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- Thread starter Shifty
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I'm fully convinced you're gay. And that you have a tiny penis.
Must be hard for you.
Mayhem
Banned
Seriously brah.....were you going out of your way to be as full of shit as possible with this?
First of all, aside from remembering that it happened, you have the whole GSB thing wrong. I mentioned in one thread something about him, Yes, it was derogatory and it related to how he handled being a mod. If it caused the Round Table to be convened and discussions to be had, you guys took it waaay more seriously than I did.
Saying that I was given a chance to "clean up my act" is where you go completely off the rails and lose what used to be a certain amount of credibility with me. I was never a troll or a trouble maker here, and you know it. I doubt if there has ever been a discussion about me and if there was, you should be more troubled about it than me.
When I got banned, it was because Georges said I was flaming him. If Boothbabe was still here, she'd back me up. In the post in question, I wasn't responding to a mod because he was a mod. I was responding to a right-wing doofus because he is a right-wing doofus. He has said something that was stupid, even for him and I went to town on his ass, based on his post.
^^^ This is how it used to be and you fucking well know it. And the rest of you fucking well remember it. And so do you, Dirk. Anytime a member responded to anything, they'd have to double check if it was a mod they were responding too. Regardless of topic, regardless of previous discussion, watch what you say....if it's a mod. Members would warn other members in the thread, PM's used to fly around here saying, "Be careful with that guy, he'll ban you". It didn't matter what you said, it mattered who you said it too.
And again, me and Boothy got banned at, like 2AM Pacific time (for me). It happened immediately. So enough with this nonsense that the "Tribunal" decided I was guilty. I'm not buying it.
You mentioned "fair solutions in dozens of cases". Does that make up for all the unfair decisions in the other dozens of cases? In a thread, I once mentioned directly to Petra that when an old, multi-page thread resurfaces, go through the posts and see how many members have "Banned" under their names. My point wasn't refuted and this was the start (as it turned out) of things lightening up around here.
You are very convincing at acting like you have a clue. "Single bad experience"? Nice try. The bad experiences were ongoing, and I finally quit giving a damn either way about GSB because I finally realized that it indeed wasn't him....it was all of you. I was, in fact, being unfair by singling him out.
As far as being the only one....I don't mind. First, I've gotten my share of reps and PMs, based on what I've said. Back to the GSB thing, you know how you leave a little comment when you rep someone? Some guy wrote out an entire fucking paragraph agreeing with what I said on my GSB post, when he repped me. It's the only time that has happened, but it did. Second, while I don't want to be banned, I decided that I'm not going to spend my time here stifling my own views and beliefs because you think I should be scared of you. If I get perma-banned I get perma-banned. If I deserve it, I won't be allowed back. If I don't deserve it, I won't want to come back.
Maybe I should clarify after the fact: maybe it wasn't that the mods were doing such a bad job as they were operating under a faulty system. Out in the world, I think that mandatory sentencing is an abomination. But, where the law applies, perfectly good judges who also hate mandatory sentencing are forced to use it in their jobs. They have no choice. As time has progressed, I have realized that maybe the system failed the mods as well as the members. But since the system itself has changed, in case you haven't noticed, I've stopped giving two shits about the mods. Let's be clear on this point. You seem to have a mental picture of me as a malcontent who cracks his knuckles, waiting for my next chance to disparage the mods. That's patently absurd. If I had my way, I would have been here this entire time without even noticing that there are mods.
Shifty doesn't like the new system. I do. Shifty started a thread articulating his disatisfaction. I formed a response articulating that I disagree with him and why. That's what a BB site is for. You decided to weigh in and I decided to reply directly to you. A couple of years ago, would you be reading what you see here now? Hell no. I don't need 20 minutes of typing, proofreading and editing just to get banned. Hell, I can get banned with just two lines.
And I will close this out with a response to your final paragraph. I gauge the smoothness of this board by how many weeks have passed without a "Sticky" trying to recruit new mods. We've gone quite a while now. the system seems to be working. You seem to feel that I have recently accused the mods of being "ball-less". I have no idea where you got that idea. What you are is "contained". People aren't getting banned by the bushel anymore. Which is why I have clearly posted here and elsewhere that I am satisfied with the current system.
So what's the fuckin' problem? :1orglaugh
Shifty
O.G.
^^ Mayhem, you're often an articulate fellow, but please don't put words in my mouth (text in my post?).
Anyway, it's not that I dislike the new system. It's that I don't think it serves anyone - moderators or members - well. I think that moderators should have more 'power' than they do. Like most people, I've been out of line on a few occassions. I was penalized twice for it. I wasn't happy about it but I had to accept that there are rules and the mods are there to enforce them. It's not an easy job - and I imagine it can only be harder when certain members are allowed to conduct themselves in any manner they see fit.
Ever visit any of the other sections - ID, Favorite Babes, Games, Videos for example? Hardly ever any issues. These sections are moderated in the same manner, so why would that be?
It all has to do with who is posting in the other sections vs. who is posting in FreeOnes Talk. The current 'system' of moderating works very well in the other sections, but as we see not as well in FreeOnes Talk. In FreeOnes Talk the population is different and the nature of interaction is different. Therefore, the 'system' of moderating needs to be different
And not just for 'them'. For all of us.
Mayhem
Banned
If I put words in your mouth, I apologize. I don't think I did. Your OP pretty clearly states your dissatisfaction. But either way, apologies.
It's inevitable that the Talk section is going to be different. Especially on a porn forum. The whole point of this section is to bring our different perspectives here.
......you know, I was ready to go back to typing, then I lost steam. All of this has been said before. The only opinions I care about is Petra and Roald. If either of them want to continue this with me, I'll step back up. Until then, why should I keep arguing about why I'm happy about how this place is running? I wish we hadn't segregated politics and sports, but even that rates as a 1.5 on my give-a-fuck-ometer. If anyone wants to think I'm running away, cool, but they're the ones who make the changes. The rest of us are just words on a screen.
vodkazvictim
Why save the world, when you can rule it?
DOA82 has a shamefully unmutilated penis.
There, you've been attacked, happy now?
Will E Worm
Conspiracy...
You call that an attack? I've heard more offensive things from six-year-old girls. :tongue:
StanScratch
My Penis Is Dancing!
I have a friend who is a physical education teacher at an elementary school, and he once heard a girl in grade two (so, what's that, 7? 8 years old?) turn to a boy that had just pushed her during a basketball game and say, "Why don't you kiss my fucking pissflaps."
The initial response was to laugh, which he mastered, and then sent her to a female teacher to talk about "proper language."
It's a pretty good insult, though.
walks into thread
scans thread for name being bashed
walks out happy he no longer is a mod
I have a friend who is a physical education teacher at an elementary school, and he once heard a girl in grade two (so, what's that, 7? 8 years old?) turn to a boy that had just pushed her during a basketball game and say, "Why don't you kiss my fucking pissflaps."
The initial response was to laugh, which he mastered, and then sent her to a female teacher to talk about "proper language."
It's a pretty good insult, though.
:rofl2:
Sedition
xfire
New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
The answer is pretty clear.
PlasmaTwa2
The Second-Hottest Man in my Mother's Basement
I actually remember the whole GSB incident clearly since, oddly enough, it was the first big incident I experienced as a member of the mod team. See, I can look back on it and not be biased in describing what happened, unlike you, because you're remembering all of this from memory and you're describing it in a way to make it sound like you were unjustly banned while I'm sitting here re-reading over your posts and the posts in the mod section. Fact of the matter is, you were banned because you broke the rules at the time. Put as many coats of paint on that as you'd like, but you constantly toed the line, you antagonized the mods and called for one to be replaced cause you thought his style of modding (ironically enough, his responsible style of modding) was bullshit, and then you bait another member (who just so happens to be a person you dislike and a mod), and when you got caught for it you immediately claimed to be the victim. Anyone who has read the Board FAQ will also tell you it takes 15 infraction points to be permanently banned. So... if you were permanently banned with a small infraction, it means you had previous infractions. I didn't label you a trouble maker, but I did say you had a history that came back to bite you, which it did, and no amount of whining will change that it was your fault the you caught the attention of the mods in the first place and dried up any support you might have had.
And just to point it out: No, you weren't immediately banned by georges. Why the hell say that when you're arguing with someone who can look that up? You posted at 03:30, georges asked for opinions at 3:40 and you got banned nine hours later, which is plenty of time for other mod's opinions. And I'll also call you out on this: I'm sure you still have them, so show me a PM that warns members not to quarrell with a mod who isn't someone you don't like; aka not GSB or georges. Prove to everyone that you took the time to form a mature opinion on the mods and didn't just get sand in your vagina because people you didn't like became mods and you got banned for saying rude things to them that you got away with before they became mods. Cause that's what your post sounds like, dude; you're a kid who got yelled at on the playground by a teacher and now you're trying to revision the entire thing to make it sound like you weren't breaking the rules and you were unfairly punished.
And to asnwer your question: Yeah, I would be reading this two years ago. Know why? Because the same way you try to claim I am painting you as a troublemaker, at the same time you're painting me as the guy who banned you for insulting him, which is just stupid. And yeah, I'm going to sound like I'm tooting my own horn but you can ask the majority of people on this site if I do that and they'll tell you that I never have, just the same as you can ask them about 80% of the mod team and get the same result. You sit here claiming everyone of the mods acted like georges did when he banned you (by the way, if you'll recall I said last post I didn't agree with georges banning you himself) and that's an opinion that comes from bias and ignorance, and you know that as well as I do. That's the fucking problem: the opinions that you've been trumpeting around the board as fact ever since the rules chance are nothing but a blanket opinion that you created from interaction with mods you dislike that you use for all mods because you have no clue how the mods who weren't on the forefront of your mind interacted with the board. Do you really think that Petra would have allowed a system to continue for years where ten members were given magnifying glasses, parked in front of an anthill and given free reign over everybody else? No. We had rules and guidelines - both official and unofficial - that we obeyed, created and followed, and your entire opinion of the mod team is based on the few times someone made a wrong call - a call which was always and immediately overtuned by Petra if she did not agree with it. It's alright to have that opinion, and hell, to even post about it, but if you know that it is stupid then expect people to call you out on it, which is what I'm doing. Simply, your opinion is made up of the same complete and utter bullshit as half of the posts in the politics section, only with less numbers and it isn't made up of links to the Huffington Post. Unless you have proof that I - or DOA, or Supa, or Nikki, or P+DD, or pitino, or sp00ner, or M12 or any of the mods you have never interacted with before - would have banned you without reading this if the rules never changed, stop posting bullshit.
Also, this isn't nearly as venomous of a comment as everything else, but you shouldn't gauge the smoothness of the Board by the frequency of mod recruitment. In the few times I've seen mods leave the team - before and after the change - they were never immediately followed by Petra looking for new mods. You seem to think that the new rules were put in place in response to the criticism of the mod team, which isn't true. The Board has changed from what it was two years ago. Two years ago, we had rules and that required a stricter mod team. Now that people want to have a Board more similar to other boards, where you can say whatever you want, the rules don't have to be as strict. This isn't a case of the moderators directing the admins into a certain path - if they wanted to "contain" us and keep the old rules they could have. This is a case of the admins realizing people wanted something different and changing the board - mod team included - to reflect that.
I've never been the type of mod to ban people for disagreeing with me, I made that clear in several posts on this site. Does it annoy me that you blanket mods like myself, Supa and DOA into a category with mods you clearly have never liked and therefore have a biased opinion of? Yeah, it does. You have an opinion - great, guess what, you won't be banned for it - but if it is going to be insulting to the people who have put time and effort into being impartial and fair - today and two years ago - then you can be sure I'm going to hound you for it, because I know for a fact it was never as bad as you said it was.
Now how about we agree that we have vastly, vastly different opinons on this matter so you can get back to making fun of Republicans and I can post some more ponies?
