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Edward Snowden: The Hegelian Dialectic

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xfire - I see you making some attempt, but again we really can't have much of a discussion untill you have watched all the materials and understand the full scope of the situation from different angles. If you don't care to do that then that is your prerogative. But I'm not going to repeatedly continue to explain things or have you questioning my sources when they are already provided.

Rey C Hannity - Similarly, If you want to have a discussion based on a full comprehension of all the materials provided then that's fine, if you don't care too then that's fine as well. But I'm not going to waste my energy debating nonsense...Either educate yourself or go take a nap, it's up to you. LOL
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
Rey C Hannity - Similarly, If you want to have a discussion based on a full comprehension of all the materials provided then that's fine, if you don't care too then that's fine as well. But I'm not going to waste my energy debating nonsense...Either educate yourself or go take a nap, it's up to you. LOL

Taking a nap would be greatly more productive than reading your confused, pseudo-intellectual gibberish, amico.
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
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Here's a relevant question for you, Zipperhead: how many times a day do you jerk off to the life-size poster of Eddie Snowden you surely have hanging over your bed? Do you imagine yourself in his arms, as you two poseurs discuss the Hegelian Dialectic?

P.S. I noticed that you avoided the question of your actual involvement in this issue away from this board. Like I said, trying to change the world (only) on the FreeOnes porn board. Now get that fuckin' shinebox and do something with my Rockports!
 

xfire

New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
Do you imagine yourself in his arms, as you two poseurs discuss the Hegelian Dialectic?

I'm still a little confused about how a Hegelian dialectic has anything to do with Snowden, and why not instead title the thread, "Snowden Hears a Who", makes about as much sense.
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
I'm still a little confused about how a Hegelian dialectic has anything to do with Snowden, and why not instead title the thread, "Snowden Hears a Who", makes about as much sense.

I agree. But that wouldn't sound as nearly cool for our resident pseudo-intellectual egghead, wannabe 007. Pretty sad actually, when you realize that Eddie Snowden is the "man" that Eric wishes he could be. There's some serious bromance of awesome goin' on here! :lovebunny:

And for his next trick, he's going to pull a gerbil out of his ass and rewrite the Constitution while singing On the Good Ship Lollipop.
 

xfire

New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
Snowden Hears a Who

I agree. But that wouldn't sound as nearly cool for our resident pseudo-intellectual egghead, wannabe 007. Pretty sad actually, when you realize that Eddie Snowden is the "man" that Eric wishes he could be. There's some serious bromance of awesome goin' on here! :lovebunny:

And for his next trick, he's going to pull a gerbil out of his ass and rewrite the Constitution while singing On the Good Ship Lollipop.

Eric reminds me of the pedant in Intro to Philosophy that argues with the professor over minutia no one gives a shit about just to make himself feel like a big man on campus. I hope he tries to impress us with some more ill-appropriated academese.
 
I'm still a little confused...


You are WAY passed confused, more just stuck on stupid...all you are questions are already answered in this thread...but don't worry about any of that...I can tell it's all beyond you so don't bother with it...it'll just give you a headache LOL

You and Rey Hannity O'Reilly are doing great ! You two stooges keep it up with the dumbness, I enjoy watching you cowardly little retard punks engage in whatever pathetic antics your little feeble minds can come up with to fuck off your spare time...

I'll be back later this evenning to check on you comic relief clowns LOL
 

xfire

New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
Snowden Hears a Who

You are WAY passed confused, more just stuck on stupid...all you are questions are already answered in this thread...but don't worry about any of that...I can tell it's all beyond you so don't bother with it...it'll just give you a headache LOL

You and Rey Hannity O'Reilly are doing great ! You two stooges keep it up with the dumbness, I enjoy watching you cowardly little retard punks engage in whatever pathetic antics your little feeble minds can come up with to fuck off your spare time...

I'll be back later this evenning to check on you comic relief clowns LOL

Impress us with some more of your confused verbiage.
 
You are WAY passed confused, more just stuck on stupid...all you are questions are already answered in this thread...but don't worry about any of that...I can tell it's all beyond you so don't bother with it...it'll just give you a headache LOL

You and Rey Hannity O'Reilly are doing great ! You two stooges keep it up with the dumbness, I enjoy watching you cowardly little retard punks engage in whatever pathetic antics your little feeble minds can come up with to fuck off your spare time...

I'll be back later this evenning to check on you comic relief clowns LOL

Xfire, as my Garmin says, "You have arrived". When you get hit from the left and the right, you know you're doing something right.
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
Re: Snowden Hears a Who

Eric reminds me of the pedant in Intro to Philosophy that argues with the professor over minutia no one gives a shit about just to make himself feel like a big man on campus. I hope he tries to impress us with some more ill-appropriated academese.

Right. Right. And for some reason, he keeps dancing away from the question of what *he* believes should be done about this issue. I think twice now I've asked him what his outside involvement is in this issue. Who has he met with, who has the power or influence to address the situation? What specific actions is he suggesting? So looking at his inability to express himself clearly, even though he keeps telling us to stop looking at titties and talk to him instead, why should we? Seriously. He's got nothing! It's like he wants us to listen to him and then join some sort of little cult of fools he's forming, but he forgot to bring the application forms to the meeting. He can't convince anyone here to take him seriously, so you know that no one above the level of janitor in a Congressional office is going to give him the time of day.
 

xfire

New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
Balancing national security with the public's need-to-know has always been a tricky proposition. Compromising national security for any reason is a traitorous act. I don't find any logic in screaming foul at the people trying to keep us safe. In case eric has forgotten, and it's easy to forget considering how long we've been at it, we're still actively engaged in an ongoing global War on Terror. Imagine if Snowden had pulled this shit during World War II, he would have faced a firing squad or got his neck stretched. People need to quit taking for granted the freedoms we enjoy, and the price it costs to maintain those freedoms.
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
Balancing national security with the public's need-to-know has always been a tricky proposition. Compromising national security for any reason is a traitorous act. I don't find any logic in screaming foul at the people trying to keep us safe. In case eric has forgotten, and it's easy to forget considering how long we've been at it, we're still actively in engaged in an ongoing global War on Terror. Imagine if Snowden had pulled this shit during World War II, he would have faced a firing squad or got his neck stretched. People need to quit taking for granted the freedoms we enjoy, and the price it costs to maintain those freedoms.

^^^ I totally agree. While I never supported the Patriot Act and many other measures, I do realize that it is a fine balancing act, as you say. Eric seems to be one of these theoretical, egghead types, who believes that if things aren't going the way he wants them to, he should be able to do what he pleases (like commit espionage). But *he* isn't going to actually do anything. He's just going to talk about it.
 

xfire

New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
Snowden Hears a Who

I authored and co-authored several studies and papers against the Patriot Act when it was first passed. I still oppose it, but I understand that it's current law and while I'll be right there cheering if it's ever struck down I'm not going to hold my breath until it is. Snowden is facing several felony charges. If he feels he's innocent he should come face the charges. I know what he did was wrong, like it or not, and they would have to come find me and drag my ass back to face the charges, and I have no doubt that he knows what he did was wrong, too. eric can pretend he would take the same stance that Snowden took, but we're not seeing his ass on the run. Snowden and eric, obviously too brilliant motherfuckers that refuse to tell the world how to fix the problem. A problem that's so ingrained and only getting worse that it's going to be the end of freedom and life as we know it. What a selfish couple.
 
If you had watched all the videos then you would know that there are many things that people are doing everyday to fight what's going on, but like I have already said, people aren't united, there is too much divide and conquer, and decisions being made based on fear and ignorance.. People must unite, study the history and methodology of fascism, and combat it whenever and wherever possible within the law. I already posted a video that shows who is for PRISM, who is for the Patriot Act, the FISA Act etc., whatever they say their reasons are for supporting these things, they are lying, they are your enemy. They belong to secret socities with a whole different agenda. Unite under the Constitution, don't loose focus, and don't cease to fight untill the laws that put you in peril are changed.

Don't let yourself be controlled by fascist fear tactics. Security is an excuse fascists use to infiltrate and overthrow countries. They infiltrate the government, set-up or facilitate a "terrible" highly publicized bombing or other event, and then they say they have to take away your civil rights to protect you from the threat they created.

The majority of terrorist and domestic criminals are created and facilitated by the US government for it's own purposes. Under NO circumstances should any Constitutional civil liberties EVER be compromised in any way to fight crime. Investigate and fight crime under the Constitution. There is always going to be bombings or terrorist attacks, if some people get killed then mourn then, get over it, and get back to the business of life.

The WTC was a fascist plot that worked in getting American citizens to over re-act and give up civil liberties because the US is a very young and naive country that easily fell for fascist tricks that many older countries have been thru and survived, and thus now know how to identify and weed out the secret agendas of fasicist forces in the forms of secret societies, satanists, etc.

America is in the midst of a textbook fascist takeover. The framework was introduced by legislation such as the FISA Act in 1978, then 9/11 and the Patriot Act. But you can not turn a free people into fascist slaves overnight, just like you can not easily, if at all, domesticate an animal that has been raised in the wild. It takes years of conditioning to prepare a free people to accept slavery. This is the process that has been going on for last 20 years, and the culmination will be a police state, a redistribution of wealth i.e Americans will be looted and exterminated as were the Jews.

The FEMA internment concentration camps have already been built under Bush, the critical 4th amendment has been suspended to pave the way for un checked government searches and siezures. Snowden was part of the information system, in that the NSA can use info from your whole life to label whomever they please as a threat, get rubber-stamp approval from a FISA court, serve you a secert warrant that you can't fight, take all your shit, take you to an internment camp, and then exterminate you. This is called a radical and aggressive re-distribution of wealth.

The laws are already in place for most of the above to take place. All that's necessary now is the right political climate.

There are really only two things people can do...People need to be EXTREMELY concerned, vocal and pro-active right now while you can, and be uniform in recognizing fascist methodology, and making sure that all fascist legislation is eradicated. The second thing you can do is leave before the hammer drops, if you can.


 

xfire

New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
they are your enemy.

They belong to secret socities with a whole different agenda.

They infiltrate the government, set-up or facilitate a "terrible" highly publicized bombing or other event, and then they say they have to take away your civil rights to protect you from the threat they created.

The majority of terrorist and domestic criminals are created and facilitated by the US government for it's own purposes. The WTC was a fascist plot

fasicist forces in the forms of secret societies, satanists, etc.

America is in the midst of a textbook fascist takeover. The framework was introduced by legislation such as the FISA Act in 1978, then 9/11 and the Patriot Act. But you can not turn a free people into fascist slaves overnight, just like you can not easily, if at all, domesticate an animal that has been raised in the wild. It takes years of conditioning to prepare a free people to accept slavery. This is the process that has been going on for last 20 years, and the culmination will be a police state, a redistribution of wealth i.e Americans will be looted and exterminated as were the Jews.

The FEMA internment concentration camps have already been built under Bush, the critical 4th amendment has been suspended to pave the way for un checked government searches and siezures. Snowden was part of the information system, in that the NSA can use info from your whole life to label whomever they please as a threat, get rubber-stamp approval from a FISA court, serve you a secert warrant that you can't fight, take all your shit, take you to an internment camp, and then exterminate you. This is called a radical and aggressive re-distribution of wealth.

The laws are already in place for most of the above to take place. All that's necessary now is the right political climate.

There are really only two things people can do...People need to be EXTREMELY concerned, vocal and pro-active right now while you can, and be uniform in recognizing fascist methodology, and making sure that all fascist legislation is eradicated. The second thing you can do is leave before the hammer drops, if you can.

Wow. Stop listening to Alex Jones and seek professional help.
 
The last thing you can do is not be a fucking coward sellout. A fascist system cannot be set up and operated without collusion of the citizens. There are millions of should-be Snowdens out there, but who are selling their souls ,and the souls and futures of their children, away for a few pennies.

When this is no longer the character of Americans, then the US may have a chance.

 

xfire

New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
The last thing you can do is not be a fucking coward sellout. A fascist system cannot be set up and operated without collusion of the citizens. There are millions of should-be Snowdens out there, but who are selling their souls ,and the souls and futures of their children, away for a few pennies.

When this is no longer the character of Americans, then the US may have a chance.

Ok, I'm still on the fence about this.

 
Fasicist Forces in the form of Satanists

Satanism is the idealogical basis of the corporate military complex and is increasingly prevalent in every facet of todays american society.

Satanisim is the root of fascism. Notice how in this forum, many people enjoy attacking Christianity and the concept of God, but no one attacks Satanism or the worship of Satan. Why ? Because Americans have been increasingly conditioned to accept the teaching of Satan over God.

The core principle of Satanism is "Death To the weakling, All wealth to the strong" http://www.dpjs.co.uk/bookofsatan1.1-4.html...This is why, for Americans, quotes like Gorden Geckko's "Greed is Good" now superceede in importance the antipodal fundamental core tenets of Christianity that Greed is one of the Seven Deadly Sins, and is the "root of all Evil" ...First Epistle to Timothy in the New Testament (1 Timothy 6:10), starts "For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil"; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_of_all_evil

This is of fundamental importance, because once greed becomes your ultimate guiding principle, then doing anything and everything to anybody, including genocide, solely for the purpose of accumulating more wealth and power, is now justified.

If you research NSA/military people like Michael Aquino, the overt influence of Satanism has become increasingly present since the 1960's, closely related to Fort Bragg and the location and development of MK-Ultra technology which Aquino oversaw and helped create.



 
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