Election 2008

[Direct328]

As far as Hillary and Obama go they basically seem the same on the issues. I really only see the major differences in two areas.

Health care.
Obama wants to make healthcare more affordable so anyone who wants healthcare can afford it but doesn't make you buy it. Hillary wants to make it more affordable but also wants to make sure everyone has it. While that is the ultimate goal that everyone would be covered, it'll also cost everyone even more in taxes and if you can't afford the mandatory government healthcare cost you'll get penalized or fined.


War/foreign policy.
Obama is willing to talk with people we oppose, opening up a dialogue that doesn't currently exist. I support us using diplomacy, one of the things that makes this country great. Obama was against the war from the very start which is a key judgment issue.

On the issue of experience. They will both have advisers and a cabinet filled with people that have experience on issues as well. Obama has some more street experience and state level legislature experience while Hillary of course has one more term of washington senate and the experience as first lady.

And this election is about who has the ability to bring us all together again. Stop the partisan politics and transcend this process to a higher level. I have a feeling Hillary already has a lot of people who won't even listen to her based on the past 16 years...that's where experience can hurt you. Just my opinion.

But I do like Hillary a lot, she's strong, and has done a lot of positive things. I just think Obama is the best option for the country right now, he's much more bipartisan and has inspired me as well as many others to get more involved in the election process than besides just voting. :nanner:

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[Legzman]

Ron Paul

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[titsrock]

Things are turning around for Obama....he's in a dead heat "nationally" with Billary.

I think Obama's going to take California and the lion's share of delegates tomorrow....There is something going on. He's making people re-think things...

 

[Friday on my mind]

Things are turning around for Obama....he's in a dead heat "nationally" with Billary.

I think Obama's going to take California and the lion's share of delegates tomorrow....There is something going on. He's making people re-think things...

Remember he was supposedly ahead of Hillary in NH by 8 points and lost.And they are not in a dead heat,he has narrowed the margin but she is still 4 or 5 points ahead nationally.I think Hillary will get the lions share of delegates tommorow.And you can't trust polls when it comes to Obama as was shown in NH.I won't say again why you can't trust polls on him as its not PC to say I guess.

 

[titsrock]

Remember he was supposedly ahead of Hillary in NH by 8 points and lost.And they are not in a dead heat,he has narrowed the margin but she is still 4 or 5 points ahead nationally.I think Hillary will get the lions share of delegates tommorow.And you can't trust polls when it comes to Obama as was shown in NH.I won't say again why you can't trust polls on him as its not PC to say I guess.

Friday....the West is not the Northeast. The polls are in a statistical "dead heat"..People are going to vote for Obama in droves...especially white Dems.

I don't think Obama will sweep...but he's going to become the frontrunner after tomorrow. Obama is also, at the moment, leading in the post-Super Tuesday primaries....

It looks like McNasty is opening up a big lead over MittMoney...will McCain royally clown Romney tomorrow??

 

[Jason z]

hope obama beats hillary tommorrow.. Obama '08

 

[Direct328]

Friday....the West is not the Northeast. The polls are in a statistical "dead heat"..People are going to vote for Obama in droves...especially white Dems.

I don't think Obama will sweep...but he's going to become the frontrunner after tomorrow. Obama is also, at the moment, leading in the post-Super Tuesday primaries....

It looks like McNasty is opening up a big lead over MittMoney...will McCain royally clown Romney tomorrow??

I'm an obama supporter and even with his supposedly big surge of late. I'd be surprised if he wins tomorrow as a whole. His campaign today even said that if they stay within 100 delegates it would be a huge victory. The question is can he stay close. Hillary has the advantage in most of the states tomorrow. He just needs to stay in striking distance. We'll see who shows up. If it's younger people, he'll definitely have an advantage.

And who knows on the McCain vs Romney, Romney has an ad every commercial break in Cali.

 

[titsrock]

I'm an obama supporter and even with his supposedly big surge of late. I'd be surprised if he wins tomorrow as a whole. His campaign today even said that if they stay within 100 delegates it would be a huge victory. The question is can he stay close. Hillary has the advantage in most of the states tomorrow. He just needs to stay in striking distance. We'll see who shows up. If it's younger people, he'll definitely have an advantage.

And who knows on the McCain vs Romney, Romney has an ad every commercial break in Cali.

I can understand if the Obama Campaign wants to "see it to believe it." I won't fault them for that.

Hillary seems to be coming across as an incredible phony today. Shedding more tears at Yale...talking about "change" in Massachusetts...

 

[Facetious]

I'm concerned about how impressionable Obama would be toward some of these "Dubai Ports" etc. type (infinite money bag) entities / operations that are certain to essentially further erode American soverignty.

IIRC, Didn't Obama's minister cast some lifetime award of achievment to Louis Farrakan ?

Really folks ! After this current administration, we can't have any slouch of a President, for we may **** up, one fine day, under the authority of ???

He's an engaging personality, no doubt. What else do we know about him, good or bad ?

Marketing compels . . . .once again.

:*****: *****, if you can.:shocked:

 

[Facetious]

oops !

 

[Direct328]

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[negator]

"it's the media, stupid"
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[Facetious]

"it's the media, stupid"

Yes it is. :hatsoff:

And a little bit of investment banker influence, if I may.

Interesting -

McCain and Romney are getting in the order of 300-600 times more media coverage than Dr Paul. The figure is so high because Dr Paul has such a low number. THERE IS A NEAR-TOTAL MEDIA ******** on Dr Paul's campaign. They've done this for the last year, but in particular the last three weeks, since he proved to be garnering enough support to be a threat. His support was rising, steadily, and the MSM have acted to cut it off, by starving him of the much-needed media attention.

Ron Paul got second-place in Nevada. Who knew? Ron Paul got second-place in Louisiana (though it may yet turn into a first place, which it should have been straight away, had it not been for GOP shenanigans). Who knew? Ron Paul picked up a close second, with 35% of the DELEGATES in Maine. Who knew?

Damn straight ! So very true :yesyes:

spin :spin: spin :spin: spin :spin:

 

[ninetysixcavy]

Yes it is.

And a little bit of investment banker influence, if I may.

Interesting -

Damn straight ! So very true :yesyes:

spin spin spin

It broke my heart to see what happened to him [RP] today. I think I already know why my parents don't bother to caucus for anyone, or why they probably haven't in decades. Also probably why only 30% of the public bothers to vote. Only so much of the media crud you can take before you really do begin to sit out. Why vote for someone the media shoves down our throat? :dunno:

"it's the media, stupid"
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He's so bad even the neo-con[victs] don't want anything to do with him:

Senator McCain's political record is full of zig-zags summarized in the word "maverick." That is another way of saying that you don't know what he is going to do next, except that it will be in the interests of John McCain.

While you are on the Internet looking up the record of the Clintons, look up John McCain's record, including the Keating Five, the McCain-Feingold bill, and the McCain-Kennedy immigration bill.

Senator McCain's trump card is his military experience. Some say his military experience is especially valuable when we are under threat from terrorists. But is it?

John McCain's military service was both honorable and heroic. But let's not confuse that with experience relevant to being President of the United States.

John McCain was a naval aviator, an important and demanding job. But a naval aviator is not like Patton or Eisenhower.

A naval aviator does not plan battlefield strategy, much less global military strategy, which a President must oversee, with the help of experienced generals and admirals.

Franklin D. Roosevelt was Assistant Secretary of the Navy in the First World War. But he depended on General George C. Marshall for military strategy in the Second World War.

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The most charitable interpretation of Senator McCain's constant touting of his military service is that he is simply milking it for political advantage.

It would be truly dangerous if McCain really considers himself a military expert, who can therefore ignore the advice of real military experts as President of the United States.

A man like McCain, with a history of being headstrong and shooting from the hip, is the last thing we need as President, in an age of complex global threats, including terrorists who may get nuclear weapons within the next few years.

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No worries...he's the best man for the job. CNN and FOX said so, right? :*****:

 

[bodie54]

McCain is going to be the Republican nominee, and I'm loving it, because it's a major repudiation of the neocons

What a joy to see **** mongers like Limbaugh and whores like Hannity wringing their desperate little hands over the ascention of McCain LOL

And so it seems there's hope that republicans have only been suffering from temporary, rather than permanent, insanity. I congratulate the millions of republicans who used their ballots to express an emphatic "fuck you" to the faction of their party that's so damaged this country the last eight years.

 

[Direct328]

I'm an obama supporter and even with his supposedly big surge of late. I'd be surprised if he wins tomorrow as a whole. His campaign today even said that if they stay within 100 delegates it would be a huge victory. The question is can he stay close. Hillary has the advantage in most of the states tomorrow. He just needs to stay in striking distance. We'll see who shows up. If it's younger people, he'll definitely have an advantage.

And who knows on the McCain vs Romney, Romney has an ad every commercial break in Cali.

Looks like that was a pretty good prediction. I was a bit more surprised that Obama won so many states, and California was a bit shocking with the spread for Hillary. Absentee votes definitely helped her, also I've heard rumors of the racially charged Asian and Latino community, but this was a bit shocking.

I have no clue how Romney or Huck stay in after tonight. But I bet they both will, just to spite each other, and that will just make Romney's pockets lighter. That West Virginia vote was hilarious how that started the day with some schoolyard politics.

 

[gunslingingbird]

Seeing that my candidate is not on the list, I'll go with any of the above except that ball-busting bitch. She's already run the White House for 8 years.

 

[negator]

McCain is going to be the Republican nominee, and I'm loving it, because it's a major repudiation of the neocons

What a joy to see **** mongers like Limbaugh and whores like Hannity wringing their desperate little hands over the ascention of McCain LOL

And so it seems there's hope that republicans have only been suffering from temporary, rather than permanent, insanity. I congratulate the millions of republicans who used their ballots to express an emphatic "fuck you" to the faction of their party that's so damaged this country the last eight years.

while i enjoy limbaugh and hannity suffering as much as the next guy, i see mccain as a continuation of the neocon Premium Link Upgrade . the choice of running-mate will be the acid-test of this theory, as i don't see mccain being able to control all bodily functions past the first term.

"my friends, it is with great reluctance that i step aside and cede the mantle of president to my good friend, DICK VAN COCK"

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[dick van cock]

"my friends, it is with great reluctance that i step aside and cede the mantle of president to my good friend, DICK VAN COCK"

Sorry, John! Unless you are willing to rewrite the Constitution, there is only one remedy for the greatest country in the entire universe.

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{... should Hillary become Presidentette, I'll immediately apply as an intern, though}

 

[tartanterrier]

Democratic Race Poses Challenge for Racists, Sexists
Nowhere to Turn, Disgruntled Haters Say

With the field for the Democratic presidential nomination narrowed to Senators Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton, racists and sexists are finding themselves in a quandary over which candidate to support, prominent racists and sexists confirmed today.

Across the U.S., voters who describe themselves as both racist and sexist complain that the two-person field, while touted by the media as history-making, is ******* them to ask a difficult question: which group do they **** more?

"I've always seen myself as pretty balanced, racist and sexist-wise," said Herb Torlinson, a hardware salesman from Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania. "But I guess this is going to be an election that really puts my different hates to the test."

Mr. Torlinson also chastised the media for celebrating the historic nature of the Democratic field: "Anyone who's happy about these two choices can't call himself a racist or a sexist."

At the Clapboard Corner Café in Youngstown, Ohio, a group of sexist bigots who gather for breakfast once a week echoed Mr. Torlinson's sentiments.

"I actually cried when John Edwards dropped out of the race," said David Colehurn, a disgruntled hater who works at a nearby Kinko's. "I can't believe that we don't have a regular person to vote for this year."

Mr. Colehurn said that his virulent racism and sexism were causing him to entertain thoughts of voting for a Republican, but added that he was "turned off" by Arizona Sen. John McCain: "I **** old people."

Elsewhere, after a new study revealed that cannabis causes gum disease, singer Amy Winehouse said, "That's why I'm sticking with crack."