*2016 US Presidential Elections* - Candidates, Statistics, Campaign Timelines, Debates

The Yak

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I'm interested in seeing how Trump will perform tonight. This is a whole different environment. He's never debated one on one. This is not a primary debate where he's gong to be on stage with 9 other people. In the primary debates you could disappear for a good chunk of time because of the number of people on stage. He won't be able to do that tonight. He's going to have to speak for 90 minutes. He also won't have a conservative audience that will be hooting and hollering for him like in the primary debates. Does that mean we'll see a more subdued Trump? I think so. I think you'll see a different Trump than the one we saw in the primary debates. He has to seem presidential. But that's a very low bar at this point. He's said so many ridiculous and factually incorrect things that he'll seem presidential just by not saying anything outrageous for 90 minutes
 
I call it a draw. Trump gets a slight advantage because he held his own considering it was the first one on one debate of his life.

He has a real shot at winning this thing.
 
Going in I thought it should have been Trump's for the taking, and in the beginning it seemed that way. And then he started going off message and off point. Not a big deal when you're giving solo speeches, but in a debate if you can't answer the question it gets frustrating for the viewer. It really felt like Hil threw out red herrings in her answers for Trump to bite on and he jumped on a bunch of them, diluting his answer.

It wasn't a disaster, but he easily could have done better.
 
Consensus is that Clinton won. Even Fox News is saying that. But there's 2 more debates so this is by no means over. I remember in 2012 when Obama lost the first debate. He kept looking down and smirking and I remember us liberals were freaking the fuck out that he was going to lose the race.
 
I caught the last part of the debate. Hillary had a good line about stamina

Yeah that was probably the best line in this debate.
She did remarkably well for a woman at death's door maybe it was a body double? :dunno:
Trump started off pretty well but got to rambling a lot in the later innings.
The not paying any income tax because he's "smart" doesn't figure to sit very well with an awful lot of common folks who do pay income tax despite earning a tiny fraction of what Trump does.
And his response to why he continued to push the birther nonsense, for 5 years after the BC was made public, was just incredibly weak. Let alone the stupidity of ever championing it in the first place.
 
Consensus is that Clinton won. Even Fox News is saying that. But there's 2 more debates so this is by no means over. I remember in 2012 when Obama lost the first debate. He kept looking down and smirking and I remember us liberals were freaking the fuck out that he was going to lose the race.

Fox are saying a lot of things they wouldn't be saying if Ailes were still there. Brit Hume came back after he left and Megan Kelly is acting like she has the house to herself because her parents are away for the weekend. There is no way in hell that Hillary Clinton scored any sort of knockout on Trump. In fact, she failed to do so which will leave them frustrated.
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
Trump was Trump. He was himself and he was holding back as to not upset the Safe Space types.
Clinton was her usual Politician self.
Trump was trying to hit the issues asked and what he said was reality while she was dancing around using the usual politician tactic of using many words but with no substance. Just acting.
But he got his main point across to those who can still think which is she's had years and years in politics and she hasn't fixed anything.
Why should anyone think that will suddenly change.

She even was so desperate or just classless that she used the race card and the woman hater card.
And if Trump wasn't agressive with the moderator he wouldn't have had a chance to defend himself.
He could have brought up all the Clinton victims of scams and frauds. All of Bills sexual assualt victims, Haiti, Libya, Benghazi,Pay for Play, The DNC corruption and election fraud ect ect ect but he didn't.
He could have brought up the Clinton Foundation and the millions her and her husband get paid making speeches to Big Biz's and Big Banks which are obviously bribes but he held back.

Basically Trump was real and offering solutions, HC was a robot and talking in meaningless phrases and nonsense, and people see this.

But I still know the whole thing is rigged, staged and planned out to a T so I'm not really buying any of it.
 
Fox are saying a lot of things they wouldn't be saying if Ailes were still there.
Speaking of which, it was widely publicized that he was one of the people helping him prep for this debate. I wonder what he helped with?
 

Ace Boobtoucher

Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol

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Twelve hours of coverage and this is the only meaningful thing that happened. Trump started out okay with some of the economics stuff but I could see he let Hilldebeast get to him. Her B.S. about her ****** made me uneasy. Her parents didn't send her to Ivy League schools on a working man's wages. The foreign trade portion really got under my skin, too. Punishing companies for seeking lower taxes will not bring them back into the fold. I'd call it a draw but honestly she got the best of him. He needs to stay on point about Law and Order because her views and platform are counter-intuitive.
 
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