind of ingredient that vegans do not want.

I find once you can't enjoy a fine bag of sweet, savory skittles that lifestyle has gots to go.

There is a red colouring in certain foods called cochineal. It comes from beetles. I know my friend won't eat any red dye coloured candy/food either. Strange.

Funny story. I used to cater big events here in Windsor, and we held a luncheon for The Humane Society. It was an all vegetarian menu, but the chef who was running it, put chicken broth in all the soups. LOL.

Read this...

http://www.americanvegan.org/vegan.htm

I just find this part to be funny though:



Ethical relationship? You mean the kinds of ethics we used when we decided to destroy hundreds and thousands of animals' homes to build houses, apartment buildings, condos, roads and mini malls? All of which are things that vegans willingly utilize? In fact, I'm willing to be that a lot of vegans are looking at this website while they're sitting in a Starbucks, so they can utilize their free WiFi connection. This is about ethics? No. It's a personal choice, but let's not bring ethics into this.

If veganism was about ethics, than vegans would be living in straw huts in the middle of nowhere, so they could be as far away from animal life as possible, doing their best to live peacefully with the animals. Instead, they all live just like us. And, no matter how vegan people think they're being, they're still contributing to the destruction of animals and their habitats.

For instance...



http://www.ofac.org/issues/animals_everyday.php

Or is the act of avoiding all of those things just unreasonable to vegans? :dunno: I don't get it.

I don't want to stereotype all vegans/vegetarians or anything, but it seems pretty trendy to be "animal friendly" lately. I have a feeling a large majority of them will look back on their lives and say "wtf was I thinking" as they bite into a medium rare 12oz steak. I notice it with straight edge people as well. My friend was straight edge all through highschool and college, now all he does he get shitfaced and sniff coke. Cool guy.

 

[calpoon]

Read this...

You may be surprised to know that there are millions of vegans that don't drive cars. There are also millions of them that don't live in homes constructed from animal by-products. Some of them don't even live in man made dwellings at all.

The entire world is not the USA. Maybe you need to check your own closed mindedness.

But in America there are lots of people that would wish to go without these things. Doesn't have anything to do with diet or "lifestyle", I'd love to go live in the woods and build my own log cabin and grow my own food, but that is against the law unless you have the money to be able to buy these things. And prison is totally not vegan.

 

[Will E Worm]

 

[lurkingdirk]

Oh for the love of Odin's great Ravin. Did you just make a pro-evolution point in order to be contradictory?

 

[~~whimsy~~]

There is a red colouring in certain foods called cochineal. It comes from beetles. I know my friend won't eat any red dye coloured candy/food either. Strange.

Funny story. I used to cater big events here in Windsor, and we held a luncheon for The Humane Society. It was an all vegetarian menu, but the chef who was running it, put chicken broth in all the soups. LOL.

:1orglaugh

That's just hilarious in another person's point of view bad way.

I remember I had this one girlfriend who was a vegetarian basically. She ate meats maybe once a month. Well, she loved frogs, so I asked her one day: When those frogs die, will you make me frog legs for dinner?

 

[Will E Worm]

Oh for the love of Odin's great Ravin. Did you just make a pro-evolution point in order to be contradictory?

No, but we can and should eat meat.

Eating just vegetables is not healthy or natural.

 

[ChefChiTown]

You may be surprised to know that there are millions of vegans that don't drive cars. There are also millions of them that don't live in homes constructed from animal by-products. Some of them don't even live in man made dwellings at all.

The entire world is not the USA. Maybe you need to check your own closed mindedness.

Maybe you need a reality check. Where exactly are these millions of vegans that don't drive cars? Where exactly are these millions of vegans that don't live in homes that have been constructed with the assistance of animal product? Seriously, show me these huuuuuge communities that exist, which vegans have a completely animal-free life. Are they just sparsely scattered throughout the main population, because I've never seen a vegan house in these parts.

Just because people in third world countries don't have access to meats and have no other choice to live in huts made of straw and mud, it doesn't constitute them as vegans.

:2 cents:

FYI - I'm well aware that there are vegans who stick to their convictions and actually do everything they can to live an animal-free life. But, they are in the huge minority of people, even within the vegan community itself.

But in America there are lots of people that would wish to go without these things. Doesn't have anything to do with diet or "lifestyle", I'd love to go live in the woods and build my own log cabin and grow my own food, but that is against the law unless you have the money to be able to buy these things. And prison is totally not vegan.

So, people with these die hard pro-animal lifestyles draw the line at money? They'll live within their so-called beliefs and convictions, just as long as they can afford it? HA...pleeeeease.

 

[calpoon]

So according to you chef, people should be extreme fanatics about their beliefs even if it means abandoning all of their possessions, their homes, their friends and family and putting their own safety and life at risk, as well as everyone else's, so that they have no compromises or contradictions, or else they should not have any convictions about them at all.

Nice to know that you are the world's first perfect person that has never committed any hypocrisy and thus are qualified to condemn everyone else.

And Just to name one group of people, they are called Jainists. There are ten million of them, and while not all of them are vegan (some use dairy), they all follow the criteria that I mentioned before.

Maybe vegans aren't perfect people, but they actually try to live their lives according to their beliefs of refraining from harm and respecting life, as opposed to the majority of people on here that don't give a shit.

I don't see how people have any grounds to criticize them for not doing better to care for animals when they don't do a goddamn thing themselves. I'd like to see you do better.

 

[gunslingingbird]

I've been subjected to vegan food before. Morrisey, Fiona Apple, and The Pretenders forbid any kind of "carcass" to be served while they're in the building. When I've worked their shows and I've eaten in catering, as opposed to going to the Popeye's around the corner from the Fillmore, I've invariably gotten sick. They have this shit called mock chicken that tastes like salty kitty litter. The eggless egg Salad wasn't that bad; it tasted a little like Thanksgiving stuffing. The Seitan meat was fucking gnarly. Anyway, that's been at work, and it's been vegan. Vegetarian food I'm rather fond of, so long as it doesn't include tofu. If I wanted to eat polymers I would eat styrofoam.

 

[sporty_carr]

There is a red colouring in certain foods called cochineal. It comes from beetles. I know my friend won't eat any red dye coloured candy/food either. Strange.

GTFO! Vegans won't kill bugs either? What if they have a cockroach in their house or something? They just look at it and say, "aw, isn't he cute?" Fuck that shit........I turn bugs into grease spots on the floor.

 

[KimoraKlein]

I've been subjected to vegan food before. Morrisey, Fiona Apple, and The Pretenders forbid any kind of "carcass" to be served while they're in the building. When I've worked their shows and I've eaten in catering, as opposed to going to the Popeye's around the corner from the Fillmore, I've invariably gotten sick. They have this shit called mock chicken that tastes like salty kitty litter. The eggless egg Salad wasn't that bad; it tasted a little like Thanksgiving stuffing. The Seitan meat was fucking gnarly. Anyway, that's been at work, and it's been vegan. Vegetarian food I'm rather fond of, so long as it doesn't include tofu. If I wanted to eat polymers I would eat styrofoam.

Not all vegan food is gross. I usually try to avoid "imitation" animal products. I mean, I don't miss meat or eggs at all, so I just cook things that happen to be vegan. I made delicious apple scones the other day. The only thing I had to substitute was margarine for butter. My entire meat-eating family ate them.

And I'm perfectly fine with other people eating rare steak in front of me -- just as long as I'm not eating it, it's all good.

 

[KimoraKlein]

GTFO! Vegans won't kill bugs either? What if they have a cockroach in their house or something? They just look at it and say, "aw, isn't he cute?" Fuck that shit........I turn bugs into grease spots on the floor.

Depends on the person? Roaches are gross, and living in Miami, I could never count how many mosquitos and fruit flies I've whacked lol.

 

[KimoraKlein]

I don't want to stereotype all vegans/vegetarians or anything, but it seems pretty trendy to be "animal friendly" lately. I have a feeling a large majority of them will look back on their lives and say "wtf was I thinking" as they bite into a medium rare 12oz steak. I notice it with straight edge people as well. My friend was straight edge all through highschool and college, now all he does he get shitfaced and sniff coke. Cool guy.

Thanks for not stereotyping all vegans as cow-huggers like Chef is doing. I'm not an animal fanatic. I have a leather purse. I just don't wanna eat it. My DIET is vegan.

And I drink like a fishhhhh. :]

 

[LukeEl]

I have friends that are Vegans and I have been a vegetarian since I was a kid of 12. The reason being was that when I ate meat I actually got sick and severe stomach cramps to the point were I had to be hospitalized, which turned out to be a form gastritus, and it wasn't an allergy just my body saying if you eat meat your going to pay for it in pain. So it dawned on me avoid trips to the ER and just eat vegetarian.

 

[KimoraKlein]

I have friends that are Vegans and I have been a vegetarian since I was a kid of 12. The reason being was that when I ate meat I actually got sick and severe stomach cramps to the point were I had to be hospitalized, which turned out to be a form gastritus, and it wasn't an allergy just my body saying if you eat meat your going to pay for it in pain. So it dawned on me avoid trips to the ER and just eat vegetarian.

That's terrible, but great that you figured out a solution to it.

Again, thanks for adding to the post and further proving that stereotyping all vegetarians and vegans as animal rights-obsessive.

 

[gunslingingbird]

Thanks for not stereotyping all vegans as cow-huggers like Chef is doing. I'm not an animal fanatic. I have a leather purse. I just don't wanna eat it. My DIET is vegan.

Isn't that what different vegan classes are? I've heard people refer to themselves as a class 1 or class 2 vegan. Care to elaborate on that?

 

[calpoon]

Isn't that what different vegan classes are? I've heard people refer to themselves as a class 1 or class 2 vegan. Care to elaborate on that?

Those don't really exist. They were probably joking, or just dumbasses.

If you don't eat meat, but you don't care about animal suffering either, then you aren't a vegan, you're just a picky eater.

so-called vegetarians are idiots because they don't care about animal suffering and they also eat things that aren't vegetables.

 

[tjones80]

Those don't really exist. They were probably joking, or just dumbasses.

If you don't eat meat, but you don't care about animal suffering either, then you aren't a vegan, you're just a picky eater.

so-called vegetarians are idiots because they don't care about animal suffering and they also eat things that aren't vegetables.

Huh?:dunno: