*2016 US Presidential Elections* - Candidates, Statistics, Campaign Timelines, Debates

[Straight Shooter]

Voters are flowing into the state at a firehose rate — young, educated and many to take high-paying jobs when they arrive. They're coming from everywhere and quickly diluting North Carolina's conservative political underpinnings.

"Clinton is winning," said North Carolina Republican pollster Michael Luethy. "Particularly because folks who have moved to the state in the last five years are very different voters. They're persuaded by a different issue set than those have been here a while."

Clinton's statewide advantage among such younger and college educated voters is also helping tighten the race in what were once the more conservative regions that surrounded Asheville in the state's west and Fayetteville in the east.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/national-politics/article96998142.html

Hey BC, how true is this? Is this something that you're seeing over there in NC?

 

[Mayhem]

Voters are flowing into the state at a firehose rate — young, educated and many to take high-paying jobs when they arrive. They're coming from everywhere and quickly diluting North Carolina's conservative political underpinnings.

"Clinton is winning," said North Carolina Republican pollster Michael Luethy. "Particularly because folks who have moved to the state in the last five years are very different voters. They're persuaded by a different issue set than those have been here a while."

Clinton's statewide advantage among such younger and college educated voters is also helping tighten the race in what were once the more conservative regions that surrounded Asheville in the state's west and Fayetteville in the east.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/poli...e96998142.html

Hey BC, how true is this? Is this something that you're seeing over there in NC?

Nope, The bars, the liquor store, the pharmacy; it's all the same people in BC's world. He certainly isn't going to notice or admit that educated people are more prevalent and that his type is getting lonelier by the day.

Gotta love how this election is coming down to educated vs. uneducated.

 

[The Yak]

I also live in North Carolina.

 

[Jack Davenport]

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/national-politics/article96998142.html

Hey BC, how true is this? Is this something that you're seeing over there in NC?

The higher paying jobs have always been in Raleigh, Charlotte, Durham, they have always voted Democrat in those areas.

We were hurting 4 years ago and McCrory has brought a lot if new industry and jobs to the state. They are calling it the "Carolina Comeback" a play on UNC basketball legendary come from behind wins.

The effect won't be seen until this election.

Now if Mayhem will take his GED ass over to the uneducated wannabe military line, we'll get this show in the road.

 

[Jack Davenport]

I also live in North Carolina.

Do you sell moonshine and eat roadkill like the rest of us inbreds?

 

[sean miguel]

Trump +2

choo-choo!

http://www.latimes.com/politics/

 

[Jack Davenport]

Trump +2

choo-choo!

http://www.latimes.com/politics/

He is going to pummel her in the debates.

 

[Straight Shooter]

I also live in North Carolina.

Thoughts as a native of NC?
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/national-politics/article96998142.html

 

[Mayhem]

It sure sounds like Donald Trump is considering his biggest flip-flop yet

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ump-is-considering-his-biggest-flip-flop-yet/

Donald Trump launched his campaign on a promise to be very, very tough on illegal immigration — and immigrants. He called Mexican immigrants "rapists" and "criminals." He would later promise to deport every single one of them — even approvingly referencing a controversial 1950s mass-deportation program known as "Operation Wetback." He has in recent weeks prominently featured victims of crimes perpetrated by illegal immigrants.

But according to reports and the suggestions of his top advisers on Sunday, it sounds as if he's considering seriously changing his tune — in what would amount to a stunning flip-flop.

Late Saturday, BuzzFeed and Univision reported that Trump backed away from that rhetoric at a meeting with a group of newly announced Hispanic advisers, appearing open to a plan to deal with the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants that is not deportation.

"Importantly, Trump did not explicitly use the word 'legalization' at the meeting, but sources in the room said they feel it is the direction the campaign is going," BuzzFeed's Adrian Carrasquillo reported.

Univision, meanwhile, reported that three attendees said Trump "plans to present an immigration plan in Colorado Thursday that will include finding a way to legalize millions of undocumented immigrants."

Top Trump advisers were asked Sunday to respond to the reports, and they didn't exactly reject them.

Asked twice whether he was sticking with his plan for a deportation force, newly installed Trump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway deflected and then told CNN that it was "to be determined."

Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.), meanwhile, said Trump is "wrestling" with how to handle illegal immigrants already in the United States.

"What I'm certain about is that he did not make a firm commitment yesterday, or the meeting the other day, about what he will do with that," Sessions said on CBS News when asked whether Trump still supports deporting all 11 million. "But he did listen, and he's talking about it."

Trump's campaign is playing down the reports and says nothing has really changed. But it clearly has. Even in equivocating and saying it's "to be determined," the campaign is striking a far different tone than Trump has before. Conway was twice given the chance to reiterate that Trump will deport all illegal immigrants, and she didn't.

And, to be clear, that has been Trump's position. Anything else would present a major change from a guy whose primary victory and 2016 campaign writ large have been defined by his hard-line immigration stance. It has been has signature proposal, complete with a Mexico-funded border wall.

In August 2015, when asked on NBC's "Meet the Press" whether he would deport all illegal immigrants, Trump repeatedly responded, "They have to go." In September, he confirmed to "60 Minutes" that was his position, saying they could apply for legalization after being deported.

SCOTT PELLEY: You're rounding them all up?

TRUMP: We're rounding 'em up in a very humane way, in a very nice way.
And they're going to be happy because they want to be legalized. And,
by the way, I know it doesn't sound nice. But not everything is nice.

Trump repeated his promise of a deportation force in November, even pointing to "Operation Wetback" — a large-scale removal of illegal immigrants under Dwight Eisenhower in 1954 that is now seen as inhumane — though not by name.

And Trump was crystal-clear in a February debate.

"We have at least 11 million people in this country that came in illegally," he said. "They will go out. They will come back — some will come back, the best, through a process. They have to come back legally."

This weekend, though, is not the first time that Trump has signaled he might soften that position. In a February interview with the New York Times editorial board, Trump reportedly said that his plan was negotiable (he later denied that). In June, Trump said he would not describe his plan as "mass deportation."

We don't know what Trump will propose in the days and weeks ahead, but the fact that he's even thinking about it is notable, because his existing plan was clear and unequivocal, presented over and over again.

Trump's positions on the issues have changed before. He is not a model of consistency, to put it mildly. But this issue was so central to his previous appeals that a change in course would truly be striking — the kind of ultraconvenient general election pivot that he has previously avoided and said he wasn't interested in.

So, you're not getting the wall he promised. You're not getting the deportation that you were promised. Good thing he hired "professionals". They didn't take long to turn yer boy into just another politician.

Now if Mayhem will take his GED ass over to the uneducated wannabe military line, we'll get this show in the road.

I've had a few minutes to reflect, and I'm man enough to admit....this was a pretty good comeback. :doa82:
You're usually bombed out of your mind by this time Sunday. You feeling OK? Is your dealer feeling OK? Didn't break the jelly jar, did you?

 

[Jack Davenport]

I rarely drink. Bottle of scotch has been sitting in the cabinet unopened for 6 weeks.

I never take drugs ( I smoked weed maybe 5 times as a teen)

Prescription medication goes unused for the most part. I don't even take blood pressure meds.

I just don't like you. Get over it man, and find yourself another man crush

There's plenty of fish in the sea..

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

Gotta love how this election is coming down to educated vs. uneducated.

So how educated are liberals (in general) then? Don't the uneducated make up a main chunk of democrat votes? Don't answer that...I already know the answer.

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Gotta love how this election is coming down to educated vs. uneducated.

So how educated are liberals (in general) then? Don't the uneducated make up a main chunk of democrat votes? Don't answer that...I already know the answer.

 

[Jack Davenport]

So how educated are liberals (in general) then? Don't the uneducated make up a main chunk of democrat votes? Don't answer that...I already know the answer.

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So how educated are liberals (in general) then? Don't the uneducated make up a main chunk of democrat votes? Don't answer that...I already know the answer.

The idiot deals cards for a living. He's part of the uneducated low information Democrat base.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

lol



we all know who the democrats' biggest base is...welfare sucking, freeloadin' shitheads, among others. Which is why I'm always stumped why they try to play that bullshit card (republicans are a bunch of uneducated rednecks BS..)

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

"Conservatives"/republicans donate more as well, as pointed out by a liberal here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/opinion/21kristof.html?_r=0

households headed by conservatives give 30 percent more to charity than households headed by liberals. A study by Google found an even greater disproportion: average annual contributions reported by conservatives were almost double those of liberals.

Other research has reached similar conclusions. The “generosity index” from the Catalogue for Philanthropy typically finds that red states are the most likely to give to nonprofits, while Northeastern states are least likely to do so.

So which party is it again that has better character?

 

[Luxman]

"Conservatives"/republicans donate more as well, as pointed out by a liberal here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/opinion/21kristof.html?_r=0
So which party is it again that has better character?

Most charities are scams, especially the charities and foundations created by rich assholes. They are a way for rich people to give each other money/bribes, the giver gets a tax deduction and the receiver pays no taxes, basically to use tax money to partly fund their bribes.

Under Governor Chris Christie, New Jersey Forgave $25 Million Donald Trump's Casinos Owed in Back Taxes
It's profitable to have friends in the government, they can make your crimes go away.
If Trump is elected, many of his friends, family, people who give large donations/bribes, will receive favors.
Reminds me of the Godfather movies. Organized crime and politics and big business are very much alike.
Of course the democrats do the same, but I believe to a lesser degree, the lesser evil is better.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/17/us/politics/trump-chris-christie-casinos.html

 

[Mayhem]

I just don't like you. Get over it man, and find yourself another man crush

That's hi-larious. You, of all people, talking about a man-crush. As soon as you quit obsessively humping my leg, I'll leave your obvious substance abuse alone, Cletus. As far as your prissy little protestations, you're either that stoned or you're that fucking stupid...or both. I vote for both. And let's not forget your gene pool looking like a mop bucket. Your inbreeding is so obvious that I'm beginning to think that your parents were conjoined twins.

The press, all of it, has covered that Baron Trumps main support comes from uneducated, white nationalists. That would be you, Scott and Ani. Bonespur's rating is at all time lows for anyone with an education. Fact. You, Scott and Ani like a candidate that's as batshit as you are. Fact. You can cry and play your usual victim bullshit, but all of this is covered every single day and your little daily Klan gathering supports the data.

Now run along to the jailhouse and find a fellow junkie with a shoulder to cry on.

 

[Jack Davenport]

That's hi-larious. You, of all people, talking about a man-crush. As soon as you quit obsessively humping my leg, I'll leave your obvious substance abuse alone, Cletus. As far as your prissy little protestations, you're either that stoned or you're that fucking stupid...or both. I vote for both. And let's not forget your gene pool looking like a mop bucket. Your inbreeding is so obvious that I'm beginning to think that your parents were conjoined twins.

The press, all of it, has covered that Baron Trumps main support comes from uneducated, white nationalists. That would be you, Scott and Ani. Bonespur's rating is at all time lows for anyone with an education. Fact. You, Scott and Ani like a candidate that's as batshit as you are. Fact. You can cry and play your usual victim bullshit, but all of this is covered every single day and your little daily Klan gathering supports the data.

Now run along to the jailhouse and find a fellow junkie with a shoulder to cry on.

You may be the most disliked person on FreeOnes.

Sorry to break it to you, now somebody should probably hide the sharp objects from you.

As for your comments toward me, knock yourself out.

If anybody around here has a tainted gene pool it is you, and you prove it on a daily basis. Who else would constantly obsess over an "audience" as you do?

As for education, what sort of degree must one hold to deal plastic coated cards and poker chips out to people while inhaling second hand smoke and kissing the asses of inebriated casino patrons?

Dollars to donuts that you never finished high school ( your projecting gives you away) and you spend the free time of your miserable existence fapping to anime and searching for mail order brides.

A fine job your parents did with their contribution to society.

They should be proud.. real proud.

 

[Johan]

Poll: Half of all voters won't consider Trump


Half of all voters say they definitely won't consider voting for Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump, according to a new Morning Consult poll.

The poll also found that 45 percent of voters said they definitely wouldn't consider voting for Clinton.

About 35 percent of voters say they will definitely vote for Clinton, and another 16 percent say they will at least consider voting for the Democratic nominee.

For Trump, 29 percent of voters say they will definitely vote for him, and 16 percent said they would consider it.

According to the poll, 28 percent of Clinton and Trump supporters say they would consider voting for Libertarian Party nominee Gary Johnson.

More than a quarter of those planning to vote for Clinton say they'd consider backing Green Party nominee Jill Stein, but only 14 percent of Trump supporters say they would consider the same choice.

The poll also finds that 32 percent of all voters would consider voting for Johnson, and 23 percent would consider backing Stein.

Another Morning Consult poll found that Clinton leads Trump by 3 points in the presidential race.

In a four-way matchup, Clinton is favored by 39 percent of voters and Trump is backed by 36 percent. Another 8 percent support Johnson, and 4 percent support Stein.

Among independents, 23 percent said they supported Clinton and 30 percent said they backed Trump.

In a head-to-head matchup between both major party's nominees, Clinton holds a 6-point lead over her Republican rival, 44 percent to 38 percent.

The polls were conducted among 2,001 voters Aug. 16–17 and Aug. 18–20, respectively. The margin of error in both polls is 2 percentage points.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/292157-poll-half-of-all-voters-wont-consider-voting-for-trump


Looking to that, I can see what I would do to beat Hillary, if I was Trump's campaign manager (or Trump himself) : attack Jill Stein.
Because if Trump would attacks Jill Stein, he would put her in the spotlight, offer her some medias coverage, some TV airtime and could draw more people to her, which would hurt Hillary.

 

[Jack Davenport]

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/292157-poll-half-of-all-voters-wont-consider-voting-for-trump


Looking to that, I can see what I would do to beat Hillary, if I was Trump's campaign manager (or Trump himself) : attack Jill Stein.
Because if Trump would attacks Jill Stein, he would put her in the spotlight, offer her some medias coverage, some TV airtime and could draw more people to her, which would hurt Hillary.

Not a bad idea there Johan.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

Most charities are scams, especially the charities and foundations created by rich assholes. They are a way for rich people to give each other money/bribes, the giver gets a tax deduction and the receiver pays no taxes, basically to use tax money to partly fund their bribes.

Under Governor Chris Christie, New Jersey Forgave $25 Million Donald Trump's Casinos Owed in Back Taxes
It's profitable to have friends in the government, they can make your crimes go away.
If Trump is elected, many of his friends, family, people who give large donations/bribes, will receive favors.
Reminds me of the Godfather movies. Organized crime and politics and big business are very much alike.
Of course the democrats do the same, but I believe to a lesser degree, the lesser evil is better.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/17/us/politics/trump-chris-christie-casinos.html

Jesus H Christ. Did you even look at the link I provided? I'm talking/typing to a wall here..

The press, all of it, has covered that Baron Trumps main support comes from uneducated, white nationalists. That would be you, Scott and Ani. Bonespur's rating is at all time lows for anyone with an education. Fact. You, Scott and Ani like a candidate that's as batshit as you are. Fact. You can cry and play your usual victim bullshit, but all of this is covered every single day and your little daily Klan gathering supports the data.

Now run along to the jailhouse and find a fellow junkie with a shoulder to cry on.

What the fuck are you talking about? How would you know what education level I have?


Everyone in my immediate family (including me) has a college degree. I can damn well assure you there is no "white trash" in my family - all middle- to upper-class socioeconomically, thank you. With all due respect, go fuck yourself.