'Duck Dynasty' Star Phil Robertson Suspended From Show

[Philbert]

Yeah, but you only say that 'cause you share a personality with Martin Bashir...while Papa Robertson merely spoke in biblical terms about sin...of which cornholing is definitely one of them critters.
Here we go again...Deja Moo. You say the same bullshit over and over again.

"Free speech is free speech"...brilliant synopsis !
"Neither case is a First Amendment issue"...no, wait...that's a brilliant synopsis!
"neither of them were locked up for what they said. "...When are you gonna pick one theme...? So, it's just fine to step up in a crowded airplane and shout "BOMB!"? If it's against the law, that's government repression of Free Speech, protected by the Constitution! At least that's your theory...
Anyway, A&E claims to support the LGBT cause, and the Robertsons are F'ing rich...so they are telling A&E they can suck various parts of their anatomy as we speak...and they will be on some network somewhere right away. A&E will probably suck those parts right way, however, and apologize abjectly.
Walmart has cleaned out their shelves of Duck ****, big money; people are giving GLAAD a raft of hard time (Libs, Gays, Everyone!), and the PC buttheads are getting the backlash bigtime.
Meanwhile, Misfire the Clown keeps on looking for something to say (of his own, not the usual cut n paste) that sounds good...but...Deja Moo!

 

[lurkingdirk]

Philbert, I really don't have any idea what you're upset about. xfire just defended free speech, and you're butthurt about what? Can you clarify your objection?

 

[Will E Worm]

A&E knew what they were getting when they signed these guys. They're really religious folks and so it was just a matter of time before this issue came up. They already wrapped up filming for the next season so he'll be back in a couple of weeks once this dies down. It's just A&E doing damage control and that's about it.

:goodpost:

 

[Maggie Green]

I would pay money to be able to defecate in Sarah Palin's mouth. I'm sure I could make a ton of money from it : )

 

[Will E Worm]

I would pay money to be able to defecate in Sarah Palin's mouth. I'm sure I could make a ton of money from it : )

 

[BigLoadPeter]

I don't think anything he said was that offensive especially considering the source. The guy is a reality TV show *********. Should we get worked up over things that are said on Jersey Shore? Meanwhile we've got some serious issues that actually impact our daily lives in a negative way like health care, the economy, crime, and tiny things like nuclear proliferation. A&E will likely let him back on the show after some LBGT educational apology deal and increase their viewership over the whole scandal anyways. I mean let's be honest open homosexuals only make up about 1% of the US population they're not that much of an economic powerhouse and at the end of the day these things are always about money.

 

[Straight Shooter]

Are you seriously going to compare Phil's comments to Martin Bashir saying someone should defecate in Sarah Palin's mouth???? Really????? The two are no where near in the same atmosphere. Martin Bashir's statements were full of **** and vitriol. Phil's comments had no **** in them whatsover. All he did was list a series of sins. Get a grip.

That's irrelevant. If it's free speech for Roberston, it's free speech for Bashir. You can't have it both ways

 

[Rey C.]

I don't watch reality TV. I think it's the worst thing to happen to commercial television in the history of commercial television. And the plethora of reality TV shows is the primary reason that I'm going to cancel my DirecTV subscription when my contract is up next year (after almost 20 years as a subscriber). I feel like I'm paying $100/month +/- to subsidize a bunch of **** shows on **** channels that I wouldn't watch even if you held a *** to my head. As soon as I find a way to get my F1 races live, I'm somewhat "cutting the cord". I figure for what I want to watch, I can get away with spending no more than $30-$40/month, between streaming services and basic HD cable (at the most). If we can ever get the cable/satellite industry mafia broken up and can receive live a la carte programming through iTunes or some other source, I wouldn't even need basic HD cable. Reality TV (Kartrashians, The Joysey Guidos, Real House Whores of Where Ever, Honey Retard, Pawn Goofs, Silly Sarah's Alaska, Duck Fuckers and ALL the others) is dragging down the collective IQ of the TV viewing nation, if you ask me.

As far as this redneck guy, I don't know (or really care) who he is. From what little I know of him, I don't see why anybody is surprised that he has the views that he has expressed though. But as far as I know, he said something that was unpopular and caused his employer to come under scrutiny. So he lost his job. And this surprises him and his supporters? :dunno: His right to say what he said was not infringed upon by the government. So no, it is not a free speech issue at all. If I said something unpopular in a public forum, it's likely that I would also lose my job, because my company would want to distance itself from me. That was in the employment contract that I signed last year. So if I committed a crime or said something out of the way in public (and it got tied back to the company), I'd be out he door. Only if some government agency came down on the company for something I said could it be considered a free speech issue. But unlike this guy and his ******, I try to comprehend what it is that I'm signing and if I did something goofy, I wouldn't be shocked or surprised at losing my job.

But with that said, on the flip side, if this guy had made the same type of comments about a less "socially protected" group, I doubt he would have been fired or even sanctioned. I know that Bill Maher takes every opportunity to make hateful, bigoted comments about Christians and yet he remains very popular. But Maher (and most other TV talking heads) understands the game and knows who it's OK to take cheap shots at and who it's not OK to do that with. I don't say this to take sides or even make a point about sexual preferences, religion or anything else really. But I am saying that there is a fair amount of hypocrisy when it comes to what is (these days) considered to be acceptable/politically correct speech and what is not. But still, this is not a free speech issue. It is (IMO) an employer/employee issue. And those who tend to be on the right (especially the far right) now find themselves also being hypocritical if they say that an employer does not have the right to maintain employment at will. So now, do you folks on the right want the courts (the government) to step in and ***** A&E(?) to continue employing this character? What do you think should happen here? I'm a bit confused.

 

[bahodeme]

The one is they are already wealthy due to the patent of their duck call, so they really could care less about a show. Those that buy the duck calls aren't going to stop buying them. A & E will find another group to give their 15 minutes of fame (or shame). It's really a nonconcern for both groups. Plus is what he said really a surprise to anyone??

 

[Whit]

The one is they are already wealthy due to the patent of their duck call, so they really could care less about a show. Those that buy the duck calls aren't going to stop buying them. A & E will find another group to give their 15 minutes of fame (or shame). It's really a nonconcern for both groups. Plus is what he said really a surprise to anyone??

They make ten times the money from the show and the merchandise than they did from the duck calls. They even pretend to still make them. They are a totally fake show, they have been trying to get into reality TV for a long time.

 

[Philbert]

Philbert, I really don't have any idea what you're upset about. xfire just defended free speech, and you're butthurt about what? Can you clarify your objection?

I don't get what it is you're upset about...I'm more amused by the clown than anything else, so you lost the thread again.

But he does need someone to watch out for him, he has scant debate skills and almost no grasp of issues or how to express a clear idea.
You should be able to do something for Misfire, as long as you can avoid taking the easy path, like you did in the Jesus and Santa etc thread.

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[lurkingdirk]

I'm not upset, I was asking you to clarify your comments, that all.

I may be a little upset now, though. Haven't really decided yet.

 

[wite]

Hillbilly and redneck is not a racist slur. If your a pro wrestling fan, they use those words a lot. Every pro wrestling event that's in the south a heel (bad guy) wrestler will call fans rednecks and hillbillies.

 

[Philbert]

Hillbilly and redneck is not a racist slur. If your a pro wrestling fan, they use those words a lot. Every pro wrestling event that's in the south a heel (bad guy) wrestler will call fans rednecks and hillbillies.

And every group of Black men chatting say "That n***** got too high and wrecked his boss's truck", or "I ain't lying to ya, you my n*****, dog." Most every Black comedian and EVERY rapper freely uses N*****...
Are you REALLY claiming N***** isn't a racial slur...and the PC POLICE don't twist up into a butthurt ball of indignation if anyone but a Black man uses it?
Same with Hillbilly and redneck...it's a racist slur, used by white Libbies and all minorities along with cracker and other specific slurs referring to White folks.
Ever hear any pro wrestler use the word "N*****"?
I remember Mariah loved to use those as insults, FOs usual gang of Libbie idiots all use them to diss any white person's attitude they don't like...to them conservative and hillbilly/redneck are interchangeable.
Ever hear anyone refer to a black or Hispanic as a Redneck or a hillbilly? Yet they live in numbers in the same areas the white folks that get saddled with the terms live.
Racist self haters or just plain Libtards...it's a slander of Whites only.

 

[RASQ]

And every group of Black men chatting say "That n***** got too high and wrecked his boss's truck", or "I ain't lying to ya, you my n*****, dog." Most every Black comedian and EVERY rapper freely uses N*****...
Are you REALLY claiming N***** isn't a racial slur...and the PC POLICE don't twist up into a butthurt ball of indignation if anyone but a Black man uses it?
Same with Hillbilly and redneck...it's a racist slur, used by white Libbies and all minorities along with cracker and other specific slurs referring to White folks.
Ever hear any pro wrestler use the word "N*****"?
I remember Mariah loved to use those as insults, FOs usual gang of Libbie idiots all use them to diss any white person's attitude they don't like...to them conservative and hillbilly/redneck are interchangeable.
Ever hear anyone refer to a black or Hispanic as a Redneck or a hillbilly? Yet they live in numbers in the same areas the white folks that get saddled with the terms live.
Racist self haters or just plain Libtards...it's a slander of Whites only.

Hillbilly and Redneck aren't racial slurs otherwise the board would automatically change them to ******** like it does to N*****

 

[Deepcover]

And every group of Black men chatting say "That n***** got too high and wrecked his boss's truck", or "I ain't lying to ya, you my n*****, dog." Most every Black comedian and EVERY rapper freely uses N*****...

So why does that bother you? It's their conversation it's not like the conversation has anything to do with you so why get upset about it?
That's like you getting mad whenever you hear two hot chicks at the strip club talking to each other when they use the words "B@s*h" and "Cu!t" in their convo and yet their conversation most likely had nothing to do with you yet, you get so pissed off and offended. Do you need an *****? Like seriously lol

I don't even know or care how you feel about the DD controversy but you sure play the mocking game to a tee sadly....Very sadly

 

[darthtexan]

Free speech is free speech, what's good for Phil Robertson is good for Martin Bashir, if you support one and not the other you don't truly support "free speech". Neither case is a First Amendment issue, anyway, neither of them were locked up for what they said.

No Im sorry. Some speech is worthy of termination. Some speech clearly is not. Reasonable people can agree on what speech is worthy of termination. If Phil had said something along the lines of "God hates gays, gays must die", that would be analogous to what Martin Bashir said about Sarah Palin. If you honestly cant see the difference I think you are in a serious world of hurt. Context, venue, and what you are saying matters a lot. Martin Bashir was the host of a major political commentary show, and said that something vile and disgusting and dehumanizing should occur to another human being on that show. Phil is the star of a reality tv show, and he basically said that homosexual behavior was sinful in a GQ article, and he was saying it in response to a question. He was paraphrasing scripture.

And actually, since Bashir apologized and because it sounded like a real apology, I was willing to allow him to stay. And I didnt think Alec Baldwin should have been fired either, since (if Im not mistaken) his anti - gay slur did not occur on his show.

 

[xfire]

No Im sorry. Some speech is worthy of termination. Some speech clearly is not. Reasonable people can agree on what speech is worthy of termination. If Phil had said something along the lines of "God hates gays, gays must die", that would be analogous to what Martin Bashir said about Sarah Palin. If you honestly cant see the difference I think you are in a serious world of hurt. Context, venue, and what you are saying matters a lot. Martin Bashir was the host of a major political commentary show, and said that something vile and disgusting and dehumanizing should occur to another human being on that show. Phil is the star of a reality tv show, and he basically said that homosexual behavior was sinful in a GQ article, and he was saying it in response to a question. He was paraphrasing scripture.

And actually, since Bashir apologized and because it sounded like a real apology, I was willing to allow him to stay. And I didnt think Alec Baldwin should have been fired either, since (if Im not mistaken) his anti - gay slur did not occur on his show.

I don't think Phil should have been fired, suspended, whatever. I don't think Bashir or Baldwin should have been fired, suspended, whatever, either. If you think I was taking sides with one over the other that was your mistake in assumption. However, A&E are well within their rights to fire Robertson, just as MSNBC within theirs to be rid of Baldwin and Bashir, doesn't mean I think any of the firings were just. Here's a question that ran a conservative friend of mine off in a different venue; do you support states that have work-at-will laws? I don't know if he just didn't see the question or if he didn't have an answer for it because he's usually not the type to run away from a question, but at the same time, he doesn't miss many, either.

 

[Maggie Green]

I don't see how hillbilly and rednecks are racial slurs. I know plenty of people here in Michigan who refer to themselves as rednecks or hillbillies and would never get offended by it. And yes, there ARE rednecks who aren't white. I went to school with several of them. Has nothing to do with race but with the culture. If someone calls you a hillbilly and you get offended, maybe it's because you are one yet you wish that you weren't so it hurts. Otherwise, it doesn't make sense to me.

 

[Maggie Green]

They make ten times the money from the show and the merchandise than they did from the duck calls. They even pretend to still make them. They are a totally fake show, they have been trying to get into reality TV for a long time.

Every "reality" TV show is fake and very scripted. I have friends who have worked sound and camera on many of them and it's all bullshit. And then you factor in the editing and it's anything but reality. People like to watch train wrecks these days, why else would we have shows about hillbilly handfishing...

Hey wait..if hillbilly was truly an offensive term , would there be a show called Hillbilly Handfishing? I think not.

Anyway, we put people who are different, a little bit crazy, odd, strange, etc on television, give them their own show and make them think they are a "star"...when we really mock, ridicule, gawk and laugh at them. I don't know anyone who watches The Real Housewives because it's good, educational and riveting television. We watch them to roll our eyes, judge them and imagine we were rich and think of all the ways that we are better people than they are. I can honestly say that I don't watch any of this stuff, I admit to watching a few episodes of Honey Boo Boo when it first came out. I did it mostly because of the pet pig because I want one someday but then I realized that this was very very wrong...watching a chubby small girl and her farting/burping ****** and laughing at them for my pleasure. I felt weird about it, I don't care if they pay these people well, I truly do not think some of them understand that they are really just the butt of our jokes and not big "stars". I guess my point is that we put these people on TV and then when they do or say something that perpetuates their stereotype, people are shocked and surprised. What else do you expect? If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck... pun intended here : )