i like the AR10, i don't have one personally but i'm lookin to buy one...i love the .308 caliber, good for pretty much anything i'd ever need to use it for and its a very common round plus i love the AR line of rifles for aesthetics, ease of maintenance, versatility and they're just really nice to shoot...i love my AR15, .223 is a fun little round
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i like the AR10, i don't have one personally but i'm lookin to buy one...i love the .308 caliber, good for pretty much anything i'd ever need to use it for and its a very common round plus i love the AR line of rifles for aesthetics, ease of maintenance, versatility and they're just really nice to shoot...i love my AR15, .223 is a fun little round
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Me safe queen :o . . . actually, it's a Scout Squad. I've made a decision to keep it as a ''box stocker'' with no additional aftermarket accessories with the exception of maybe an Aimpoint® someday and perhaps have an M14 / M1A master gunsmith swap out a few of the factory parts in favor of some closer tolerance ''match'' components, that is, if I'm guaranteed that the outcome of said parts swap will tighten up my MOAs.
All in all, I couldn't imagine lugging around any 7.62 rifle all day long at a summer course at Gunsite, for example . . well, I could, but I'd sure as hell get back onto a more disciplined work out schedule about 3 months prior to the course session, otherwise, after lunchtime I'd want to curl up in the shade and nappy-nap all aftertnoon.
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Me safe queen :o . . . actually, it's a Scout Squad. I've made a decision to keep it as a ''box stocker'' with no additional aftermarket accessories with the exception of maybe an Aimpoint® someday and perhaps have an M14 / M1A master gunsmith swap out a few of the factory parts in favor of some closer tolerance ''match'' components, that is, if I'm guaranteed that the outcome of said parts swap will tighten up my MOAs.
All in all, I couldn't imagine lugging around any 7.62 rifle all day long at a summer course at Gunsite, for example . . well, I could, but I'd sure as hell get back onto a more disciplined work out schedule about 3 months prior to the course session, otherwise, after lunchtime I'd want to curl up in the shade and nappy-nap all aftertnoon.
Oh dude, I got to shoot my buddy's Kel-Tec RFB around two weeks ago. It's only around 8 pounds with the 18inch bbl. He had an ACOG on it and I was averaging 1.7" groups at 100 yards. He's debating if he should put some Zeis glass on it or keep the ACOG and ad some SHF Magpul MBUS flip-sights on it.
Anyway, it's got the forward ejection, so South Paws can handle it with no problem. No jams or FTFs. Great rifle.
So do I. Fired a couple as a kid with my step-dad. But as an adult I have never had any desire to own one for protection, or collecting.
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^ LaLiLu - I've heard some good things about this particular Kel Tec unit, we'll have to soon get a closer look if you know what I mean.
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That's what we often take for granted . . we're a nation of people who have an opportunity to make individual choices for ourselves.
Thanks for posting in such a tasteful and tactful manner on a subject that often leads to :flame: ing. :hatsoff:
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That's what we often take for granted . . we're a nation of people who have an opportunity to make individual choices for ourselves.
Thanks for posting in such a tasteful and tactful manner on a subject that often leads to :flame: ing. :hatsoff:
Libby Grabbers will think that's conspiracy talk.
:1orglaughI'd love to see the damn thing in 5.56, but I guess the market doesn't need a new 5.56 in the mix. I love the 7.62 Nato, but it's still a bitch to find locally and is expensive as fuck.
Anyway, yeah, hats off to George Kellgren. The man takes risks and, IMO, makes some damn fine guns. The PMR-30 seems like a damn fun gun if the thing actually manages to cycle without constant hiccups. Rimfires in autos can be a bitch.
But the thought of 30rds of 22WMR makes for a fun "little" plinker. I can't wait to see if any idiots will choose to carry it as a CCW piece:1orglaugh
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The only gun I've fired is the M16a2 back in bootcamp and whenever I have to qualify with it. We had some very little training with bigger heavy artillery guns but not much. I'm a pretty crappy shooter and don't have a license to buy my own rifle. Oh well...maybe I'm more of a knife guy.
Are you a Yank? What state requires a license to buy a rifle? Or do you mean an NFA pre-86 M16? I could think of a lot of things I'd buy before I shelled out that kind of cash on a FA.
In MA you need the correct license for a high-capacity rifle or shotgun.
It seems like a pain in the ass, until you realize that nothing is banned in Massachusetts.
You can even open carry in Massachusetts.
It is just a question of qualifying for the license to do so.
You cannot even open carry in Texas.
It seems like a pain in the ass, until you realize that nothing is banned in Massachusetts.
You can even open carry in Massachusetts.
It is just a question of qualifying for the license to do so.
You cannot even open carry in Texas.
You can't open carry in Texas, but you can carry concealed, which I much prefer.
I don't like the license aspect, but it was like that in NY. For handguns. But you can buy any preban rifle in NY with just a 4473.
I'm not sure what I'd prefer...only being able to buy preban or a no-ban state with required licensing. Either way, it beats the hell out of New Jersey.
Is it just a matter of taking a course and passing a test, or does the sheriff/CLEO have full authority to deny a license without reason? That how it was for pistol permits in NY.
Idk why i wanna buy a S&W 500... i LOVE IT it looks AWESOME!!!
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i don't think i'd say i love guns, but I respect them, and believe they are key to maintaining a free society. Kansas went to a concealed carry law over the governor 2+ years ago. about 40,000 people had trained, last i heard. there have been cases of citizens protected both by carrying themselves and by others carrying, and NOT the increase in gun violence that is trumpted.
Kansas law lets businesses post a sticker that firearms are not allowed. I am waiting for the 1st licensed carrier obeying the law to be injured by a criminal ignoring the law... would seem to put business that have elected to not allow CONCEALED firearms (Target, Simon Malls) in legal jeopardy.
& yes, I do carry... a Bersa .45. My ex wife & sister carry the Bersa .380. As to long guns, the new Remington magazine fed hunting rifles look great, but at $1350 they're more than 2 700's, & more than proven 'black rifle' variants. I've been more interested in the advent of S&W & Bushmaster AR-15/ M4 style rifles chambered for .308.
In any case, true education is the key to preventing kids from 'accidentally' killing themselves or their friends. & the Kansas law mandates an about 4 hour course, & demonstration of proficiency with the firearm to start, & then a refresher to maintain the license... the license can be put on your driver's license or be separate... we were advised to do separate to NOT make police or clerks jumpy if they check. & for the check out we were warned NOT to group rounds, & especially NOT to do head shots, out of fear some lawyer would claim it was 'evidence of planning to shoot to kill' or some such drivel... I can assure you, if I have to draw it, I'm not playing around.
Courses ran ~120-150... Then it's about 200 more for the license & paperwork. annual range membership is only $20, & range time isn't expensive here in Kansas... just having the license doesn't make you safe... have to practice for what you hope to never have to do. Oh, & Kansas IS an agreement state with Colorado, but Nebraska & Missouri haven't realized that leaving criminals armed & refusing to allow law abiding citizens to carry hurts everyone.
I haven't elected to carry with a live round chambered... if i don't have time to rack the slide, i'd better not be showing i'm carrying... that's what Ernest Emerson & Kershaw's finest are for (but as an aside, carrying a folding blade is subject to some pretty Draconian laws that vary state to state).
talking about loving guns makes those opposed to it label us gun nuts. we won't change their minds, but there's no reason to help them paint those who choose to exercise 2nd Amendment rights as being dumb, cruel, aggressive, or dangerous.
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Kansas law lets businesses post a sticker that firearms are not allowed. I am waiting for the 1st licensed carrier obeying the law to be injured by a criminal ignoring the law... would seem to put business that have elected to not allow CONCEALED firearms (Target, Simon Malls) in legal jeopardy.
& yes, I do carry... a Bersa .45. My ex wife & sister carry the Bersa .380. As to long guns, the new Remington magazine fed hunting rifles look great, but at $1350 they're more than 2 700's, & more than proven 'black rifle' variants. I've been more interested in the advent of S&W & Bushmaster AR-15/ M4 style rifles chambered for .308.
In any case, true education is the key to preventing kids from 'accidentally' killing themselves or their friends. & the Kansas law mandates an about 4 hour course, & demonstration of proficiency with the firearm to start, & then a refresher to maintain the license... the license can be put on your driver's license or be separate... we were advised to do separate to NOT make police or clerks jumpy if they check. & for the check out we were warned NOT to group rounds, & especially NOT to do head shots, out of fear some lawyer would claim it was 'evidence of planning to shoot to kill' or some such drivel... I can assure you, if I have to draw it, I'm not playing around.
Courses ran ~120-150... Then it's about 200 more for the license & paperwork. annual range membership is only $20, & range time isn't expensive here in Kansas... just having the license doesn't make you safe... have to practice for what you hope to never have to do. Oh, & Kansas IS an agreement state with Colorado, but Nebraska & Missouri haven't realized that leaving criminals armed & refusing to allow law abiding citizens to carry hurts everyone.
I haven't elected to carry with a live round chambered... if i don't have time to rack the slide, i'd better not be showing i'm carrying... that's what Ernest Emerson & Kershaw's finest are for (but as an aside, carrying a folding blade is subject to some pretty Draconian laws that vary state to state).
talking about loving guns makes those opposed to it label us gun nuts. we won't change their minds, but there's no reason to help them paint those who choose to exercise 2nd Amendment rights as being dumb, cruel, aggressive, or dangerous.
regards,
RA
I live in NYC so.. ha! Hard pressed to own anything here
Sometime I want to try to get a rifle permit so I can own some shotguns and be able to drive to long island to shoot clays.
And I would like to protect myself from the 2 legged vermin that likes to break into houses. .. (I've had my house broken into many times.),,,,,,,,
ButOf course there's a law in NYC that states your weapon(s) must be locked and concealed in a case at all times. Defeating purpose much?
Sometime I want to try to get a rifle permit so I can own some shotguns and be able to drive to long island to shoot clays.
And I would like to protect myself from the 2 legged vermin that likes to break into houses. .. (I've had my house broken into many times.),,,,,,,,
ButOf course there's a law in NYC that states your weapon(s) must be locked and concealed in a case at all times. Defeating purpose much?
I do love guns. I go our and target shoot all the time.
Frankly I prefer a bow and arrow though, but that's just me.
I just think it is something that is a kind of a meditation to me.
But they are not for everyone and I get that.
I don't need it for self defense though. I have live crabs for that.
Frankly I prefer a bow and arrow though, but that's just me.
I just think it is something that is a kind of a meditation to me.
But they are not for everyone and I get that.
I don't need it for self defense though. I have live crabs for that.
I live in NYC so.. ha! Hard pressed to own anything here
Sometime I want to try to get a rifle permit so I can own some shotguns and be able to drive to long island to shoot clays.
And I would like to protect myself from the 2 legged vermin that likes to break into houses. .. (I've had my house broken into many times.),,,,,,,,
ButOf course there's a law in NYC that states your weapon(s) must be locked and concealed in a case at all times. Defeating purpose much?
Eh, even here in the midwest some states the C&C license just continues to go up. I don't know what it's at now, but some single-income pretty lady probably can't even afford to protect herself. Pretty shitty, huh?
I agree
That's the sad fact, it ain't about 2nd Amendment Rights, it's about politics and state revenue. In Ohio, the mandated course cost nearly $200...then the county and state charge for finger printing, photo processing, background check and licensing fee.
It reeks of the "Saturday night special" and '94 AW bans. It's about income, not guns. More classist, racist hypocrisy from the overreaching Left.
No, it's the former, Lalilulelohan. As long as you have passed the safety test administered at a legitimate gun club, and passed the criminal background check, they cannot deny you your license.
Thanks for the info. Massachusetts seems a lot more tolerant than I thought. And it makes sense that Scott Brown claims to be both pro-gun and pro-registration.
