2013/2014 NCAA Football Thread

[lurkingdirk]

Man, Ohio State nearly got nipped by Michigan. One point game. Shows that if you put Ohio state against a quality team even of the moderate abilities of Michigan, they start to crumble. That game should not up them in the standings. In my opinion, Auburn should pass them, and Alabama should remain ahead of them. Either of those teams would smoke Ohio State right now.

The ending of the Alabama/Auburn game was fucking epic. Holy Moses. Fantastic.

Notre Dame just pulled to within four of Stanford. They're actually standing up pretty well in this game. They'll still lose, but they looked much better than predicted. That's something. Too bad another loss will inevitably knock them out of the standings for the year. I look forward to seeing what the offensive line can produce with a good quarterback.

 

[Connor Macleod]

The game isn't over yet, but Missouri looks strong.

 

[smoknn]

Unnnnnnnnn fucking believable.

Regarding the NC, it's OSU and FSU's to lose, no? It sure as fuck should be. If OSU beats MSU, they deserve a shot. But I'd bet my bottom dollar an SEC sneaks their way in somehow.

i dont what we will do if mich st beats ohio st and duke was to beat florida st?...................

 

[smoknn]

bama fans dont make excuses. we got beat. i want to say at least one bama fan did not agree with kicking a 57 yd field goal with one second on the clock. had i been coaching we may have lost the game. but they would have beat us in overtime. that is all i got at the moment. but i will be back. :

 

[spacearrow99]

i dont what we will do if mich st beats ohio st and duke was to beat florida st?...................

This FSU team is the most talented team in our history. I'm not worried about Duke beating us. The Florida 2nd district SAO would not let someone who they thought committed a rape stay in society, if they had the evidence to convict him during a trial.

 

[Skyraider22]

I have been watching FSU since 1986, and this may be our best team ever.

I like you already.the 1999 team was the best.Well we got Duke next Noles Rising

 

[Connor Macleod]

... The Florida 2nd district SAO would not let someone who they thought committed a rape stay in society, if they had the evidence to convict him during a trial.

What they're actually thinking is whether they can win at trial.

 

[MILF Man]

Congratulations to the Auburn Tigers!

None of the so-called "experts" gave Auburn a chance. Can we give everyone at ESPN the official "DICK of the Week" award now?

UA loses and so much for AJ winning the Heisman Trophy!

 

[smoknn]

Man, Ohio State nearly got nipped by Michigan. One point game. Shows that if you put Ohio state against a quality team even of the moderate abilities of Michigan, they start to crumble. That game should not up them in the standings. In my opinion, Auburn should pass them, and Alabama should remain ahead of them. Either of those teams would smoke Ohio State right now.

The ending of the Alabama/Auburn game was fucking epic. Holy Moses. Fantastic.

Notre Dame just pulled to within four of Stanford. They're actually standing up pretty well in this game. They'll still lose, but they looked much better than predicted. That's something. Too bad another loss will inevitably knock them out of the standings for the year. I look forward to seeing what the offensive line can produce with a good quarterback.

according to my figure. even tho bama lost to auburn. it is not out of the question bama and auburn in the NC game. duke would have to beat florida st....auburn would have to beat mazoo. and i am convinced mich st will beat 3 shades of hell out of ohio st. in fact i think anyone in the top 5 would smoke osu. i see something over the horizon

 

[smoknn]

Man, Ohio State nearly got nipped by Michigan. One point game. Shows that if you put Ohio state against a quality team even of the moderate abilities of Michigan, they start to crumble. That game should not up them in the standings. In my opinion, Auburn should pass them, and Alabama should remain ahead of them. Either of those teams would smoke Ohio State right now.

The ending of the Alabama/Auburn game was fucking epic. Holy Moses. Fantastic.

Notre Dame just pulled to within four of Stanford. They're actually standing up pretty well in this game. They'll still lose, but they looked much better than predicted. That's something. Too bad another loss will inevitably knock them out of the standings for the year. I look forward to seeing what the offensive line can produce with a good quarterback.

according to my figure. even tho bama lost to auburn. it is not out of the question bama and auburn in the NC game. duke would have to beat florida st....auburn would have to beat mazoo. and i am convinced mich st will beat 3 shades of hell out of ohio st. in fact i think anyone in the top 5 would smoke osu. i see something over the horizon :2 cents:

 

[spacearrow99]

What they're actually thinking is whether they can win at trial.

Again rape is a very violent crime and you don't let someone who think committed a rape stay in society. I have a pretty good idea why the SAO is taking its time with this case.

 

[D-rock]

bama fans dont make excuses. we got beat. i want to say at least one bama fan did not agree with kicking a 57 yd field goal with one second on the clock. had i been coaching we may have lost the game. but they would have beat us in overtime. that is all i got at the moment. but i will be back. :

In hindsight it might seem like a bad decision, but it was the tactically sound one and the right one. A field goal try was still probably more likely than a hail marry pass. There was no sense in kneeling it down and giving up on a free play. It would have been foolish to just give up a play that has even a decently marginal chance of wining the game with the possible downside being very close to zero since it's only had happened for times in NCAA history. A block and a return was also extremely unlikely. Even if the field goal had only a 5%, even a 1% chance of going in, the statistics are still in their favor. That the downside that's was very close to zero actually happening somehow doesn't change that. If anything the biggest fault was that Alabama wasn't more prepared for the possibility of a runback if things went wrong and more ready for it.

 

[smoknn]

In hindsight it might seem like a bad decision, but it was the tactically sound one and the right one. A field goal try was still probably more likely than a hail marry pass. There was no sense in kneeling it down and giving up on a free play. It would have been foolish to just give up a play that has even a decently marginal chance of wining the game with the possible downside being very close to zero since it's only had happened for times in NCAA history. A block and a return was also extremely unlikely. Even if the field goal had only a 5%, even a 1% chance of going in, the statistics are still in their favor. That the downside that's was very close to zero actually happening somehow doesn't change that. If anything the biggest fault was that Alabama wasn't more prepared for the possibility of a runback if things went wrong and more ready for it.

allow me to disagree.....a hail marry was a thought. but a 57 yd fg was out of the question. the thing to have did was punt it to a up man and take it to overtime. that was the most bone headed decision i have ever seen a alabama coached team make. had the fg been 25 yds i agree 100% but at 57 yds? i figured they would block it before he kicked.

 

[ritingfunny@yah]

Again rape is a very violent crime and you don't let someone who think committed a rape stay in society. I have a pretty good idea why the SAO is taking its time with this case.

No disrespect intended, but do you have a pretty good idea why they're taking their time, or are you HOPING that's why they're taking their time? As they have repeatedly stated, this is not the only case they're dealing with. I realize it has important college football ramifications, but there are other cases on their dockets, and the last thing any prosecutor needs is the public perception that he or she will drop everything to take care of a football matter. Yes, rape is a serious crime, but how naive are you to think they don't let someone who committed a rape stay in society? That's a decision a JURY makes, and until a JURY makes that decision, Jameis Winston is considered innocent. If prosecutors treat him any other way, or even if it's perceived they treated him any other way, their case will be ruined, and their careers will be deeply affected.

 

[spacearrow99]

No disrespect intended, but do you have a pretty good idea why they're taking their time, or are you HOPING that's why they're taking their time? As they have repeatedly stated, this is not the only case they're dealing with. I realize it has important college football ramifications, but there are other cases on their dockets, and the last thing any prosecutor needs is the public perception that he or she will drop everything to take care of a football matter. Yes, rape is a serious crime, but how naive are you to think they don't let someone who committed a rape stay in society? That's a decision a JURY makes, and until a JURY makes that decision, Jameis Winston is considered innocent. If prosecutors treat him any other way, or even if it's perceived they treated him any other way, their case will be ruined, and their careers will be deeply affected.

I know Winston will get bail. But the SAO would've already charged him, if they had the evidence. Willie Meggs' findings will be public record and he's taking his time to make sure, he hasn't missed anything. I'm not worried about Winston getting charged nor is any FSU football insider.

 

[lurkingdirk]

The AP is out:

AP Top 25
RK TEAM RECORD PTS
1 Florida State (58) 12-0 1498
2 Ohio State 12-0 1418
3 Auburn (2) 11-1 1387
4 Alabama 11-1 1294
5 Missouri 11-1 1281
6 Oklahoma State 10-1 1197
7 Stanford 10-2 1067
8 South Carolina 10-2 1066
9 Baylor 10-1 1020
10 Michigan State 11-1 1002
11 Arizona State 10-2 843
12 Oregon 10-2 815
13 Clemson 10-2 813
14 LSU 9-3 690
15 UCF 10-1 621
16 Northern Illinois 12-0 596
17 UCLA 9-3 510
18 Oklahoma 9-2 503
19 Louisville 10-1 482
20 Duke 10-2 348
21 Wisconsin 9-3 299
22 Texas A&M 8-4 186
23 Texas 8-3 156
24 Fresno State 10-1 124
25 Georgia 8-4 111

 

[smoknn]

allow me to disagree.....a hail marry was a thought. but a 57 yd fg was out of the question. the thing to have did was punt it to a up man and take it to overtime. that was the most bone headed decision i have ever seen a alabama coached team make. had the fg been 25 yds i agree 100% but at 57 yds? i figured they would block it before he kicked.

let me correct myself it wasnt fourth down but a knee was the call
or a hail mary.

 

[Baill Inneraora]

Actually the schedule really isn't OSU's fault. When OSU scheded the game against Cal, the Bears were ranked #1 back 8ish years ago. OSU had a non conference game scheduled against Vanderbilt, but they canceled it last October.... The buckeyes were left scrambling to find an opponent and all they could come up with was San Diego St.

 

[D-rock]

the thing to have did was punt it to a up man and take it to overtime. that was the most bone headed decision i have ever seen a alabama coached team make.

Your telling me you wouldn't take a slim chance to win it all there with almost no downside over something that has virtually no chance to win it with about the same amount of downside? Punting gave the team almost ZERO chance to win with that play, and even though the near inexplicable did happened, the downside of failure on a field goal attempt was about the same as a punt. No, offense, but your reasoning is in no way logical at all. It doesn't make any sense. A coach is supposed to make decisions that gives him the best chance to win when they are made. You can't judge a tactically superior decision that doesn't work out as worse than a tactically inferior decision because of hindsight about the result.

 

[Connor Macleod]

More thoughts on the Iron Bowl:

I was listening to sports radio on my way into work this morning and many of the announcers are calling that last play as one of the top 3 of all time. The only 2 that come close:

1982 – Cal (6-4) vs Stanford (5-5): Cal wins on the final play with a 5-lateral kickoff return.
1984 – BCU (8-2) vs Miami (8-3): BCU wins on the final play with a hail mary pass from Doug Flutie.

In my opinion, the Auburn play has to rank better because of what was on the line. The winner goes to the Conference Championship with a potential shot at the National Title.

In reading an article on Yahoo, that last play was mentioned; a field goal return had only been accomplished 3 other times in the history of college football, and this was the first time it happened on the final play of the game. Wow!

If anyone didn't watched the Missouri game, near the end, Brent Musburger posed a question to Kirk Herbstreit,

“Do you think the Auburn fans are done celebrating yet?”​

Herbstreit,’s response,

“No, that celebration is gonna last 365 days!”​

Lastly, I saw this funny comment on Yahoo:

I noticed after the game that Saban's and McCarron's pants were wet from the knees down when they realized they were no longer able to walk on water.