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Rush Limbaugh calls Georgetown student a 'slut'

Jane Burgess

Official Checked Star Member
I would like to clarify that I don't think being on the pill makes anyone a slut. Like I said before, I think everyone should pay for their own birth control. It has nothing to do with politics or religion on my part. I just feel that if you want to have sex, you need to be responsible enough to pay for your own birth control. Period. This debate has been going on for a long time, way before Limbaugh said what he said.
 

While I'm not condoning what Maher said, the difference is that Sandra Fluke is a private citizen-a student who was asking for an opportunity to speak on behalf of a fellow student and women in general about personal medical needs. Sandra Fluke didn’t attack anyone. On the other hand, Palin is a very powerful public figure and political predator well-known for her verbal political attacks. When Limbaugh called Sandra Fluke a slut and a prostitute he was bullying a powerless innocent private citizen but when Maher called Palin a cunt he was bullying a very powerful bully.
 

xfire

New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
Because I like to be fair and not wrongly characterize anyone or anything I went back and re-read the article in the original post of this thread. Let's recap-

"Slut" was how Rush Limbaugh described birth control activist Sandra Fluke.

On his nationally syndicated show, Limbaugh made a "kissing noise with his lips," ABC News reported, and said of Obama, "What a great guy. ... What is she 30 years old?"

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi called on Limbaugh to apologize for his comments. That apparently just spurred him on. Thursday on his nationally syndicated show he said: "So Miss Fluke, if we are going to ... pay for you to have sex, we want something for it. We want you to post the videos online so we can all watch."

In her "Today" appearance, Fluke said comments such as Limbaugh's were "an attempt to silence me, to silence all of us from speaking about the healthcare that we need."

And, from Sandra Fluke's testimony- http://www.buzzfeed.com/boxofficebuz/transcript-of-testimony-by-sandra-fluke-48z2
“Without insurance coverage, contraception, as you know, can cost a woman over $3,000 during law school. For a lot of students who, like me, are on public interest scholarships, that’s practically an entire summer’s salary. 40% of the female students at Georgetown Law reported to us that they struggle financially as a result of this policy.

“One told us about how embarrassed and just powerless she felt when she was standing at the pharmacy counter and learned for the first time that contraception was not covered on her insurance and she had to turn and walk away because she couldn’t afford that prescription. Women like her have no choice but to go without contraception.

“Just last week, a married female student told me that she had to stop using contraception because she and her husband just couldn’t fit it into their budget anymore. Women employed in low-wage jobs without contraceptive coverage face the same choice. And some might respond that contraception is accessible in lots of other ways. Unfortunately, that’s just not true. Women’s health clinic provide a vital medical service, but as the Guttmacher Institute has definitely documented, these clinics are unable to meet the crushing demand for these services. Clinics are closing, and women are being forced to go without the medical care they need.

“How can Congress consider the [Rep. Jeff] Fortenberry (R-Neb.), [Sen. Marco] Rubio (R-Fla.) and [Sen. Roy] Blunt (R-Mo.) legislation to allow even more employers and institutions to refuse contraception coverage and then respond that the non-profit clinics should step up to take care of the resulting medical crisis, particularly when so many legislators are attempting to de-fund those very same clinics? These denial of contraceptive coverage impact real people. In the worst cases, women who need these medications for other medical conditions suffer very dire consequences.

“A friend of mine, for example, has polycystic ovarian syndrome, and she has to take prescription birth control to stop cysts from growing on her ovaries. Her prescription is technically covered by Georgetown’s insurance because it’s not intended to prevent pregnancy.
“Unfortunately, under many religious institutions and insurance plans, it wouldn’t be. There would be no exception for other medical needs. And under Sen. Blunt’s amendment, Sen. Rubio’s bill or Rep. Fortenberry’s bill there’s no requirement that such an exception be made for these medical needs.

“When this exception does exist, these exceptions don’t accomplish their well-intended goals because when you let university administrators or other employers rather than women and their doctors dictate whose medical needs are legitimate and whose are not, women’s health takes a back seat to a bureaucracy focused on policing her body.

“In 65% of the cases at our school, our female students were interrogated by insurance representatives and university medical staff about why they needed prescription and whether they were lying about their symptoms. For my friend and 20% of the women in her situation, she never got the insurance company to cover her prescription. Despite verifications of her illness from her doctor, her claim was denied repeatedly on the assumption that she really wanted birth control to prevent pregnancy. She’s gay. So clearly polycystic ovarian syndrome was a much more urgent concern than accidental pregnancy for her.

After months paying over $100 out-of-pocket, she just couldn’t afford her medication anymore, and she had to stop taking it. I learned about all of this when I walked out of a test and got a message from her that in the middle of the night in her final exam period she’d been in the emergency room. She’d been there all night in just terrible, excruciating pain. She wrote to me, ‘It was so painful I’d woke up thinking I’ve been shot. Without her taking the birth control, a massive cyst the size of a tennis ball had grown on her ovary. She had to have surgery to remove her entire ovary as a result.

“On the morning I was originally scheduled to give this testimony, she was sitting in a doctor’s office, trying to cope with the consequences of this medical catastrophe. Since last year’s surgery, she’s been experiencing night sweats and weight gain and other symptoms of early menopause as a result of the removal of her ovary. She’s 32-years-old. As she put it, ‘If my body indeed does enter early menopause, no fertility specialist in the world will be able to help me have my own children. I will have no choice at giving my mother her desperately desired grandbabies simply because the insurance policy that I paid for, totally unsubsidized by my school, wouldn’t cover my prescription for birth control when I needed it.’

Now, in addition to potentially facing the health complications that come with having menopause at such an early age – increased risk of cancer, heart disease, osteoporosis – she may never be able to conceive a child. Some may say that my friend’s tragic story is rare. It’s not. I wish it were One woman told us doctors believe she has endometriosis, but that can’t be proven without surgery. So the insurance has not been willing to cover her medication – the contraception she needs to treat her endometriosis. Recently, another woman told me that she also has polycystic ovarian syndrome and she’s struggling to pay for her medication and is terrified to not have access to it. Due to the barriers erected by Georgetown’s policy, she hasn’t been reimbursed for her medications since last August.

I sincerely pray that we don’t have to wait until she loses an ovary or is diagnosed with cancer before her needs and the needs of all of these women are taken seriously. Because this is the message that not requiring coverage of contraception sends: A woman’s reproductive health care isn’t a necessity, isn’t a priority. One woman told us that she knew birth control wasn’t covered on the insurance and she assumed that that’s how Georgetown’s insurance handle all of women’s reproductive and sexual health care. So when she was raped, she didn’t go to the doctor, even to be examined or tested for sexually transmitted infections, because she thought insurance wasn’t going to cover something like that – something that was related to a woman’s reproductive health.

As one other student put it: ‘This policy communicates to female students that our school doesn’t understand our needs. These are not feelings that male fellow student experience and they’re not burdens that male students must shoulder. In the media lately, some conservative Catholic organizations have been asking what did we expect when we enroll in a Catholic school? We can only answer that we expected women to be treated equally, to not have our school create untenable burdens that impede our academic success. We expected that our schools would live up to the Jesuit creed of ‘cura personalis‘ – to care for the whole person – by meeting all of our medical needs. We expected that when we told our universities of the problem this policy created for us as students, they would help us. We expected that when 94% of students oppose the policy the university would respect our choices regarding insurance students pay for – completely unsubsidized by the university. We did not expect that women would be told in the national media that we should have gone to school elsewhere. And even if that meant going to a less prestigious university, we refuse to pick between a quality education and our health. And we resent that in the 21st century, anyone think it’s acceptable to ask us to make this choice simply because we are women.

Many of the women whose stories I’ve shared today are Catholic women. So ours is not a war against the church. It is a struggle for the access to the health care we need. The President of the Association of Jesuit Colleges has shared that Jesuit colleges and the universities appreciate the modifications to the rule announced recently. Religious concerns are addressed and women get the health care they need. And I sincerely hope that that is something we can all agree upon.
“Thank you very much.”

I don't expect an Asshat like Will E. Worm to read and comprehend Sandra Fluke's congressional testimony, but for others who aren't blind partisans, it might help to put some things into context.
 

Jane Burgess

Official Checked Star Member
While I'm not condoning what Maher said, the difference is that Sandra Fluke is a private citizen-a student who was asking for an opportunity to speak on behalf of a fellow student and women in general about personal medical needs. Sandra Fluke didn’t attack anyone. On the other hand, Palin is a very powerful public figure and political predator well-known for her verbal political attacks. When Limbaugh called Sandra Fluke a slut and a prostitute he was bullying a powerless innocent private citizen but when Maher called Palin a cunt he was bullying a very powerful bully.



Bullshit. There are no excuses for calling Fluke a slut and there is no reason to call Palin a cunt. Both sides are guilty as hell for name calling. Maher should be called out as well for all his bullshit. Maher is just as bad as Limbaugh.
 

Will E Worm

Conspiracy...
And Conservatives call for small government and getting it out of your life but they have no problem being all up in your personal life.

She wants a handout. She needs to move to another country.

I don't expect an Asshat like Will E. Worm to read and comprehend Sandra Fluke's congressional testimony, but for others who aren't blind partisans, it might help to put some things into context.

:facepalm::sleep:

I comprehend more than you every will.
 

xfire

New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
It's fairly accepted that public figures are fair game. Sandra Fluke isn't a public figure. Sure, you could make the argument that she put herself into the line of fire by speaking out, but I think she hit the nail on the head when she said that the drug-addicted slobby troll Limbaugh was trying to silence her. Fuck Rush. I hope all of his sponsors abandon ship.
 

Will E Worm

Conspiracy...
[B][URL="https://www.freeones.com/jane-burgess said:
Jane Burgess[/URL][/B], post: 6530581, member: 201847"]Bullshit. There are no excuses for calling Fluke a slut and there is no reason to call Palin a cunt. Both sides are guilty as hell for name calling. Maher should be called out as well for all his bullshit. Maher is just as bad as Limbaugh.

Maher is much worse. I hope he joins Hitchens soon if he can't grow up.
 

xfire

New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
She wants a handout. She needs to move to another vountry.

I comprehend more than you every will.

If you had even an ounce of comprehension you wouldn't have written those first two sentences. You are truly an ignorant piece of shit. Go stand in a puddle of water and stick your finger in a light socket.
 

Will E Worm

Conspiracy...
If you had even an ounce of comprehension you wouldn't have written those first two sentences. You are truly an ignorant piece of shit. Go stand in a puddle of water and stick your finger in a light socket.

More :baconsalt: from you... :facepalm:
 
Bullshit. There are no excuses for calling Fluke a slut and there is no reason to call Palin a cunt. Both sides are guilty as hell for name calling. Maher should be called out as well for all his bullshit. Maher is just as bad as Limbaugh.

I know you righties like to think that guys like Maher hold considerable clout with the Democratic party but that's simply not the truth. We(the left) don't have a Rush Limbaugh, a sort of grand poobah who we take our cues from. Bill Maher is a comedian who does political commentary. Rush Limbaugh is a political commentator who tries to be funny.
 

xfire

New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
You really are despicable. Why can't you admit you were wrong to continue attacking this woman? The truth doesn't mean anything to people like you, and that's why no one takes your gimpy politics seriously.
 

Jane Burgess

Official Checked Star Member
I know you righties like to think that guys like Maher hold considerable clout with the Democratic party but that's simply not the truth. We(the left) don't have a Rush Limbaugh, a sort of grand poobah who we take our cues from. Bill Maher is a comedian who does political commentary. Rush Limbaugh is a political commentator who tries to be funny.



Right, Maher has no clout with the Democratic party. (eyeroll) That is a very false statement. I don't even like Rush Limbaugh, nor do I listen to him. Once again, the Democrats didn't say jack shit when he called Palin a slut. Dems seem to love to jump on Republicans for their bad behavior, but don't say a damn thing when one of their own acts like a dumbass. That is beyond pathetic. I am also not a righty. I'm a person that thinks people should take care of their own needs instead of thinking the governement or everyone else owes them shit.
 
I would like to clarify that I don't think being on the pill makes anyone a slut. Like I said before, I think everyone should pay for their own birth control. It has nothing to do with politics or religion on my part. I just feel that if you want to have sex, you need to be responsible enough to pay for your own birth control. Period. This debate has been going on for a long time, way before Limbaugh said what he said.

Good Post. :clap:


Even if I think Rush is a has been and a blow hard, I still think your post is valid.
 
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