Mosque’s opponents have taken opposite position in court

[amawitapa]

I'm not indicting every muslim!!!


However, the Cordoba mosque is very insensitive to the memory of NON MUSLIMS who were burned, maimed, crushed, and obliterated by Takfiri Muslims in the name of their frakkin allah.


Has empathy gone away or something?!!!

You ARE indicting every muslim by saying a few can't worship. The building may be a little risque, but there are already hundreds in New York so I don't know why people are making a fuss.

Like it or hate it, its a free country. The god-damned Westboro Baptist Church can protest at brave soldiers' funerals but sadly its a free country so they can do that. Embarrassing and despicable, yes. However, they have the constitutional right to expression. So do the builders of the mosque. I don't care if 80% of the country is offended by the mosque, they have the right to build it.

 

[Trident1]

I'm out of this bs.

 

[vodkazvictim]

You ARE indicting every muslim by saying a few can't worship. The building may be a little risque, but there are already hundreds in New York so I don't know why people are making a fuss.

Like it or hate it, its a free country. The god-damned Westboro Baptist Church can protest at brave soldiers' funerals but sadly its a free country so they can do that. Embarrassing and despicable, yes. However, they have the constitutional right to expression. So do the builders of the mosque. I don't care if 80% of the country is offended by the mosque, they have the right to build it.

If there are already hundreds in new york, why build another?
I'm sorry, I don't consider myself a typical Moslem-hater, but building one two streets away from the WTC? Just not smart.
There was recently an outrage in my town because a strip club was advertising outside a school. Same thing; some things just should not be too close together, and after 9/11, you can't build a new Mosque too close to the site.

 

[amawitapa]

If there are already hundreds in new york, why build another?
I'm sorry, I don't consider myself a typical Moslem-hater, but building one two streets away from the WTC? Just not smart.
There was recently an outrage in my town because a strip club was advertising outside a school. Same thing; some things just should not be too close together, and after 9/11, you can't build a new Mosque too close to the site.

I don't think the strip club near the school is comparable because that deals with indecency near children. The mosque certainly isn't comparable to a strip club. And even if you make the comparison, there is already as Mosque 4 blocks away from the 9/11 site, so should that be torn down because its "too close together?"

It just seems like a slippery slope. If they stop the building of this, where will it stop?

 

[amawitapa]

I'm out of this bs.

Thank god :rofl: When ya run out of bigoted arguments, call the outher side bs.

 

[freeryan]

This is akin to someone owning a plot of land next to Chelmno, or Treblinka and erecting a monument to the SS.

You're still classifying all muslims with the terrorists. You probably think Obama is still a muslim regardless of that already being refuted. You sure you're not a conservative? Christians built (made slaves) most of America's buildings on land that saw the slaughtering of natives but that's ok because you're excused if you're white and christian. Again, if there's already a Mosque in the vicinity, you really don't have a case.

 

[ForumModeregulator]

the perpetrators of 11/9 were wahabi radical muslims, a mosque has no place where the tragic murder of 3000 people happened. Guess who finance the construction of this mosque? Radical muslims group who have certainly a strawman when they want things done legally.

Let us never forget the tragedy that happened on 11/9...haha...

anyways the biggest issue is this. People dont like it, but they HAVE to deal with it. Shit makes the world go round...and this might appear to be "shit" to some people. I would say that this Mosque has the full right to build in this location, although some people find it offensive.

I find it extremely hard to understand. Nobody complained that much when Christians forcefully spread their "knowledge of god" for hundreds of years. THAT is the church that is supported by the status quo of this society so its not really a big deal to see one of those things pop up in every neighborhood. But when a Islamic Cultural Center (maybe a bit euphemistic) is built, people just CANT have that shit...I dont get it. Move on to more important shit. Like identifying and rationalizing the fact that THESE PEOPLE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11 and therefore should not be treated like so.

Religion is a poison. This is what it does to great minds. It divides.

 

[BioDefenseGrad]

Just wonderin' for a moment...

Where was the Conservative ~OUTRAGE~ in 2004/2005 when that company in Dubai wanted to takeover the U.S. port system? I remember hearing a lot of Congressional GOP'ers saying this was a "smart business decision for a global economy"

If there wasn't random conservative outrage toward muslims over that deal back in the day, why now over a much more harmless deal like a mosque?

Just askin', cuz, I dunno, it seems much easier (and cheaper) to monitor the comings/goings at a mosque in downtown NYC rather than cargo containers coming in from WhoKnowsWhere? :anonymous:

Conservatives were just as against this deal as Liberals, especially the ones in the NYC/NJ area.

 

[BioDefenseGrad]

You're still classifying all muslims with the terrorists. You probably think Obama is still a muslim regardless of that already being refuted. You sure you're not a conservative? Christians built (made slaves) most of America's buildings on land that saw the slaughtering of natives but that's ok because you're excused if you're white and christian. Again, if there's already a Mosque in the vicinity, you really don't have a case.

Soooo....we're supposed to tolerate the victory mosque because of that?

I understand why the owners have the right to build the mosque, it's whether they SHOULD build it.

I now see a lot of foolish people making an argument like yours. Why exactly should we NOT be up offended by this victory mosque?

 

[vodkazvictim]

I don't think the strip club near the school is comparable because that deals with indecency near children. The mosque certainly isn't comparable to a strip club. And even if you make the comparison, there is already as Mosque 4 blocks away from the 9/11 site, so should that be torn down because its "too close together?"

It just seems like a slippery slope. If they stop the building of this, where will it stop?

It's no slippery slope; it is simple. Keep the original building rather than knocking it down. Don't build hte new building. Offend no one.

 

[Hot Mega]

Soooo....we're supposed to tolerate the victory mosque because of that?

I understand why the owners have the right to build the mosque, it's whether they SHOULD build it.

I now see a lot of foolish people making an argument like yours. Why exactly should we NOT be up offended by this victory mosque?

Why shouldn't if they build it if they presumably had NOTHING to do it the extremist who caused the attack, have the right to and they are building among other things a memorial to the victims of 9/11?

I'll wait for a intelligent response.

 

[BioDefenseGrad]

Why shouldn't if they build it if they presumably had NOTHING to do it the extremist who caused the attack, have the right to and they are building among other things a memorial to the victims of 9/11?

I'll wait for a intelligent response.

Because Muslims have a long tradition of building victory mosques on or near the sites of Muslim slaughters of non-Muslims. Look up Babri Masjid, Hagia Sofia and the Cordoba Mosque, the namesake of this group. This group may not consider it a victory mosque, but the larger Muslim world would be right to see it as such, it would be as clear a message of "infidel" Western weakness and capitulation as the American flag planted on Mount Suribachi.

Do I want New Yorkers and 9/11 Victims families (there were 70 Muslims among the WTC dead, I wonder how their folks feel?) to have go through that feeling of being violated by Muslims, once again?

This is one of the few times when the majority of New Yorkers are united on a single issue. Over half of New York Democrats, Independents and Republicans say the mosque project should be moved. Over half of Catholics and Jews say the same thing.