DUSTIN PEDROIA is the AL MVP? Are you KIDDING ME?!?!?!?! What in the fuck is going on with this bullshit voting?
who should have won?
Lets face it, the RedSox really would have been in trouble without Pedrioa.
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who should have won?
Lets face it, the RedSox really would have been in trouble without Pedrioa.
DUSTIN PEDROIA is the AL MVP? Are you KIDDING ME?!?!?!?! What in the fuck is going on with this bullshit voting?
I know I plugged Pedroia earlier on in this thread, but in hindsight he probably shouldn't have won it. I think Justin Morneau should have won it. He means a lot more to his team than any other candidate and the Twins went down to a one game playoff (163rd game) before being eliminated from the final playoff spot, which is pretty impressive considering they had lost Johan Santana and Torii Hunter in the offseason.
ChefChiTown
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who should have won?
Lets face it, the RedSox really would have been in trouble without Pedrioa.
Personally, I think that Carlos Quentin should've gotten the award. I know that a lot of people will disagree with that, but Carlos Quentin had the biggest impact of any player for any team in the entire AL. Yes, he had a good supporting cast around him, but Carlos Quentin was the player that had the major impact on the Sox's success.
Justin Morneau was definitely one of the most impactful players in the AL for his team. If I didn't believe that Quentin should've won the AL MVP, I would give Morneau a close 2nd place.
I agree with the Quentin pick, unfortunately he got into a fight with his bat and lost. With him missing the end of the year made the AL MVP a toss up at that point. Good for Pedroia, with him being 5 foot nothing, 100 nothing and a spec of athletic ability, but he came in got dirty, played damn good defense and swung the stick as hard as he could.:hatsoff:
Two reasons why I dont agree with Quentin:
1) He got injured and only played in 130 games.
2) The White Sox still made the playoff's. That right there tells me he wasnt the MVP of the White Sox because even after he got hurt they still made a run for the playoff's, fought off the Twins, and made it. All without him.
Thats just my :2 cents:
Sucks for Morneau the only reason he didnt win it was because his homeruns where down. I feel he probably should have won it and then Pedrioa.
My opinion of course.
ChefChiTown
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Yes, Quentin did get hurt which, ironically, hurt his chances of winning the AL MVP. But, after Quentin went down to his injury, the White Sox went into somewhat of a slump and ended up letting Minnesota catch up to them in the standings. I agree that he had a good supporting cast, but so did Pedroia.
The Red Sox had 2 players that were in contention for the AL MVP; Dustin Pedroia and Kevin Youkilis. If Pedroia would've went down (as Quentin did), the Red Sox still would've had an AL MVP candidate on their active roster. Not to mention, the Red Sox had a much, much better pitching staff than the White Sox. Daisuke Matsuzaka (who, IMO, could've been an AL MVP candidate as well) and Jon Lester had excellent years on the mound, which were also great contributors to the Red Sox success.
I'm not trying to say that Dustin Pedroia didn't have a good year, because he did...but I don't think he was the most valuable player to his individual team.
:2 cents:
But, you're right about Morneau. If he would've hit just a few more HRs, I bet he would've won AL MVP.
maildude
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Furcal helped save you a mint. :2 cents:
The only way Holliday is gone at the deadline is if the A's aren't even close to contention. Unless the market for Holliday improves drastically (which may or may not happen) I can't see any package from another team being better than the two draft picks the A's would get from Holliday as a Type A FA. I like this trade honestly, because in the long run it fits the A's either way. Yes, we did give up someone I was very high on in Carlos Gonzalez, but everyone else in the deal was expendable. Greg Smith can possibly fit into the rotation at Coors as a number 5 starter, but he just doesn't have the stuff to be anything higher. Huston is still really, really good, but he can't seem to stay healthy, and he's hit his peak in terms of value, and that's sad considering this season really hurt his value. Thing is though, that the A's have got Joey Devine who is better, younger, and cheaper. I think that in order to get the best value out of this trade though, that Eric Chavez has to be his pre 2005 self again and just be healthy. If that's the case, I can easily see the A's winning anywhere from 80-92 games.
I think, currently, its going to be tough for anyone in the AL west to compete with the Angels.
They have a ****er pitching staff, superstars on offense and defense, and where they dont have superstars they have above average players filling out the rest of the line up.
The A's a still a couple years away from doing anything significant.
The Angels are not as good as they played this season. They had so many things go right at the same time that it just doesn't make any sense for it to carry over. The improvement in their starting pitching was an anomaly. You look down the list of Lackey, Santana, Saunders, Weaver, and Moseley (I'm neglective Escobar for obvious reasons), they all had absolutely rediculous improvements in one year from their career averages in most categories.
Lackey for his career has had an adjusted ERA of about 4.55, (which is also where Escobar falls). Now the fact that this year he had a 3 something era is a little misleading because of its deviation from his career average. Add in that he's striking out people at a lower rate, walking nearly twice as many as his career average, giving up nearly twice as many home runs, and has a fly-ball rating that has consistently gone up over the course of his career, and you have a recipe for deviation. In all honesty, the rest of the rotation is in the same boat, as three of those four other guys had nearly a full run drop from their career ERA and adjusted ERA. I'm sorry, but that just doesn't happen, and it's unrealistic to expect that they can be that successful again. I'm not saying that they can't be successful at all, merely not at that rate. Saunders had a great season, one that is eerily reminiscent of a Carlos Silva, and he's well, not the same.
I will give credit though, there are a couple of offensively talented players on that team, namely Guerrero, Napoli, and Hunter. Outside of that though, nearly everyone on their roster is either league average or below in terms of run value. Defensively, Aybar is above league average, as is Matthews, however every single other starter is at or below league average, and yes that includes Torii Hunter.
How far are the A's from contention? Not as far as you may think. While I don't necessarily think trading for Holliday will transform the team, the division is probably going to be weak next year, and who knows, the A's could actually compete.
Lackey for his career has had an adjusted ERA of about 4.55, (which is also where Escobar falls). Now the fact that this year he had a 3 something era is a little misleading because of its deviation from his career average. Add in that he's striking out people at a lower rate, walking nearly twice as many as his career average, giving up nearly twice as many home runs, and has a fly-ball rating that has consistently gone up over the course of his career, and you have a recipe for deviation. In all honesty, the rest of the rotation is in the same boat, as three of those four other guys had nearly a full run drop from their career ERA and adjusted ERA. I'm sorry, but that just doesn't happen, and it's unrealistic to expect that they can be that successful again. I'm not saying that they can't be successful at all, merely not at that rate. Saunders had a great season, one that is eerily reminiscent of a Carlos Silva, and he's well, not the same.
I will give credit though, there are a couple of offensively talented players on that team, namely Guerrero, Napoli, and Hunter. Outside of that though, nearly everyone on their roster is either league average or below in terms of run value. Defensively, Aybar is above league average, as is Matthews, however every single other starter is at or below league average, and yes that includes Torii Hunter.
How far are the A's from contention? Not as far as you may think. While I don't necessarily think trading for Holliday will transform the team, the division is probably going to be weak next year, and who knows, the A's could actually compete.
Montreal Expos will win in the National league!
We are in 1994 right?
yes but if something doesn't happen it probably will not
ChefChiTown
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Also, K-Rod signed with the Mets. Apparently NY isn't being hit by this "financial crisis". Maybe I should move there...
And the Mets also landed Puttz in a trade.
Should be intresting to see where Texiera lands. If he is smart he will wont sign with the Nationals.
ChefChiTown
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Getting KRod and Putz is great (and long overdue), but Mets still need 2 starters and a LF. I want them to go for broke and sign Lowe, Sheets/Perez, and Manny and maybe some middle relief. This team has the tendercy to sit on its hands and do nothing when it comes to its critical needs (see Bullpen the last 2 years) so I hope this time Omar will finally get around to upgrade the team to championship caliber level.
So the Dodgers re-sign Furcal, meh. Right now we have a mediocre team with average pitching and absolutely no power. We basically have the sorry Dodgers from a year before last year. Frank McCheap better step it up, he's not impressing anybody. I heard on the radio that Frank McCheap said that he's not sure the fans would be down with him spending a lot of money on the team with the current economic situation the country is in.
Lame. Artie Moreno should've bought the team.
Lame. Artie Moreno should've bought the team.
