O'Reilly chases two of the hosts on The View off the set by truth

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I love how "conservatives" whine about liberals not listening to "anyone's opinions other than their own". Yeah, they really lead by example on that one. O'Lielly on The View is a perfect example of "conservative" tolerance of opposing views.

 

[Hot Mega]

I love how "conservatives" whine about liberals not listening to "anyone's opinions other than their own". Yeah, they really lead by example on that one. O'Lielly on The View is a perfect example of "conservative" tolerance of opposing views.

O'Loudmouth to View broads: "listen and learn".

Now we just had a thread alleging it is Progressives (so called "libs") always being condescending.:dunno:

 

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"conservatives" have to maintain their narrative, and lawd knows they've got the echo chamber for it.

Pukes like Bill-O aren't really conservative. He's just protecting his own ass-ets.

 

[Ace Bandage]

O'Reilly may not be right all of the time, but he is damn sure louder. From what I saw on the clip, both sides looked equally intolerant of dissenting opinions. The View hosts were constantly interrupting Bill and trying to shout him down. Why not let him talk and then state the reasons why you disagree with him? If both sides had played nice they might have had a reasonable, productive discussion. You had him as a guest, let him talk.

I understand where O'Reilly is coming from. Yes, they have every right to build the mosque wherever the fuck they want. But that doesn't mean that it's appropriate to put it within blocks of ground zero. And apparently Bill isn't in the minority on this view if his statistic is to be trusted (source?).

That being said, it's a no-win for Obama. If he speaks out against it, he's suggesting discriminating against a certain religion in a country that was founded on principles of religious freedom. He'd be viewed as intolerant and xenophobic. If he doesn't speak out against it, he's a pushover catering to a religion whose zealots were responsible for the deadliest terrorist attack on American soil. He'd be viewed as weak or unpatriotic. Pick your poison. It's a really unfortunate predicament. But in actuality, it doesn't really matter what he thinks. That's the bitch of it. His opinion doesn't affect anything.

I think O'Reilly understand this perfectly. And if your agenda is to attack the president, and let's face it, that's his agenda, then you have the perfect platform from which to do so. Anything he can do to question Obama's credibility or leadership, he's going to do. Right or wrong.

 

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Oh, and fuck Laura Ingraham. She's like a fat Ann Coulter.

 

[meesterperfect]

Can't wait until a Muslims flies a plane into Fox News.

I'm not gonna get all over you about that statement but really thats a sick thing to hope for.

you don't want to see innocent people die do you?

fuck it. i'm leaving until you apologize.

 

[Hot Mega]

O'Reilly may not be right all of the time, but he is damn sure louder.

That's the point of those like Billo...just be louder, more shrill and more persistent...facts or reality be damned.

 

[Baill Inneraora]

How offensive to the conservatives is it to say white, male, Christian, anti-government, Libertarian voting, anti-tax, zealots murdered hundreds of innocent Americans on April 19, 1995?

 

[meesterperfect]

How offensive to the conservatives is it to say white, male, Christian, anti-government, Libertarian voting, anti-tax, zealots murdered hundreds of innocent Americans on April 19, 1995?

its not offensive.

and guaranteed the black jew liberal democrat woman and the white jew liberal democrat woman would not have thought twice about that statement had o'reilly said it.

but say muslim and they react like trained poodles.

btw mcveigh wasnt really a practicing christian and he did that as answer to waco.
little different from allah is great, kill the infidel no?

 

[~~whimsy~~]

How offensive to the conservatives is it to say white, male, agnostic, anti-government, Libertarian voting, anti-tax, zealots murdered hundreds of innocent Americans on April 19, 1995?

He wasn't Christian. He was a self-proclaimed agnostic.

 

[Zolf J. Kimbly]

How offensive to the conservatives is it to say white, male, Christian, anti-government, Libertarian voting, anti-tax, zealots murdered hundreds of innocent Americans on April 19, 1995?

White folks be crazy too see

 

[LiveLaughFuck]

I can see why they might be frustrated, for him not to differentiate between Islam as a whole and the radicals within that faith is a bit of a crude use of underhanded language (this is O'Reilly we're talking about here). But I think walking off in a huff just because you couldn't get your way was the wrong thing to do. You allow the man to speak and then you attempt to rebut his remarks, you don't throw his own tactic of attempting to shout his opponents into submission without listening to a word they're saying back at him because the entire show becomes nothing more than indecipherable white noise to the viewing audience.

I dunno, I'm guessing this is Loose Women for the US market - if so it's basically white noise most of the time anyway so this shouldn't really be so much of a big deal.

Great Post.

However, when you're talking about Bill O'Reilly its hard to allow the man to speak and then rebut his remarks. One of the great techniques of Foxnews, is the "cut the mic" technique. Basically if you dont agree with Bill O'Reilly or Foxnews, they talk over you as loud as possible... if you attempt to then talk over them, chances are it will result in a request for your microphone to be muted... (and by request, i of course mean demand)

 

[Trident1]

He wasn't Christian. He was a self-proclaimed agnostic.

Yeop.


I love how the libs drum up that moron McVeigh to counter balance the level of murder committed by Islamists.

 

[YMIHERE]

Blaming the group for the actions of a few is collective punishment. A vile and medieval state of mind. In fact, this fits the definition of bigotry i.e. One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ. So to not be a bigot, in addition to Muslim, what groups should be subject to collective punishment according to this list of terrorist?

Eric Robert Rudolph (born September 19, 1966), also known as the Olympic Park Bomber, is an American radical described by the FBI as a terrorist who committed a series of bombings across the southern United States which killed two people and injured at least 150 others.

Rudolph declared that his bombings were part of a guerrilla campaign against abortion and what he describes as "the homosexual agenda." He spent years as the FBI's most wanted criminal fugitive, but was eventually caught. In 2005 Rudolph pleaded guilty to numerous federal and state homicide charges and accepted five consecutive life sentences in exchange for avoiding a trial and the death penalty. Rudolph was connected with the white supremacist Christian Identity movement. Although he has denied that his crimes were religiously or racially motivated, Rudolph has also called himself a Roman Catholic in "the war to end this holocaust" (of abortion).

James Kopp:
James Charles Kopp (born August 2, 1954) is an American citizen who was convicted in 2003 for the 1998 sniper-style murder of Dr. Barnett Slepian, an Amherst, New York physician who performed abortions. Prior to his capture, Kopp was on the FBI's list of Ten Most Wanted Fugitives. On June 7, 1999 he had become the 455th fugitive placed on the list by the FBI. He was affiliated with anti-abortion group "The Lambs of Christ." He has been referred to as a terrorist by the National Memorial Institute for the Prevention of Terrorism.

The Phineas Priesthood:
Letters left at the scene of an April 1996 bank robbery/clinic bombing in Spokane, Washington, contained Identity propaganda, diatribes against the banking system and were signed with the symbol of the "Phineas Priesthood." [At the time of the robbery, a bomb was set off at a nearby Planned Parenthood clinic as a diversion, with death threats toward abortion providers contained in the note left with that bomb.] The three men arrested, Charles Barbee, Robert Berry and Jay Merrell, were linked to white supremacist and "Identity" groups and were also charged with setting off bombs at a newspaper office and a Planned Parenthood clinic. All three were convicted.

Tim McVeigh:
Timothy James McVeigh (April 23, 1968 – June 11, 2001) was a United States Army veteran and security guard who bombed the Alfred P. Murrah Building in Oklahoma City on the second anniversary of the Waco Siege, as revenge against what he considered to be a tyrannical federal government. The bombing killed 168 people, and was the deadliest act of terrorism within the United States prior to the September 11, 2001 attacks.

Buford Furrow:
Buford O'Neal Furrow, Jr. (born November 25, 1961) perpetrated the August 1999 Los Angeles Jewish Community Center shooting on August 10, 1999, when he attacked a day care center at the North Valley Jewish Community Center. The shooting injured three children, and a receptionist. He also shot dead US Postal Service carrier Joseph Ileto who was Filipino American. Furrow was a member of the white-supremacist group Aryan Nations in 1995.

On January 24, 2001 Furrow pleaded guilty all of the counts against him. In exchange for pleading guilty, Furrow avoided a possible death sentence, but was instead sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. According to the indictment, Furrow expressed no regrets for any of his crimes.

This is just a sampling. There were many more such cases in which clinics were bombed, government officials and offices threatened or attacked.

These activities slowed considerably in the past eight years, but continue to bubble along. There was, for instance, the case of Demetrius "Van" Crocker, who was caught trying to buy explosives he planned to bomb Congress with. Or William Krar, who put together a cyanide bomb he planned to set off in a public venue. Or Chad Castagana, the self-described Coulter/Malkin worshipper who sent various liberal figures fake anthrax threats. There have been many others.

Indeed, as we recently reported, there has in fact been an uptick in domestic terrorism cases in the past couple of years. Here's the rundown:

-- July 2008: A gunman named Jim David Adkisson, agitated at how "liberals" are "destroying America," walks into a Unitarian Church and opens fire, killing two churchgoers and wounding four others.
-- October 2008: Two neo-Nazis are arrested in Tennessee in a plot to murder dozens of African-Americans, culminating in the assassination of President Obama.

-- December 2008: In Belfast, Maine, police discover the makings of a nuclear "dirty bomb" in the basement of a white supremacist shot dead by his wife. The man, who was independently wealthy, reportedly was agitated about the election of President Obama and was crafting a plan to set off the bomb.

-- January 2009: A white supremacist named Keith Luke embarks on a killing rampage in Brockton, Mass., raping and wounding a black woman and killing her sister, then killing a homeless man before being captured by police as he is en route to a Jewish community center.

-- February 2009: A Marine named Kody Brittingham is arrested and charged with plotting to assassinate President Obama. Brittingham also collected white-supremacist material.

-- April 2009: A white supremacist named Richard Poplawski opens fire on three Pittsburgh police officers who come to his house on a domestic-violence call and kills all three, because he believed President Obama intended to take away the guns of white citizens like himself. Poplawski is currently awaiting trial.

-- April 2009: Another gunman in Okaloosa County, Florida, similarly fearful of Obama's purported gun-grabbing plans, kills two deputies when they come to arrest him in a domestic-violence matter, then is killed himself in a shootout with police.

-- May 2009: A "sovereign citizen" named Scott Roeder walks into a church in Topeka, Kansas, and assassinates abortion provider Dr. George Tiller.

-- June 2009: James Von Brunn opens fire at the Holocaust Museum, killing a security guard.

-- February 2010: An angry tax protester named Joseph Ray Stack flies an airplane into the building housing IRS offices in Austin, Texas. (Media are reluctant to label this one "domestic terrorism" too.)

-- March 2010: Seven militiamen from the Hutaree Militia in Michigan and Ohio are arrested and charged with plotting to assassinate local police officers with the intent of sparking a new civil war.

-- March 2010: An anti-government extremist named John Patrick Bedell walks into the Pentagon and opens fire, wounding two officers before he is himself shot dead.

-- May 2010: A "sovereign citizen" from Georgia is arrested in Tennessee and charged with plotting the violent takeover of a local county courthouse.

-- May 2010: A still-unidentified white man walks into a Jacksonville, Fla., mosque and sets it afire, simultaneously setting off a pipe bomb.

-- May 2010: Two "sovereign citizens" named Jerry and Joe Kane gun down two police officers who pull them over for a traffic violation, and then wound two more officers in a shootout in which both of them are eventually killed.

-- July 2010: An agitated right-winger and convict named Byron Williams loads up on weapons and drives to the Bay Area intent on attacking the offices of the Tides Foundation and the ACLU, but is intercepted by state patrolmen and engages them in a shootout and armed standoff in which two officers and Williams are wounded.

 

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Muslims: If they are not apart of the moderate group they are extremist suicide bombing, car bombing, Jew hating, beheading, torturing radicals. If they are moderate they are culturally different who believes in the stoning of women, indifference of Jews, marrying of very young children, and beheading/murdering of those (even family members; especially daughters) they do not agree with or are not in tune with their views.

Christians: They hold group protests that piss off liberals and homosexuals. Very few groups throughout history take it to a extreme that makes THEM look bad. The rest continue on in life unknown unless they mention something about Jesus Christ and someone disagrees. The Christian moves on.

 

[Hot Mega]

He wasn't Christian. He was a self-proclaimed agnostic.

Whatever he was...whatever cause he co-opted and did it in the name of...what McVeigh did was on McVeigh..

 

[~~whimsy~~]

It is on him and he proudly takes it as his own. He basically allowed himself to be caught when he got pulled over by a cop and he immediately presented his handgun with hollow-point black talon bullets. He did say had he been accepted into the Army Rangers things might of went a different route. Thing is, who knows? :dunno:

 

[Hot Mega]

It is on him and he proudly takes it as his own. He basically allowed himself to be caught when he got pulled over by a cop and he immediately presented his handgun with hollow-point black talon bullets. He did say had he been accepted into the Army Rangers things might of went a different route. Thing is, who knows? :dunno:

I see the point of that was entirely missed. Don't you think every one of the 19 fuckups on 9/11 "proudly" took their actions as their own too?? I mean you can't make a more certain testament to your actions than to put your life on it too.

Further, if McVeigh had actually intended, "allowed" (or whatever) himself to be caught, he would have stayed his sick ass at the scene and confessed instead of scurrying away. He never intended to be caught and it wasn't until the cops pieced together a few things that they stumbled upon the fact that he was probably the idiot who did what he did.

But the point was the cause for which this loser took action in the name of hasn't caused the entire lot of people (maybe even yourself) who believe in the same cause to be castigated. No one's hounding Waco symps and denying them their rights to do whatever it is they may have a right to do. No one is stopping Christian groups (for example) from buying land previously owned by the abortion doctor killed by some idiot in the name of ....

What the hell was the point of you adding if he'd been "accepted" (BTW, no one is EVER "accepted" into being an operator. It's earned.) into Army Rangers blah, blah, blah you were trying to make with that?? Is that like some excuse for this loser or something?? If you don't cut it you don't cut it for a reason. McVeigh is a huge, inflamed, puss filled zit exemplifying why a weak link like him wouldn't, couldn't, shouldn't and didn't cut it.

(If your random post was actually intended as a reply to mine. I can scarcely tell with some of you in the no quote reply club aka she-men quote-haters club.:lame: :1orglaugh)

 

[Friday on my mind]

Bill"O was just doing what he does for publicity for his new book,and it worked.

To broad brush all muslims is of course wrong and he backed off right away but he gotten his sound bite by then which was his goal. It is wrong to broad brush all muslims as it would be wrong to broad brush all christians for Timothy McVeigh who was by the way a disciple of a book called "the turner diaries" which is an extreme christian based book of hate.

If you are going to oppose a mosque and Islam then be consistent and oppose christian churches and christianity as well,otherwise you are just a selective person when it comes to opposing religions and extremists and a hypocrite.

 

[Hot Mega]

Bill"O was just doing what he does for publicity for his new book,and it worked.

Sorry FOMM...Billo and any of the clowns like him (Palin, Hannity, Rush, etc., etc., etc., etc.) have a built in customer base for their comic books. They also have a fail proof system of organizations buying their tripe in bulk (to then pass out to members of some group) to ensure everything they write is "best" sellered. (And these people decry socialism? They're the biggest socialists in the world when it comes to this)

The finest assembly line man has built can't operate with the symbiotic precision of the GOPer politico machinery.