Chemtrails : Aluminum & Other Poisons Falling From The Sky

[eric2136]

If you in any way seek to challenge the credential or observations of Chris Croce as an environmental advocate or journalist, than you would need to provide proof in the form of a better evidence or source indicating definitively that humans would not breath and/or be exposed to millions of tons of aluminum sprayed into the air, and that the aluminum, which is heavier than air and does not dissipate in the atmosphere, would some how just magically float around at a specific altitude forever and ever and never fall back to earth LOL …Wow Bob, I know you are in major league idiotic denial, but even YOU can't be THAT stupid…LOL


"...My major concern is that there is evidence that they are spraying tons of Nanosized Aluminum Compounds. It has been demonstrated in the scientific and medical literature that Nanosized Particles are infinitely more reactive and induce intense inflammation in a number of tissues. Of special concern is the effect of these nanoparticles on the brain and spinal cord, as a growing list of neurodegenerative diseases, including Alzheimer’s Dementia, Parkinson’s Disease, and Lou Gehrig’s disease (ALS) are strongly related to exposure to environmental Aluminum."

The intranasal route of exposure makes spraying of massive amounts of nanoaluminum into the skies especially hazardous, as it will be inhaled by people of all ages, including babies and small children for many hours. We know that older people have the greatest reaction to this airborne aluminum. Because of the nanosizing of the aluminum particles being used, home-filtering systems will not remove the aluminum, thus prolonging exposure, even indoors…"

DOCTORS WARNING ABOUT THE NANO-ALUMINUM FOUND IN THE CHEMICAL FALL OUT FROM SRM AND SAG GEOENGINEERING
Russell L. Blaylock, M.D.

"The Case Orange Report goes on to say what continued long-term effects of those chemical fumes and/or mists have on human health. This is the most direct evidence possible of the danger of chemtrails. "The aerosol trails contain particles that linger for hours, get dispersed by the wind and eventually fall to the earth."
http://www.examiner.com/article/weat...pening-the-sky

The links post to articles written by activist, with no scientific credentials, on the Internet, just as mentioned in the Belfort Report. You are running in circles here. Could you please post where your 2 quoted paragraphs came from?

 

[eric2136]

Re: Chemtrails : Aluminum & Other Poisons Falling From The Sky

The videos in post #8, the first of which was conducted at the UMass School of Law are from 2011, 2012, and 2013 you fucking idiot…so yet again,,,GET a clue and stop wasting my time with your remedial dumbness. LOL

"as evidenced by the myriad of even more recent sources presented in this thread."

And then you post shit from 2009. You are losing your traction here. Slide on the ice till you fall on your ass.

 

[bobjustbob]

Oh, are you talking about the drinking water in Mt. Shasta, the finest drinking water in the world? Yea, that video. Once more your claim that chemtrails can be spotted in the air with positive identification and poisoning us is a hunk of shit.

 

[eric2136]

LOL Boy you really ARE an idiot…the finest drinking water in the world, huh,,,,lol what a fucking moron lololol

Oh, are you talking about the drinking water in Mt. Shasta, the finest drinking water in the world? Yea, that video. Once more your claim that chemtrails can be spotted in the air with positive identification and poisoning us is a hunk of shit.

 

[bobjustbob]

This is like shooting fish in a barrel.


The primary water source for the City of Mt. Shasta is Cold Creek Springs, located at an elevation of 4,400 feet on Mt. Shasta. The springs produce around 2,000 gallons per minute of the purest, unfiltered and untreated water in the nation. In fact, the City of Mt. Shasta's drinking water is the 2006 and 2008 winner of the California Rural Water Association's Best Tasting Drinking Water in California Award. The City of Mt. Shasta also earned 3rd place in the 2007 Great American Water Taste Test, a national competition held annually in Washington D.C. Others may boast about having the best drinking water, but the City of Mt. Shasta has the awards to prove it!

UPDATE: The City of Mt. Shasta placed first in the 2010 Best Tasting Drinking Water in California competition at this year's CRWA conference in Lake Tahoe.

City of Mt. Shasta's Best Tasting Water Awards From left to right: 2008, 2010, 2007 & 2006

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

Re: Chemtrails : Aluminum & Other Poisons Falling From The Sky

Tinhat thread of the year.

 

[eric2136]

Boy you are a reeeealll dumb one aren't you…assuming you had some sort of credible sources to back up your assertions, what the flying fuck does how the water tastes have to do with the amount of Aluminum Oxide and other tasteless toxic particles in the water…the toxicity of the water has nothing to do with the taste you fucking moron…For Christ sakes, at least do some relevant research before you come in here dumbass...

Some people think McDonalds and KFC taste good…so does that mean that it is healthy to eat ? Jesus, you are so stupid ...I'm starting to just feel sorry for you now…LOL

Not to mention every date you provide preceedes the date of the Evidentiary Conference video that you are so feebly trying to refute.*

Poor ole' Bob..still pissing into the wind as usual... lololol

This is like shooting fish in a barrel.


The primary water source for the City of Mt. Shasta is Cold Creek Springs, located at an elevation of 4,400 feet on Mt. Shasta. The springs produce around 2,000 gallons per minute of the purest, unfiltered and untreated water in the nation. In fact, the City of Mt. Shasta's drinking water is the 2006 and 2008 winner of the California Rural Water Association's Best Tasting Drinking Water in California Award. The City of Mt. Shasta also earned 3rd place in the 2007 Great American Water Taste Test, a national competition held annually in Washington D.C. Others may boast about having the best drinking water, but the City of Mt. Shasta has the awards to prove it!

UPDATE: The City of Mt. Shasta placed first in the 2010 Best Tasting Drinking Water in California competition at this year's CRWA conference in Lake Tahoe.

City of Mt. Shasta's Best Tasting Water Awards From left to right: 2008, 2010, 2007 & 2006

 

[bobjustbob]

Credible sources? There's a picture of the awards with the names on them.

Do I have to do all of your homework for you? Francis Mangels (named in your video) did his testing while the city water was winning awards. Who got the awards? The Mt. Shasta Department of Public Works. All water provided to citizens in California is tested and certified at least once per year by the State Department of Health. That's how permits are renewed. Note that Mt. Shasta's water is unfiltered and untreated to boot.

Mt. Shasta water: Tested, tasted, and untreated. Proof supplied. Do you need help with your algebra homework now?

 

[eric2136]

LOL the water being untreated and unfiltered would support my argument more than anything Bob. I'm not going to even debate regarding any ridiculous "Taste Test Awards" or in general regarding wether the taste of the water has anything to do with the presence of toxic particles, or nano particles, within the water because it's just too stupid…

If you have any findings, which we both no you don't, that directly refute the findings of particles and/or nano particles of Aluminum Oxide at the levels indicated, than provide it, and stop being an idiot pathetically trying to make this ridiculous irrelevant argument about how you think the water tastes has anything to do with Aluminum Oxide concentration levels. The two issues are unrelated dummy.

Credible sources? There's a picture of the awards with the names on them.

Do I have to do all of your homework for you? Francis Mangels (named in your video) did his testing while the city water was winning awards. Who got the awards? The Mt. Shasta Department of Public Works. All water provided to citizens in California is tested and certified at least once per year by the State Department of Health. That's how permits are renewed. Note that Mt. Shasta's water is unfiltered and untreated to boot.

Mt. Shasta water: Tested, tasted, and untreated. Proof supplied. Do you need help with your algebra homework now?

 

[bobjustbob]

Re: Chemtrails : Aluminum & Other Poisons Falling From The Sky

"All water provided to citizens in California is tested and certified at least once per year by the State Department of Health. That's how permits are renewed."

Did you not read that? If the water needed to be filtered and treated then the state would make them do that. The water has and continues to be tested pure and clean and usable from the source.

 

[Jagger69]

I almost hate to get involved in this but, having spent my entire career in the water purification industry, I would advise testing your water for aluminum if you are concerned about the possibility of it being present for whatever reason or by whatever means, either sinister or incidental. Hach, Taylor & LaMotte all make kits for about $100 that can determine if your water contains aluminum. They also make kits that can determine levels of almost any metal you wish (I do not work for any of those companies but I can attest to their reputations for veracity).

Of much greater concern for me concerning tap water and local municipality regulations is the increasing use of chloramine as an approved disinfectant (by the EPA no less). Although it is true that chloramine will kill waterborne pathogens (not as effectively as free chlorine however), by-products produced from the oxidation process that takes place with chloramine can result in the formation of some extremely hazardous (even carcinogenic) chemcials (Tri-halomethanes (THMs) and Haloacetic Acids (HAAs)).

There are a number of ways to deal with THMs and HAAs in tap water. Most faucet-installed or under-the-sink water purifiers will remove these toxins (check the label to make sure....the good ones will proudly state that they eliminate these chemicals). You can also install an ozone system that will destroy the precursors to these poisons and prevent them from being produced regardless of the disinfectant being used. As we move forward into this century, the availability of clean, pure and healthy water will continue to be a primary concern, both here in the USA and internationally.

Anyway....sorry to hijack the thread. I just thought it was important to interject this concern. Read more about chloramine and chloraminated water here:

http://www.chloramine.org/

 

[feller469]

I likes it when da miker wave machine gets that blue lightning bolt agoin' when I boils the water for the babies' bottles

 

[eric2136]

I almost hate to get involved in this but, having spent my entire career in the water purification industry, I would advise testing your water for aluminum if you are concerned about the possibility of it being present for whatever reason or by whatever means, either sinister or incidental. Hach, Taylor & LaMotte all make kits for about $100 that can determine if your water contains aluminum. They also make kits that can determine levels of almost any metal you wish (I do not work for any of those companies but I can attest to their reputations for veracity).

Of much greater concern for me concerning tap water and local municipality regulations is the increasing use of chloramine as an approved disinfectant (by the EPA no less). Although it is true that chloramine will kill waterborne pathogens (not as effectively as free chlorine however), by-products produced from the oxidation process that takes place with chloramine can result in the formation of some extremely hazardous (even carcinogenic) chemcials (Tri-halomethanes (THMs) and Haloacetic Acids (HAAs)).

There are a number of ways to deal with THMs and HAAs in tap water. Most faucet-installed or under-the-sink water purifiers will remove these toxins (check the label to make sure....the good ones will proudly state that they eliminate these chemicals). You can also install an ozone system that will destroy the precursors to these poisons and prevent them from being produced regardless of the disinfectant being used. As we move forward into this century, the availability of clean, pure and healthy water will continue to be a primary concern, both here in the USA and internationally.

Anyway....sorry to hijack the thread. I just thought it was important to interject this concern. Read more about chloramine and chloraminated water here:

http://www.chloramine.org/

Any alleged failures by the EPA is certainly no surprise to me given the subject matter of this thread and recent scandals within the EPA such as that of John C. Beale.

Chloramine sounds like a very serious issue that I'm glad I am now more aware of. I am also glad to see that there seems to be progress being made towards addressing and resolving the issue. I hope the efforts of concerned citizens continue and are successful, because citizen proactiveness and awareness is what this thread is all about.


As far as testing local drinking and/or ground water with home kits for Aluminum and other chemicals, I think there is already ample evidence, from pretty much every state in America, and every country in the world, of dispersion of these chemicals into the air and water under the guise of geo-engineering exercises. Some countries admit they conduct these exercises, some don't. America is one of the countries that doesn't even though all of the patents for the technology necessary to do the spraying are held by Americans.

Further, I resolved my health issues based in many ways on knowledge I learned from analyzing and understanding this issue, so from a personal standpoint, there is absolutely no doubt in my mind.

So while additional discovery and evidentiary activities are constantly on-going, more effort is now being directed by concerned citizens into obtaining full government and military disclosure of its geo-engineering programs for the purpose of intensive analysis and debate, and for the purpose of establishing an informed protocol for the use of said technology including a determination of allowable chemicals to be used, if any, and the establishment of no-spray zones.

 

[eric2136]

Re: Chemtrails : Aluminum & Other Poisons Falling From The Sky

"All water provided to citizens in California is tested and certified at least once per year by the State Department of Health. That's how permits are renewed."

Did you not read that? If the water needed to be filtered and treated then the state would make them do that. The water has and continues to be tested pure and clean and usable from the source.

http://www.cdph.ca.gov/certlic/drinkingwater/Pages/Chemicalcontaminants.aspx

http://www.agriculturedefensecoalition.org/content/aluminum

Actually, The illegally high levels of certain chemicals in the water is known and documented by Shasta County citizens, as well as local, state and federal agencies. The citizens have been protesting Aluminum Oxide and other chemicals exceeding California Department of Health Sciences Drinking Water Program MCL levels for several years. They have also been complaining to the Air Quality Resources Board as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeQy4dlexZ4

Additionally, some particles, such as nano-aluminum particles, are too small to be filtered by air or water filters but they concentrate in the human body and cause damage. I referred to this observation made by Russell L. Blaylock, M.D., in previous posts of this thread.


Chemtrails in Shasta County
by Rose Taylor 

Mount Shasta, California




On April 15th, both Siskiyou and Shasta County residents addressed the Shasta County Air Pollution Control Board, asking them to investigate the high levels of toxic metals (aluminum, barium and strontium) found in 41 lab samples of water, soil and dust taken throughout Shasta County by various residents. Approximately 25 citizens attended with many eloquent and diverse opinions spoken by informed and caring citizens. Much was covered within the 45-minute public comment period. The following is some of what was discussed: 

1) Lab test results: Dane Wigington, a Shasta County resident presented 41 lab tests results (conducted by a certified Redding laboratory), documenting the fact that all 41 lab tests have come back showing a high degree of contaminant levels of aluminum and barium. According to Mr. Wigington, the most recent samples taken from rainwater several weeks ago, showed 2190 ug/l for aluminum (ppm). He said, “This is 7 times the state’s recognized MCL (Maximum Contaminant Level).” The barium result was 43 ug/1 (ppm), which is almost at the MCL. He said, “I checked with a hydro-geologist about these chemicals and he assured me that unless I lived next to an Alcoa Aluminum factory, there is no way I should have these metals show up in rainwater testing, in any quantity.” 





Suffolk County

 

[bobjustbob]

I say test the clouds for the claim and you say they don't have to. Jagger says test your drinking water and you say you don't have to. You and your chemtrail buddies need to grow up and look in your closets to see that there are no monsters living in there.

 

[eric2136]

I say test the clouds for the claim and you say they don't have to. Jagger says test your drinking water and you say you don't have to. You and your chemtrail buddies need to grow up and look in your closets to see that there are no monsters living in there.

Read before you post dumbass ! Don't try to compare anything you've said to Jagger, at least he didn't come in here acting like a complete and utter idiotic uninformed clown…that distinction is all yours, you've earned it :thumbsup: !

1) Lab test results: Dane Wigington, a Shasta County resident presented 41 lab tests results (conducted by a certified Redding laboratory), documenting the fact that all 41 lab tests have come back showing a high degree of contaminant levels of aluminum and barium. According to Mr. Wigington, the most recent samples taken from rainwater several weeks ago, showed 2190 ug/l for aluminum (ppm). He said, “This is 7 times the state’s recognized MCL (Maximum Contaminant Level).” The barium result was 43 ug/1 (ppm), which is almost at the MCL. He said, “I checked with a hydro-geologist about these chemicals and he assured me that unless I lived next to an Alcoa Aluminum factory, there is no way I should have these metals show up in rainwater testing, in any quantity.” 



 

[Chopper3000]

Give it a rest will you, it's a shit thread made all the more stupid by you believing something that is utter bollocks. No human being in the history of our planet has ever dedicated so much to complete dross. What a prick you are.

 

[eric2136]

LOL ok now here comes the "giblets" moron, you are too dumb to engage in this conversation, or respond to seriously, so just make your obligatory dumb ass "giblets" response and go move on !

Give it a rest will you, it's a shit thread made all the more stupid by you believing something that is utter bollocks. No human being in the history of our planet has ever dedicated so much to complete dross. What a prick you are.

 

[Chopper3000]

I fear for your Sanity. Good luck with your mentaloid issues.

 

[eric2136]

41 lab tests results (conducted by a certified Redding laboratory), documenting the fact that all 41 lab tests have come back showing a high degree of contaminant levels of aluminum and barium.

LOL You know you're too stupid to be in here giblets moron…you would have a tough enough time convincing someone that you have anything more than a 5th grade education, much less intelligently saying anything even remotely relevant too the topic….keep it moving dummy LOL

I fear for your sanity. Good luck with your mentaloid issues.