bobjustbob

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Can you provide us with photos of chemtrails and contrail and what in these photos can be seen in their content that makes them different?
 
Chemtrail "debunk" sites in general have no credibility because they don't do any independent scientific research, and are normally only persuasive to those with the very lowest intellectual grasp of the issue.

Please don't start quoting any garbage from that site unless you've reviewed all the materials in this thread thoroughly, because that site is a very old disinformation site, and anything I say in response will just be repeating myself, which, in general, I don't like to do, and may not do, if I deem your question to be too dumb.

Military aerosol spraying programs have been researched and documented for decades. If you are in any way trying to refute this reality than you are a complete and utter fool, and have obviously done no research regarding the phenomenon.

Its bunk, dude.
 
You clearly have no better evidence than that provided by professional scientists and concerned citizens from around the world. What you personally believe is irrelevant because you are obviously too stupid and uninformed to create an opinion that matters.


Its bunk, dude.
 
While you and your idiot stooge buddies are trying to fly your research planes, that apparently you rented from the USAF or NASA, into covert military experimental contrails, you can take some pictures and let us know what you think…lololol fucking moron.

Can you provide us with photos of chemtrails and contrail and what in these photos can be seen in their content that makes them different?
 

bobjustbob

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Surely I am a skeptic with this issue. I have been sharp with my opinions early on. Maybe disrespectful. I apologize. You are posting information that is a serious concern to you and others. I have questions and concerns so please respect me without further name calling.

I find several of your claims questionable. I also see contradictions. I wish that you would address them.
 
Great to see such a meritorious and reputable icon of the world backing the cause. Then again he is as mad as a box of frogs. I rest my case.
 

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The information which I provided is the best evidence available, and is airtight, most of your questions reflect a poor level of understanding of basic facts, a poor level of an ability to research even in basic information provided, and an absolute lack of credible independent scientific analysis to support anything you have ever said regarding the subject,

So accordingly, your comments will have to improve, in my opinion as an expert, for your responses to receive more respect from me.

There are several different visual factors that distinguish different types of contrails and chemtrails. You can research some chemtrail traits in the following article from a chemtrail observer and investigator taken from aboard a commerical airliner.

http://rense.com/general80/closeup.htm

Surely I am a skeptic with this issue. I have been sharp with my opinions early on. Maybe disrespectful. I apologize. You are posting information that is a serious concern to you and others. I have questions and concerns so please respect me without further name calling.

I find several of your claims questionable. I also see contradictions. I wish that you would address them.
 
As usual, you have no case. Prince was selected as one of TIME magazine's "Top 100 Most Influential People in the World". So I think that pretty much trumps anything that someone of your stature thinks about him.

Great to see such a meritorious and reputable icon of the world backing the cause. Then again he is as mad as a box of frogs. I rest my case.
 
You clearly have no better evidence than that provided by professional scientists and concerned citizens from around the world. What you personally believe is irrelevant because you are obviously too stupid and uninformed to create an opinion that matters.

Uh-huh. You just summarily dismiss any counter argument as being totally bogus and all dissenter as unintelligent, so I'll gladly take the insults of a mad street prophet as complimentary.
 

bobjustbob

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Your link lacks information and what is provided is faulty. Those photos are at a much lower altitude since we can clearly see the land. This put these photos closer to the airport. Given this, we are going to see more air traffic. We don't see any aircraft without a plume out of the back so there is nothing to compare to. No pictures to compare it to from his plane that very well could have produced it's own contrail.

You need to become familiar with aircraft. The Airbus 319a cruises at an altitude of 39k' on coast to coast flights not 30k'. You contradict yourself in many different ways. First you say that very few planes with the equipment can fly past 30k'. You say that they can be rented. Next you say that it is impractical to use these planes. Why were they built? Then you say only USAF and NASA has these planes. Are they renting them?

You are the one providing faulty information and need to better educate yourself on this subject. I know what your next reply will be, I should fly my own plane up there. Sorry, it was you that came on here making these claims, not me. You are making the claims that you can clearly see the difference between contrails and chemtrails and know what is in them. You have provided nothing in any way to support those claims.
 
This long-ass rambling bullshit lacks any links, much less any credible links or evidence to support whatever point you think you are feebly tring to make. Your response is insufficient, try again.

Your link lacks information and what is provided is faulty. Those photos are at a much lower altitude since we can clearly see the land. This put these photos closer to the airport. Given this, we are going to see more air traffic. We don't see any aircraft without a plume out of the back so there is nothing to compare to. No pictures to compare it to from his plane that very well could have produced it's own contrail.

You need to become familiar with aircraft. The Airbus 319a cruises at an altitude of 39k' on coast to coast flights not 30k'. You contradict yourself in many different ways. First you say that very few planes with the equipment can fly past 30k'. You say that they can be rented. Next you say that it is impractical to use these planes. Why were they built? Then you say only USAF and NASA has these planes. Are they renting them?

You are the one providing faulty information and need to better educate yourself on this subject. I know what your next reply will be, I should fly my own plane up there. Sorry, it was you that came on here making these claims, not me. You are making the claims that you can clearly see the difference between contrails and chemtrails and know what is in them. You have provided nothing in any way to support those claims.
 
Re: Chemtrails : Aluminum & Other Poisons Falling From The Sky

Refer to previous response.

Uh-huh. You just summarily dismiss any counter argument as being totally bogus and all dissenter as unintelligent, so I'll gladly take the insults of a mad street prophet as complimentary.
 

bobjustbob

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Re: Chemtrails : Aluminum & Other Poisons Falling From The Sky

Okay, I'll spoon feed this to you again.

" First you say that very few planes with the equipment can fly past 30k'. You say that they can be rented. Next you say that it is impractical to use these planes. Why were they built? Then you say only USAF and NASA has these planes. Are they renting them?"

This is information that you posted and have provided nothing to back it up. Stop trying to tap dance around your claims.
 

bobjustbob

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If that's too complicated for you then answer this. What evidence do you have that chemtrails and contrails can be distinguished from visual observations from the ground?
 
Your double posts provide no links or evidence whatsoever to substantiate any statements you are now making, or have ever made, regarding this matter. Therefore, as usual, your responses are insufficient. Try again.
 
Distinction Between Different Contrail & Chemtrails

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Close-Up Contrail Imagery

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Chemical System Tanks w/Patents for Aerial Dispersal

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Patented Chemtrail Aersol Sprayer Apparatus

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Grid Disperal Patterns

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bobjustbob

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Image 2: Are these Harold Saive's videos?

Image 4: From David Icke. The same guy that is warning us about reptilians.

Image 6: From The Living Moon website. John Lear writes about lunar cities and mining. He will also walk us through the martian world.

Image 8: From AboveTopSecret.com. The below description of the site are in their own words from their About Us page.

AboveTopSecret.com is the Internet's largest and most popular discussion board community dedicated to the intelligent exchange of ideas and debate on a wide range of "alternative topics" such as conspiracies, UFO's, paranormal, secret societies, political scandals, new world order, terrorism, and dozens of related topics on current events, politics, and government wrong-doing with poignant commentary from a diverse mix of users from all over the world.

The rest of your pictures reveal nothing.

Still need more time trying to figure out your airplane rental question? I want an answer.
 

feller469

Moving to a trailer in Fife, AL.
Eight pages in, I think those that believe chem trails are real still believe so. Those that do not believe they exist or are a risk to public health still don't. I will however admit that I have learned a few new put-downs. Thank you.
 
The first picture shows simple engine exhaust condensation, note that the clouds line up perfectly with the engines of each plane. It's no more dangerous than car exhaust, unless you walk straight into the exhaust stream. The second photo depicts contrails due to change in pressure. If you look at the front of the wing, you'll notice the jet's leading edge flaps are down, effectively changing the shape of the wing. This can also occur during aircraft maneuvering. Here's the same phenomenon on a few different planes:
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