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Thanks for the history lesson, and all those useful little tid bits. First off, stow the patronising lecture. Secondly, I'm familiar with what started and ended the war. If I actual cared enough I'd have gone into sufficient detail to make the post seemingly more valid in your eyes. Although I sense a little bit of C and P'ing in that one, oh and dont even try and be over bearingly smug by trying that little bit of japanese translation in there, Im well aware of what they were. Yet Im seemingly trying to validate my post here, which is in hindsight a waste of my own time, since I have little concern of your and any one elses opinion.
But for the sake of argument, 1943 being a merely speculative date but if you look at the american perspective of war, then they percieve it as the date of their own entering into the fight. Forget the fact that europe was already well entrenched in the fighting before they showed up to save the world with the dramatic music and stars and stripes blowing proudly in the wind. Let us never forget that once again as years pass we are never allowed to ignore americas own great sacrifice, blah blah blah.
Im not trying to open up a pandoras box of debate and argument here, but I am saying that as "grand" a country as america with all it has to be proud of, it has a hell of alot to be ashamed of. And no, I'm not implying that my country is perfect, far from such. i would simply ask that you dont try trotting out whatever achievements you can dig up and presume to hold them over mine on anyone elses head like you personally accomplished them.
And if you are so concerned about how "your adopted country" is portrayed in some "juvenile miscreants" mind, then choose what threads you open carefully.
 
Orion74205 said:
Thanks for the history lesson, and all those useful little tid bits. First off, stow the patronising lecture. Secondly, I'm familiar with what started and ended the war. If I actual cared enough I'd have gone into sufficient detail to make the post seemingly more valid in your eyes. Although I sense a little bit of C and P'ing in that one, oh and dont even try and be over bearingly smug by trying that little bit of japanese translation in there, Im well aware of what they were. Yet Im seemingly trying to validate my post here, which is in hindsight a waste of my own time, since I have little concern of your and any one elses opinion.
But for the sake of argument, 1943 being a merely speculative date but if you look at the american perspective of war, then they percieve it as the date of their own entering into the fight. Forget the fact that europe was already well entrenched in the fighting before they showed up to save the world with the dramatic music and stars and stripes blowing proudly in the wind. Let us never forget that once again as years pass we are never allowed to ignore americas own great sacrifice, blah blah blah.
Im not trying to open up a pandoras box of debate and argument here, but I am saying that as "grand" a country as america with all it has to be proud of, it has a hell of alot to be ashamed of. And no, I'm not implying that my country is perfect, far from such. i would simply ask that you dont try trotting out whatever achievements you can dig up and presume to hold them over mine on anyone elses head like you personally accomplished them.
And if you are so concerned about how "your adopted country" is portrayed in some "juvenile miscreants" mind, then choose what threads you open carefully.


EXCUSE THE HELL OUT OF YOU, Orion. I was merely correcting your date(s) ... not attacking you personally for your views. Where in ****** hell do you get off jumping MY ass? I corrected your HISTORICAL data. I even AGREED with the intent of your post. I suggest you go back and read that first sentence a couple of more times and let it sink in and marinate a bit longer, eh?

HISTORICAL DATA, Orion ... nothing more, nothing less. It's quite apparent that you don't like having your information corrected ...

For ^THIS^ deliberate attempt at trying to start a battle, not only am I issuing bad rep, but I'm also sending a bad post report in on you for attempting to start a needless argument / battle. Nobody attacked you at all, bubba, nor is anyone "attempting to trot out" anything, I was merely expressng FACTUAL information ... information it seems you have no conclusive or historical grasp of, sir. ACCURATE INFORMATION that is widely available in all mediums: textbook, Internet, library, etc., etc., and can be verified very easily and without any trouble at all.

I respectfully suggest you quickly remove whatever little ill beastie crawled up your anal cavity and behave in a fashion meriting that of a FreeOnes' Board Member. Deliberately bating people like you did above will only serve to get you ******, bubba, in a very quick, very expeditious manner. Try being just a bit more respectful of others ... step back, take a deep, calming breath, and move on. Your arguments aren't wanted here nor is that supercillious, immature, and ultimately combative attitude of yours appreciated in any way.

Now ... DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR ME?
 
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Before this goes to far, Orion, I know I have been registered for a shorter time than you, but one of the things I've learned, is to not argue with AsianxxxChick. But thats just my:2 cents: Feel free to continue at your own discretion.(sp)
 
Actually I do take that back. Well, no I don't. But I do find it interesting, almost laughable to the point I have to pause for air , that in a board of free opinion and discussion, the opinion of one such individual can be criticised so heavily to the point where banning becomes a threat. I would not be so naive to believe that this is enforced through rep points or the fact that someones point is more valid than anothers, but rather that someone is both insecure enough to feel so negative about another person because they are faced with an opinion that is contrary to their own.
In the case of myself I have no problem accepting the opinion or views of others, but i do find it necassary to respond myself to them when they are the views of someone whose mentality equals that of a spoilled *****.
And if you will read my posts again, youll see that despite my debatably combatative nature, I also conceded that I respected the opinions of others and wasnt intentionally declaring a war on any one individual.
Negative rep points though? As I am unaware and unconcerned with their function on the board, I'm not bothered about that in anyway. I do find it irritating that simply because the bigger fish in these parts, seemingly dangerous enough to merit a warning from another member, though I cant grasp why unless you have some special pull with the moderators, which simply compounds my belief that such places are ruled by those who are only content when they get their own way.
 
mehateme said:
Damn, how.. But... How the... Arg, that page must be fake and a joke:rolleyes:
If you think its fake, email the owner of the site. I'm sure he would be happy to inform you of his current feelings.
 
Orion74205 said:
But in future if Americans and Non-Americans wanna get into ap issing contest abouthow great there country is, for **** and giggles or for a serious debate. Try looking at your own country before trying to compare it to someone elses!

Excuse me but didn't I applogise to the American member's on the board.I've no beef with any country in the way these pictures was posted.Like Colonel said if it was one it was funny but he kept posting and posting.I also believe this isn't the first time he's done this.

Now I can my fun of other people's country,but I also make fun of my own country too.So as for your quote about a contest about how great there country is I'll take a shot at my own.To bring up WWII again we was one of the first if not if my memory serves me right the first one in it against Germany.At that time we had one of if not the best man for man army in the world.Now day's our ***'s don't even fire properly.
 
End of the day I dont care what she has to say, about pretty much anything. If she gets her fun and ego storking from strong arming a few people on a message board on the net then dear god what has the world come to. I'm all for a good argument or a lengthy debate but realistically this is a message board that centres and operates around porn! If she got me ****** I hardly think my world would come crashing down, hell I'd probably not blink an eye. In the meantime I'm gonna have my fun elsewhere and i suggest everyone else do the same.
 
Orion ... I have but two words for you:

GROW UP.

No ... on second thought ... I have a few more than those two:

No one is "strong-arming" anyone. I made mention of the Bad REP as well as the Bad Post Report because of your argumentativeness and your penchant for opening your mouth and inserting your foot into it. I could personally care less if you get ****** or not. If you continue to act as you have today ... then, yes, I am sure one of the Moderators WILL eventually step in and advise you to stow that attitude posthaste.

Until that happens, trust me when I say that I'm not on some misguided crusade to have you ****** or see your alleged "free speech" restricted in any way. In fact, this is my first reply back to you since you started in ... true or false? What I DO highly object to and will sound off in a loud manner about is your sarcastic, blowhard b.s. replies in these past few posts.

You are argumentative, obnoxious, sarcastic, and easily angered over something inconsequential as a REPLY CORRECTING your information. If you go back to the post you made regarding Word War II and America's involvement, you will find that I HIGHLIGHTED that specific part of the quote that was incorrect and posted the ACCURATE and HISTORICALLY CORRECT information. That is all ... nothing more; nothing less. There was no ulterior motive, no vendetta, no perceived crime against you ... or whatever fantasy you've concocted in your narrow little mind about me.

YOU, my dear truculent and quarrelsome Scottish friend, are the one who has escalated the issue each time today with some bellicose and antagonistic reposte about MY "attitude", etc., when I've done nothing more to you than politely correct your information regarding your own historical inaccuracies in your post. YOU are the one who has single-handedly managed to send this thread spiraling down to a quick demise by your own foul attitude and insistence on keeping this particular subject alive.

It's THAT portion of your conduct as a Member that will get you ****** ... on your own, not through my "mystical powers" or "influence over the Moderators" or anything else. It will be your ATTITUDE, sir ... nothing more.

Now, as I mentioned previously, kindly remove - in as quick a manner as possible - whatever foul wee beastie crawled up into your anal cavity and died; its' fetid stench reeks.

If you have anything further to say to me - or about me - I SUGGEST you handle it via private messages, my friend.

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Orion74205 said:
End of the day I dont care what she has to say, about pretty much anything. If she gets her fun and ego storking from strong arming a few people on a message board on the net then dear god what has the world come to.
For someone who doesn't care about what is said in regard to your posts you sure do post a quick and sharp reply.
I've read your and heard your point. However much rubbish I believe it is you're entitled to your opinion, just like I am.
As for whatever it was that you said... in one ear and out the other it doesn't change my opinion on the thread. :2 cents:
 
I do have the option of continuing this mindless little debate via PM, in fact I'm at a loss to understand why i'm replying to this right now, but i couldnt possibly deny all these other board members such entertaining chit-chat between the pair of us. What else can I say but, I just have that kinda time on my hands.
Not really sure where to begin this time.....Well I could start by saying kudos to your knowledge of the english language, you either have just that competent a grasp of the english language, or you did indeed swallow a thesaurus at somepoint in your life and neglected to have it removed since the confused expression on the face of anyone you converse with vocally no doubt brought you a state of exhiliration that may in some way get you off.

I could start by saying that yes, i am argumentative, i am sarcastic and stating facts that are compounded daily in my life servesl ittle purpose here. And I will let slip that it is my own personal interactions with americans that have been the reason for the development of these qualities.

I could also have started by saying that with exception of this incident here, the one that has ruffled your feathers to a point that you took the time to not only type, edit, retype, edit a little more, then scrutinise with a fine tooth-comb that wonderfully eliquent response above, my behaviour on the board has been favourable, I wont be winning member of the week award anytime, but I am modest in my posts and hapy enough to join in any thread that I find interesting. i will admit that my participation in this one however poorly chosen, was prompted by outside ****** and blind arrogance of others just happens to be one of my buttons.

And I'll be more than happy to continue to this conversation, though I use that word loosely, anytime. But then I risk labelling myself a hypocrite, as I might've already done by even penning this reply. But as I've admitted prior, i just have that kinda time.

Though before I call it for a night, "fetid stench reeks"? What will it be next time, a remark as to my sexuality being in question, size of genitalia being an issue, my oh my whatever retort could you find that doesnt fit the cliche.
 
poggy1 said:
As I'm from the north of England I apologise for on behalf of my country to the US members.
bobblez said:
Since a certain documentary on American fast foods the first picture has been travelling a lot through internet's world....
Obesity is an issue in America, as I read. So maybe it is not so nice to make fun of it.
Someone said, don't remember who, "one can laugh of everything, but not with everyone."
Some other said "i disagree with you, but i'd die for your right to express it."
(don't ask me about names)
It is always good to have different views, the world is not only American orientated...
( but did not know that in Eurpoe pple would make fun of American this way)
Gordar said:
As a European I'm going to join Poggy1 and apologize for this thread.
Obesity is not the only thing that is wrong here in the United States, but people being offended.
We have a phrase called the "United States of the Offended," and our TV media is one of the biggest creators of such.
The issue of being "politically correct" is a major issue that many Americans are tired of.

As an American, I want to insist that you never stop making fun of America, because we have to laugh at ourselves.
Weight is fair (pun)gain(pun) as well, so I have no problem with pictures like this.
In fact, one of our chronic issues here in the US is the "lose weight quick" diet, and people are having major thyroid issues as a result of poor low-carb diets.
All in the search of being sickly thin, which is never healthy.

The only thing I ask is that you don't of Americans is labeling us as if we don't care about the world.
We just involved ourselves far more as of WWII, and that means we're going to try to shape it in our image of what we think is best.
Yes it is arrogant, yes we'd love to be "hands off," but as with most people, we believe control is better than uncertainty.
 
poggy1 said:
I can laugh at myself and often do but there is humour and bad taste.I'm sorry but this falls under the latter.
I live in the England and do sometimes poke fun at other countries but it's usually in good taste like we took stick over losing to Northern Ireland at football recently.
But we tell Irish jokes so fairs fair.
This isn't because your trying to make fun of a problem and it's not funny as we all have them.
The whole US is a collection "bad taste" and "leftovers" and "what the world didn't want."
It's what makes us, ironically enough, "strong" -- so go ahead and make fun of us. ;)
 
My final remark will be that I find this thread very insulting and useless. It insults both Americans and Europeans. And to Vromos, my advice will be to think and to remember those who died for freeding his country from the nazis during WWII. Have recognition, gratitude and respect for those who saved your country and helped it militarily but also economically after WWII with the Marshall plan.
 
georges said:
My final remark will be that I find this thread very insulting and useless.
It insults both Americans and Europeans.
And to Vromos, my advice will be to think and to remember those who died for freeding his country from the nazis during WWII.
Have recognition, gratitude and respect for those who saved your country and helped it militarily but also economically after WWII with the Marshall plan.
Oh, keep everything in context.
No one is relating the sacrifices of Americans in WWI and WWII to this picture.

If someone said that the US only serves its own needs and no one else's, then yes, bring up WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam and now Iraq.
Yes, despite demonizations of all sorts of US actions, the reality is that we try our best to help at least select others, even if it's in our own image when we rebuild them.

The latter is what bothers me as an American.
The former has nothing to do with it.
 
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