Yes, they are all old friends! But in bottles they are only a shadow of their true selves.
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Yes, they are all old friends! But in bottles they are only a shadow of their true selves.
It appears they ship only within Europe
What is the difference between British beer drinking and British Cider drinking--meaning--do people drink both or is cider drinking for certain meals/events? What is the opinion on Blackthorn cider?
It appears they ship only within Europe
What is the difference between British beer drinking and British Cider drinking--meaning--do people drink both or is cider drinking for certain meals/events? What is the opinion on Blackthorn cider?
I suppose if your talking about price, large 3 litre bottles of nasty but strong cider could be bought extreamly cheap, and these would usually be bought by either underage drinkers who just want to get drunk in the cheapest possible way and by alcoholics who wanna do the same thing. And being in large plastic bottles its easily misconstrued as Coke or Pepsi etc.
With beer's you cant do that, so i suppose it could be seen as a lower class drink. Although that has been changed through the popularizations of certain brands of cider which are now drunk in far wider demographics.
Now I may be wrong so wait for someone else to answer just to be sure :hatsoff:
It appears they ship only within Europe
What is the difference between British beer drinking and British Cider drinking--meaning--do people drink both or is cider drinking for certain meals/events? What is the opinion on Blackthorn cider?
Don't judge British beers on the bottled versions!
Blackthorn is a mass produced pasteurised cider , a pleasant drink but not in the same class as the many real ciders available (often called scrumpy)
There is a giant con trick called Magners being played on the public.It's sold as Irish cider though I doubt whether Ireland produces anything like the amount of apples requires so it's really just imported apple pulp fermented in Ireland.It's often drunk over ice which diminishes the flavour even more.Why do people think that beer and cider should be drunk cold?
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Nail on the head!
It appears they ship only within Europe
What is the difference between British beer drinking and British Cider drinking--meaning--do people drink both or is cider drinking for certain meals/events? What is the opinion on Blackthorn cider?
Yeah.Sorry about them only shipping within Europe but at least it gives you a decent idea of the sort of ales we have.There are only two types of British Cider drinker.The person who drinks the REAL stuff and the underage kid who drinks piss like diamond white & white lightning.The person who drinks the real stuff is usually a member of CAMRA(The Campaign For Real Ale)Who only drinks real ale & cider in a mug with a handle on.CAMRA do a great job.
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on the subject of cider... there are millions of bottles
sold in supermarkets every year in the UK and Im sure
we don t grow a fraction of the apples needed for that demand.
There must be tons of apple jusce imported to meet demand
But I also somehow can t see all this cider being patiently brewed in the traditional way.
I have a suspicion that the alcohol is being manufactured
seperately... I suspect using parafin ?
and then this is being blended with apple juice etc
I may be wrong in my suspicions.. but the sales of cider in the supermarkets is on such an astronomical.. industrial scale.... who knows what these big booze corporations are getting up to ?
I also wonder if industrially manufactured alcohol could be doing damage to the brain ?????
sold in supermarkets every year in the UK and Im sure
we don t grow a fraction of the apples needed for that demand.
There must be tons of apple jusce imported to meet demand
But I also somehow can t see all this cider being patiently brewed in the traditional way.
I have a suspicion that the alcohol is being manufactured
seperately... I suspect using parafin ?
and then this is being blended with apple juice etc
I may be wrong in my suspicions.. but the sales of cider in the supermarkets is on such an astronomical.. industrial scale.... who knows what these big booze corporations are getting up to ?
I also wonder if industrially manufactured alcohol could be doing damage to the brain ?????
No, it's fermented using yeast in huge stainless steel fermenters then filtered and pasteurised before bottling.It's actually a very cheap method.
We have very few cider orchards left in the UK.Cider apple varieties have wonderful names like Foxwhelp,Hen's Turd and Dabinette.Yet we are the biggest producers of cider in the world , about 2 Imperial gallons for every man,woman and child every year.
I ve probably got thru more than my share of those
2 imperial gallons of cider per year.... more like 20 !
But .. I know that yeast grows best in parafin and
makes alcohol efficiently in parafin
add to that .. drinking some cider Ive sometimes noticed the feint taste of parafin...
can you be sure that parafin is never used in the manufacture of alcohol and then that alcohol filtered into cider product ?
who knows just what these big corporations are getting up to with our food and drink ?
( and Tesco turning a blind eye ! )
One thing is for sure, the profits are huge
and the government gets a nice slice of the action too.
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It s just the police and the medics who are at the dirty end of all this... dealing with the violence and mayhem fuelled by all this cheap alcohol.
2 imperial gallons of cider per year.... more like 20 !
But .. I know that yeast grows best in parafin and
makes alcohol efficiently in parafin
add to that .. drinking some cider Ive sometimes noticed the feint taste of parafin...
can you be sure that parafin is never used in the manufacture of alcohol and then that alcohol filtered into cider product ?
who knows just what these big corporations are getting up to with our food and drink ?
( and Tesco turning a blind eye ! )
One thing is for sure, the profits are huge
and the government gets a nice slice of the action too.
.
It s just the police and the medics who are at the dirty end of all this... dealing with the violence and mayhem fuelled by all this cheap alcohol.
You have been wrongly informed.Yeast is an organism which feeds on sugars and converts these into alcohol and carbon dioxide.The white "bloom" on grape skins and sometimes on apple skins is wild yeast.Traditionally wine and cider were made simply by squeezing out the juice and letting these wild yeasts ferment the sugars unaided.
Nowadays yeast strains are carefully cultured to give exactly the desired results.Yeast would not survive being put in paraffin , it's water based and needs sugars.
So cider more or less makes itself though a bit of juggling to get the right degree of sweetness might be necessary.There's just nothing to be gained from making it any other way.
Paraffin has no use in the making of any alcoholic drinks, the chemistry is quite wrong.
Thanks for the interesting info all---making me thirsty. We can get Blackthorn here in the states--at Trader Joe's which is a pretty good grocery store.
So if I want to pass myself off as an englishman someday, maybe to try to bed an english hottie I should holler out, "Give me some scrumpy barkeep! I mean to do the rumpy pumpy tonight with her" (point to my chosen babe)
So if I want to pass myself off as an englishman someday, maybe to try to bed an english hottie I should holler out, "Give me some scrumpy barkeep! I mean to do the rumpy pumpy tonight with her" (point to my chosen babe)
If it`s cider you are after,whatever you do,don`t try the St. Helier pear ciders.Utter bollocks.You can`t go wrong with most of the beers though.I always try the guest beers in my local and over many years and many many pints,the only ones i can`t stand are Umbel Magner and Ginger Tom.Quite apt because it tastes like cat piss.Happy hunting(both the beer & the hottie)
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Yes, if you wish to live your life as a 16th century farmhand..
Ever tried congealed pigs blood?
(otherwise known as black-pudding)
Well, Being a Stratford lad (Midlands) I would guess at Aston Villa
A shop licensed to sell alcoholic beverages for consumption off the premises. As opposed to a pub where alcohol can be consumed on site.:hatsoff:
would you say top gear is better then 5th gear ???
Also years ago pubs would have a sort of back door which they would sell bottles of drink to people off open hours.
Depends on what pubs you go into, and the bartender, usually all our beer is served cold (from the local's here) and you'll get surved by a student.