Rush Limbaugh Stands by Haiti Comments

[pigjoy]

I just have to say as an outsider, this is one of the most ridiculous threads I've ever read.

Everything a politician does is for political gain, and I don't mean that in a bad way. I mean - people will examine every decision a politician makes and judge them based on it. Basically what I hear Rush and the Republicans saying here is:


"Obama did the right moral thing, so now people will be more inclined to support him, and that is bad for us".


That's what they mean by Obama did this for political gain.




And to those of you that think this $100 million would have been better spent on manufacturing jobs or a middle class bail out, oh my goodness. The shortsightedness of some americans is absolutely bewildering.

Your city just crumbled and at least a few of your ****** members are probably dead or wounded. You've spent 3 days under 4000lbs of concrete in 30 degree heat with no food or water. Let me know if you want a hand getting out of there, or if you'd prefer we just build a few more fords.

 

[Mrs Jolly]

I just have to say as an outsider, this is one of the most ridiculous threads I've ever read.

Everything a politician does is for political gain, and I don't mean that in a bad way. I mean - people will examine every decision a politician makes and judge them based on it. Basically what I hear Rush and the Republicans saying here is:


"Obama did the right moral thing, so now people will be more inclined to support him, and that is bad for us".


That's what they mean by Obama did this for political gain.




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Not people; minorities, this all being done for the benefit of minorities. I have no idea what they are but there you have it, apparently they are something to do with reputaions that need burnishing.

This "us" do you think Rush and his audience consider "minorities" to be part of it?

 

[Marlo Manson]

yours and the one previous.
its just that here on this board you rarely see a conservative type talking like a 15 year old punk.
its like that around the country too.
I think it says alot about the state of society in the USA.

you can say what you want of course, not denying anyone that.
I just see so much hatred and diviseveness coming from the liberal side from everywhere. its sad.
This country under Bush regarding Katrina did alot for those people and that city, probably more than any other country would have.
Obviously there were problems, but it was a disaster.
I doubt we will see the Haitian people after this mess is over condemning their PREZ for what happened because theyre not manipulated by a pro dem, biased news media.

Hmmm talking like a 15 year old punk... OK reality time, how long did it take bush too cordinate/callout, give the greenlight for relief for the victims of Katrina? monday nobody came, tuesday nobody came, wednesday nobody came, thursday nobody came, so Friday rolls around and help finally arrives, how many days did it take for bush to get his **** together?

I find that plenty good reason enough to critizie how bush and his cronies handled Katrina, granted the PEOPLE did alot to help N.Orleans but the Government was the LAST to show up!!!

PRESIDENT BUSH has NO excuse for the way relief and rescue didn't come for 60 to 80 hours after Katrina devastated the region. on the other hand talking about Haiti's people condeming its government is like apples and oranges!!

Haiti's government is very limited to what it can do they are not a wealthy country. Bush on the otherhand for example spent trillions on an ******* war, but yet always earmarked great sums of $ for things that just didn't make a whole lot of sense??? So I ask, who is gonna question what the GOP is doing when its lining its own pockets and sweating the poor and middle class and showing they DIDN'T GIVE A FLYING FUCK ABOUT LOUISIANA??

Now put all political factions aside for a minute, NO GOP, NO DEMS.. JUST the REALITY of what BUSH'S ADMINISTRATION DID AND DIDN'T DO in the aftermath of Katrina... do you think BUSH is NOT responsible for the DELAY in RESCUE and AID after Katrina?? how do you think the majority of americans feel about what our government did to help louisiana? I'd say most regardless of their political affiliations will say THE GOVERNMENT FUCKED UP!! who was the commander and chief?? thats whose fault it is.. I don't see how it can be thought of any other way? theirs NO EXCUSE for the way the whole Katrina aftermath was handled... NONE. :2 cents:

 

[Gordar]

I doubt we will see the Haitian people after this mess is over condemning their PREZ for what happened because theyre not manipulated by a pro dem, biased news media.

Except that every foreigner that doesn't have essential bussiness there is asked to leave before the people start a revolt.

 

[om3ga]

I just have to say as an outsider, this is one of the most ridiculous threads I've ever read.

Everything a politician does is for political gain, and I don't mean that in a bad way. I mean - people will examine every decision a politician makes and judge them based on it. Basically what I hear Rush and the Republicans saying here is:


"Obama did the right moral thing, so now people will be more inclined to support him, and that is bad for us".


That's what they mean by Obama did this for political gain.




And to those of you that think this $100 million would have been better spent on manufacturing jobs or a middle class bail out, oh my goodness. The shortsightedness of some americans is absolutely bewildering.

Your city just crumbled and at least a few of your ****** members are probably dead or wounded. You've spent 3 days under 4000lbs of concrete in 30 degree heat with no food or water. Let me know if you want a hand getting out of there, or if you'd prefer we just build a few more fords.

I have to agree...

It's one thing to be anti-Obama - after all we should respect each other's freedom of speech...
But to be anti-Obama after the Prez decides to help a nation struck by a devastating natural disaster, which has ****** tens of thousands?

Pathetic, simply pathetic...

 

[Hot Mega]

I just have to say as an outsider, this is one of the most ridiculous threads I've ever read.

Everything a politician does is for political gain, and I don't mean that in a bad way. I mean - people will examine every decision a politician makes and judge them based on it. Basically what I hear Rush and the Republicans saying here is:


"Obama did the right moral thing, so now people will be more inclined to support him, and that is bad for us".


That's what they mean by Obama did this for political gain.




And to those of you that think this $100 million would have been better spent on manufacturing jobs or a middle class bail out, oh my goodness. The shortsightedness of some americans is absolutely bewildering.

Your city just crumbled and at least a few of your ****** members are probably dead or wounded. You've spent 3 days under 4000lbs of concrete in 30 degree heat with no food or water. Let me know if you want a hand getting out of there, or if you'd prefer we just build a few more fords.

No. What he is saying is Obama wouldn't otherwise do it if there weren't a sole political calculation at it's core.

Other than the fact that it would be politically untenable for Obama to have done nothing (since all presidents have done the similar and would have done the same) I'm still not seeing this political advantage Obama accrues for doing
what anyone else would have done.

Rush is attempting (though fail miserably) to make the case with no evidence whatsoever that there is no moral or obligatory component to any action Obama takes. That every action is a political calculus...in other words Obama doesn't stand for one single thing except for politics (remarkably funny when you consider the source). What reasonable person believes that?

That is the case he's trying to make. What he"s ultimately trying to do is hijack the circumstance and get a back and forth going which further divides.

Rush's shtick is to find a political divide in every circumstance and where there is none, create one. The more us versus them wedges there are the more currency there is collected by his type. Never miss an opportunity to exploit a big ticket news story for politics is their game.

 

[Jack Davenport]

No. What he is saying is Obama wouldn't otherwise do it if there weren't a sole political calculation at it's core.

Other than the fact that it would be politically untenable for Obama to have done nothing (since all presidents have done the similar and would have done the same) I'm still not seeing this political advantage Obama accrues for doing
what anyone else would have done.

Rush is attempting (though fail miserably) to make the case with no evidence whatsoever that there is no moral or obligatory component to any action Obama takes. That every action is a political calculus...in other words Obama doesn't stand for one single thing except for politics (remarkably funny when you consider the source). What reasonable person believes that.

That is the case he's trying to make. What he ultimately is trying to do is hijack the circumstance and get a back and forth going that further divides.

Rush's shtick is to find to find a political divide in every circumstance and where there is none, create one. The more us versus them wedges there are the more currency there is collected by his type.

You are awful concerned about someone who only has a "shtick".


Shall we expect a dissertation on the Three Stooges or Henny Youngman in the near future?

 

[Hot Mega]

You are awful concerned about someone who only has a "shtick".


Shall we expect a dissertation on the Three Stooges or Henny Youngman in the near future?

No. You and the other two are speaking quite clearly for yourselves here.:thumbsup:

 

[Jack Davenport]

No. You and the other two are speaking quite clearly for yourselves here.:thumbsup:

Gotcha, Hardy.... or are you Laurel?

 

[Alyssa Rose]

I would stand by those comments as well. If you don't think the Obama administration can and will exploit/use (let's not argue semantics) this for political gain, you're being very naive. As I said in the other thread, I'm not giving any aid on my own. The government will throw away enough money to cover for all of us before this is over.

Honestly I would too, I mean 100 million in relief aid? Do you think if a horrible natural disaster struck America, Haiti would be handing over 100 million dollars in 'relief aid'?? Uhh I think not. You know why? Because Haiti doesn't HAVE 100 million to hand over, AND NEITHER DOES THE US, but does that stop Obama from wanting to play superman? No. He needs to put HIS country first and then worry about the other countries. He is President of The United States of America, NOT the whole world. That's like those people (Angelina Jolie, etc.) who adopt **** from China and Africa when we have starving **** on the streets in America in almost every city, why not adopt a *** that needs your help here? I mean seriously.

 

[Hot Mega]

Honestly I would too, I mean 100 million in relief aid? Do you think if a horrible natural disaster struck America, Haiti would be handing over 100 million dollars in 'relief aid'?? Uhh I think not. You know why? Because Haiti doesn't HAVE 100 million to hand over, AND NEITHER DOES THE US, but does that stop Obama from wanting to play superman? No. He needs to put HIS country first and then worry about the other countries. He is President of The United States of America, NOT the whole world. That's like those people (Angelina Jolie, etc.) who adopt **** from China and Africa when we have starving **** on the streets in America in almost every city, why not adopt a *** that needs your help here? I mean seriously.

HSS what's the basis for saying we don't have $100m worth of relief effort to assist Haiti with? Like I said in a previous post...there are lottery prizes in this country larger than that.

Just because the US borrows money doesn't mean we don't have money. Like, just because a person borrows money to buy a home or a car doesn't mean they're broke.

But the big ol' US of A requested aid for Katrina.:2 cents: We live in one world.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/04/katrina.world.aid/

Even poor ass Venezuela under the hated Hugo Chavez offered to help us after Katrina.

 

[Will E Worm]

But the big ol' US of A requested aid for Katrina.:2 cents: We live in one world.

:nono:

Even poor ass Venezuela under the hated Hugo Chavez offered to help us after Katrina.

And, we said...:nono: :tongue:

 

[Alyssa Rose]

HSS what's the basis for saying we don't have $100m worth of relief effort to assist Haiti with? Like I said in a previous post...there are lottery prizes in this country larger than that.

Just because the US borrows money doesn't mean we don't have money. Like, just because a person borrows money to buy a home or a car doesn't mean they're broke.

But the big ol' US of A requested aid for Katrina.:2 cents: We live in one world.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/04/katrina.world.aid/

Even poor ass Venezuela under the hated Hugo Chavez offered to help us after Katrina.

Well if we have the money, Shouldn't we be using it to get out of this downward spiral we've been going down? Shouldn't we use it to create more jobs, I think Haiti is a serious situation and extremely sad but I don't think that it should be 'first priority' for Obama. Thats just me :2 cents:

 

[Facetious]

Hmm...Okie...

Now that's quite ingenious (no, it really is). So Obama is sending relief aid to a disparate place rocked by natural disaster (an action every president has done, does and will continue to do) so that he can garner the votes of those he plans to grant citizenship?

Obama is sending CASH ! I am opposed to government involvement in any monetary aid whatsoever without full transparency, itemization and disclosure.

verify verify verify :hatsoff:

The proud democrats and republicans are wed to their political orientation and therefore, never demand accountability... big problem !

:hammer:
:yahoo:

 

[Hot Mega]

Well if we have the money, Shouldn't we be using it to get out of this downward spiral we've been going down? Shouldn't we use it to create more jobs, I think Haiti is a serious situation and extremely sad but I don't think that it should be 'first priority' for Obama. Thats just me :2 cents:

:dunno:

Well HSS b/c we have people who have fundamental beliefs over practical realities. And the first chance Obama got to attempt to send money to cash strapped states to get the country moving again.

You have Governors for political reasons attempt to refuse it, don't spend it and fight the effort tooth and nail.

In one case, a soon to be ex Gov. known for an affair with a South American news reporter had to actually be sued by a 16 year old to ***** him to take stimulus money.

So..Rush is right in that sense...some people are just about politics.

 

[raychik]

No. What he is saying is Obama wouldn't otherwise do it if there weren't a sole political calculation at it's core.

Other than the fact that it would be politically untenable for Obama to have done nothing (since all presidents have done the similar and would have done the same) I'm still not seeing this political advantage Obama accrues for doing
what anyone else would have done.

Seriously, how could you possibly know that that is his main motivating factor? Sounds like conjecture on your part and Rush's denizens. It doesn't matter what Obama does...he will get criticized for it, just because he is a democrat...If Obama didn't offer aid, he'd be painted as an uncaring ******* by the right; he offered aid so now he's only doing it for political gain. Sounds like baseless stupidity to me.

 

[Hot Mega]

I am opposed to government involvement in any monetary aid whatsoever without full transparency, itemization and disclosure.

verify verify verify

Is that a "new deal" for you Facetious...or are you being just being facetious.

'Cause I should certainly be able to sift through your some 8600 posts here and find the exact same demands from you while $12-$16 billion American greenies where going over to Iraq in exchange for dead Americans if not. Right?:o:nannerf1:

 

[LukeEl]

This guy is going to end up stealing all the aid money anyway so what's the use :dunno:

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[Hot Mega]

Seriously, how could you possibly now that that is his main motivating factor? Sounds like conjecture on your part and Rush's denizens. It doesn't matter what Obama does...he will get criticized for it, just because he is a democrat...If Obama didn't offer aid, he'd be painted as an uncaring ******* by the right; he offered aid so now he's only doing it for political gain. Sounds like baseless stupidity to me.

I don't agree with Rush J/P. Read the context of my post...I am stating what I believe Rush is saying and attempting to do.

 

[raychik]

I don't agree with Rush J/P. Read the context of my post...I am stating what I believe Rush is saying and attempting to do.

Oops lol. I 'quoted' the wrong person.