*2016 US Presidential Elections* - Candidates, Statistics, Campaign Timelines, Debates

Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue

I will not vote for Clinton and absolutely cannot vote for Trump so third party it will indeed be for me. Not sure at this point if it will be Johnson or Stein but I vote in every election and I'll vote this November for sure.

I must say that I find it absurd that you refer to sources that are nothing more than blatant conservative mouthpieces and then attempt to present them as legitimate "news" sources. They most certainly aren't so please don't waste my time with them. Show me the same information being presented from a more generally-accepted news source and I'll pay a whole lot more attention to what they have to say. Otherwise, not.

I also find it amazingly hypocritical that Mr. Trump's supporters (and not pointing the finger particularly at you Georges) blindly refuse to hold their own candidate to the same transparency and accountability standards that they have relentlessly imposed upon Secretary Clinton. Why doesn't he release his tax and financial records? What is he hiding? Both of these nominees are from the economic elite and pretend to be able to relate to the masses. How can anyone unequivocally believe one and automatically condemn the other without insisting on the same evidence criteria for both?

It would appear to this voter that both nominees are seriously flawed and fraught with the suspicion that they may have financial favors owed to those who have only their own self-interests in mind and couldn't care less about the average American citizen. Just the implication that this impropriety might be the case is a disqualifier in my view. How can either one of them live up to the fiduciary responsibility they will swear to the American people on January 20 with these questions hanging in the balance? Is that who you want occupying the Oval Office? I certainly don't. I would urge all constituents to please not let your partisanship or political bias cloud your thinking to the point where double-standards are being applied simply because they represent what you want the truth to be....whether it actually is or not being of no significant consequence as long as your guy wins.
 
I will not vote for Clinton and absolutely cannot vote for Trump so third party it will indeed be for me. Not sure at this point if it will be Johnson or Stein but I vote in every election and I'll vote this November for sure.

I must say that I find it absurd that you refer to sources that are nothing more than blatant conservative mouthpieces and then attempt to present them as legitimate "news" sources. They most certainly aren't so please don't waste my time with them. Show me the same information being presented from a more generally-accepted news source and I'll pay a whole lot more attention to what they have to say. Otherwise, not.

I also find it amazingly hypocritical that Mr. Trump's supporters (and not pointing the finger particularly at you Georges) blindly refuse to hold their own candidate to the same transparency and accountability standards that they have relentlessly imposed upon Secretary Clinton. Why doesn't he release his tax and financial records? What is he hiding? Both of these nominees are from the economic elite and pretend to be able to relate to the masses. How can anyone unequivocally believe one and automatically condemn the other without insisting on the same evidence criteria for both?

It would appear to this voter that both nominees are seriously flawed and fraught with the suspicion that they may have financial favors owed to those who have only their own self-interests in mind and couldn't care less about the average American citizen. Just the implication that this impropriety might be the case is a disqualifier in my view. How can either one of them live up to the fiduciary responsibility they will swear to the American people on January 20 with these questions hanging in the balance? Is that who you want occupying the Oval Office? I certainly don't. I would urge all constituents to please not let your partisanship or political bias cloud your thinking to the point where double-standards are being applied simply because they represent what you want the truth to be....whether it actually is or not being of no significant consequence as long as your guy wins.

Trump isn't my guy and he may be involved in some shady shit but nothing that rises to the level of HRC, nor has he compromised our national security in order to conduct said shit. The lesser of two evils? So be it. My state isn't in play so my vote means less than others, but I'm still rooting for him and will vote for him. And there's the Supreme Court which is what this ultimately comes down to.
 

ApolloBalboa

Was King of the Board for a Day
I will not vote for Clinton and absolutely cannot vote for Trump so third party it will indeed be for me. Not sure at this point if it will be Johnson or Stein but I vote in every election and I'll vote this November for sure.

I must say that I find it absurd that you refer to sources that are nothing more than blatant conservative mouthpieces and then attempt to present them as legitimate "news" sources. They most certainly aren't so please don't waste my time with them. Show me the same information being presented from a more generally-accepted news source and I'll pay a whole lot more attention to what they have to say. Otherwise, not.

I also find it amazingly hypocritical that Mr. Trump's supporters (and not pointing the finger particularly at you Georges) blindly refuse to hold their own candidate to the same transparency and accountability standards that they have relentlessly imposed upon Secretary Clinton. Why doesn't he release his tax and financial records? What is he hiding? Both of these nominees are from the economic elite and pretend to be able to relate to the masses. How can anyone unequivocally believe one and automatically condemn the other without insisting on the same evidence criteria for both?

It would appear to this voter that both nominees are seriously flawed and fraught with the suspicion that they may have financial favors owed to those who have only their own self-interests in mind and couldn't care less about the average American citizen. Just the implication that this impropriety might be the case is a disqualifier in my view. How can either one of them live up to the fiduciary responsibility they will swear to the American people on January 20 with these questions hanging in the balance? Is that who you want occupying the Oval Office? I certainly don't. I would urge all constituents to please not let your partisanship or political bias cloud your thinking to the point where double-standards are being applied simply because they represent what you want the truth to be....whether it actually is or not being of no significant consequence as long as your guy wins.

It's really unfair that I can't rep you when you really deserve it (not to say that you haven't earned it other times, but this hits all points).
 

Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
Trump isn't my guy and he may be involved in some shady shit but nothing that rises to the level of HRC....

Never said he was "your guy" so not sure what that emphasis is all about. Also, you conclusions are based on opinion, not fact. I have no objection to whomever you are supporting and for whatever reason so by all means vote your conscience. However, due to the lack of data from Trump, you simply cannot make a direct comparison.

Both candidates are substandard to say the least....in my opinion.
 

Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
But vote for Gary Johnson or whomever and assuage your conscience. Who gives a shit. It's as irrelevant as that candidate.

I give a shit, that's who. Call it irrelevant if you wish but it's really the only choice I have aside from none at all.
 
Have to hold my nose and vote for Hillary. Trump is the most dangerous, idiotic, narcissistic candidate in American presidential history.

America needs some kind of change, but you don't just accept the first insulting blowhard who appeals to your lowest senses you can find.
 
Have to hold my nose and vote for Hillary. Trump is the most dangerous, idiotic, narcissistic candidate in American presidential history.

America needs some kind of change, but you don't just accept the first insulting blowhard who appeals to your lowest senses you can find.

Great! Another genius.

Bernie Madoff is doing time for far less than what that Pantsuit wearing, lying cunt has done.

If you can vote for that crook then you deserve the government you get.
 

ApolloBalboa

Was King of the Board for a Day
If Donald Trump's campaign slogan from the get-go was "What the Hell Do You Have to Lose?", I can almost guarantee you he'd be doing better.
 

Supafly

Retired Mod
Bronze Member
Don't worry. I will start a thtead about our Chancellor elections 2017, and welcome your thoughtful opinions and insights, of course.

There is talk about Merkel getting tird. And our variation of the Democrats, the SPD, has their own trouble deciding on the candidate. Wait for my thread :)
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
More proof of HC's health problems:
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/...hillarys-health-truth-revealed/#ixzz4IIVGdepf

actual email
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/25404

Why would a Foreign policy advisor be writing HC with detailed info on a drug used to treat Parkinsons Disease?
To be fair it's also used a alternative to amphetamines.

No smoking gun here but just a little more proof she is sick.

Btw today she made a speech referring to Trump multiple times as a racist, neo nazi, and KKK supporter.
This coming from a person who's staff refers to the Mexicans vote as " The Taco Bowl Engagement".
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/5492
The Race card. Can she get any lower?
 
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