*2016 US Presidential Elections* - Candidates, Statistics, Campaign Timelines, Debates

Trump is getting 8% of the black vote compared to Clinton's 87%. Well, there's nowhere to go but up :dunno:

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I like that Trump is reaching out to African-Americans. Whether it bears meaningful fruit, the glass half-empty in me says no, but at least he hasn't just written them off like other GOP candidates have. What the hell else do you have to lose?

Trump is gonna be in my neck of the woods early next week. Got my Make America Less Shitty Again banner and riot gear on hand.
 
George W. Bush lost the over 40-65 demographic in 2000 but won them in 2004.

Trump is doing well with them as well as the 65 plus demo.
 
As far as books go, I've read a couple of Coulter's including Demonic which was her best one IMO - stuff about the French Revolution you never learned about in school.

And yes, Savage's Borders, Language, Culture manifesto. My favorite and the most illuminating for me was Whittaker Chambers' Witness.

I need to add Thomas Sowell to my reading list. How did I miss this guy?
 
Dem Senator: In Secret, My Republican Colleagues Support Clinton


Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI) claimed that his Republican Senate colleagues are more inclined towards Hillary Clinton than Donald Trump—whether or not they admit it in public.

“From a Senate perspective, in a secret ballot, Hillary gets a lot of votes out of the Republican caucus. Potentially she even commands a majority of the Republican caucus in a secret ballot because people really do respect her,” Whitehouse told Buzzfeed News in an interview published Thursday.

The Rhode Island senator recalled a group of Republican senators expressing praise for Clinton during a briefing on a “highly classified matter.”

“Two of them, her very prominent antagonists in this election, and one looked over at the other and said ‘Boy, she’s good.’ The other one leaned back and said, ‘Yeah, she’s really good,’" Whitehouse said. "And that’s the Hillary that they know. Not the talking points Hillary or the caricature, but the real person."

While some Republicans on Capitol Hill, including Sen. Mark Kirk (R-IL) and Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME), have said they cannot support Trump, no sitting senator, as of yet, has openly said they would vote for Clinton.

Whitehouse said his Republican colleagues have reason to be wary of how a president Trump would interact with Congress.

“Once the back-and-forth and the nonsense and the election is over, she has a very strong base of credibility, good will, confidence, and relationships to go to, particularly in the Senate,” Whitehouse said. “Donald Trump, on the other hand, has such temperamental problems that it’s hard to see how he would work with us. But he’s also so badly damaged people who have tried to help him. Look at what he did to poor Chris Christie who tried to be his friend and is now almost a national laughingstock as a result of what he’s done to him.”
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewi...-republican-senators-secretly-support-clinton


GOP Senators are not dumb, they realise that having Trump for POTUs would be catastrophic for the country. If the GOP candidate was Chris Christie, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, John Kasich or even Ted Cruz they would support him. But Trump goes too far, even for GOP senators.
People like Paul Ryan can't allow themselves not to support Trump in the medias, that would get the voters so pissed it would cot GOP the Senate and maybeeven the House. But I'm pretty sur that, in the secret of the voting booth, they'll vote for Hillary.
 
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewi...-republican-senators-secretly-support-clinton


GOP Senators are not dumb, they realise that having Trump for POTUs would be catastrophic for the country. If the GOP candidate was Chris Christie, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, John Kasich or even Ted Cruz they would support him. But Trump goes too far, even for GOP senators.
People like Paul Ryan can't allow themselves not to support Trump in the medias, that would get the voters so pissed it would cot GOP the Senate and maybeeven the House. But I'm pretty sur that, in the secret of the voting booth, they'll vote for Hillary.

It is real easy to say, "I know someone who"..

We are living a catastrophic presidency right now.

If these Senators thought it would help them by coming out against Trump they would.

Let's have some names besides Ben Sasse and Mark Kirk.

Mind your own catastrophic presidency.
 

Luxman

#TRE45ON
The US has a 2 party political system.
Voting for a 3rd party is like not voting at all.
Everyone has to vote for liberal or conservative, so their vote counts.
It's still early, the real shit will start to come out in October and November, I think both parties are holding on to the more damaging info until then, when it will make the most impact on the election.
Hopefully it will make things clearer and and make it easier for people to decide how to vote.
I'm hoping Hillary wins, but if it's proven that she is as bad as conservatives say she is, then Trump would be a better choice, and hopefully the GOP and houses can control him.
I would hope for the opposite, but from my personal experience, I've seen mostly conservative voters knowingly lie and spread false information, just to try to get more votes.

Vote for the lesser evil.
 

Supafly

Retired Mod
Bronze Member
Correction:

It is a two-party sysdtem as long as not enough people do something about it. Your take on things are classic self-fulfilling prophecy
 

Luxman

#TRE45ON
Unless something extreme happens, it will always be a two party system.
The only time in recent history a 3rd party got a significant percentage of the vote was Ross Perot in 1992, and most of those votes would have gone to Bush senior and probably would have won him the election.
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/showelection.php?year=1992

I'm in favor of a multi party system, but realistically it's not likely to happen, so voting for a 3rd party is useless.


1944 - FDR wins unprecedented fourth term
"In 1947, with President Harry Truman, Roosevelt’s vice president, in office, Congress proposed a law that would limit presidents to two consecutive terms."
If the law wasn't passed, the history of the past 70 years would be drastically different, and Obama would probably be president for one more term.
http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/fdr-wins-unprecedented-fourth-term
 

Mayhem

Banned
Shocking Numbers Reveal GOP’s Big Secret: Trump Is Bankrupting The Republican Party\

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/08...ecret-trump-bankrupting-republican-party.html

An analysis of RNC fundraising data has revealed that beyond losing, Donald Trump’s drain of a campaign is literally bankrupting the Republican Party.

According to Open Secrets, RNC contributions are at their lowest point since before 2004:

Virtually every category of receipts shows a decline this year. Contributions from individuals where the amount given is less than $200 (the “unitemized” category) is less than half what it was in July of 2004, 2008 and 2012. There is a similar decline in direct contributions of larger amounts where specific information about the donor is included in the report. These itemized contributions total much less than July 2004 and 2008 and are even smaller than July 2012 when joint fundraising became much more important.

These joint fundraising efforts where the presidential campaign works together with the national party and state parties around the country are increasingly important, and the RNC total from those efforts also lags in July compared with 2012 and 2008. The Trump campaign has talked about huge joint fundraising successes, but neither the campaign nor the RNC has received all that much from this process so far comparatively.

People often look at cash balances and the end of the month to get a feel for how a committee is positioned for future spending. Here too, the RNC on July 31 was strikingly short of its own status on the same date in past campaigns. At a time when $70 to $90 million is the norm, the RNC finds itself with only $34.5 million in the bank.


The Trump campaign bragged about their uptick in fundraising, but a deeper look inside the numbers shows that the RNC only has $15 million in usable cash. That is $15 million for every race, data operation, voter registration, and get out the vote effort in the country. Donald Trump’s refusal to build a campaign operation in all 50 states has resulted in the RNC having to spend their resources. Trump doesn’t have a data operation, so the RNC is using party resources for that too.

Donald Trump is bleeding the Republican Party dry.
It is no surprise that a man who has built his career on bankruptcy and debt is mooching off of the Republican Party. What is shocking is how quickly Trump has pushed the RNC towards insolvency.

The money that the RNC isn’t raising because of Trump matters because that means that there will be less money to go around for other candidates. Republicans could lose close House and Senate elections because RNC Chair Reince Priebus threw precious party resources down the Trump sink hole.

Don’t believe the Trump created hype. Trump may play a billionaire on reality television, but as a presidential nominee, he is a deadbeat eating all of the RNC’s food while crashing on their couch.
 
The donations are down because most conservatives are tired of donating to the establishment.

We are bypassing the RNC and donating directly to the candidate we like.

Trump isn't hurting their fundraising. It is a self inflicted wound.

Their numbers would be down if the nominee was someone other than Trump.
 
Isn't Trump like 15 years older than Obama?

And if I was Obama I don't think I would be walking around shirtless either.

He's not Cam Newton, that's for sure.
 
What in the fuck is this bitch wearing? An oven mitt?

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People, this is the odds on favorite to be the next leader of the free world.

My god!
 
This woman doesn't have a spine. A week ago she was 100% sure Trump wouldn't change his immigration policy


Then, a couple of days later when Trump did change his immigration policy (and ruined the whole point of Ann's book) she said he was making a big mistake


And now this :
 
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