Rush Limbaugh Stands by Haiti Comments

[pusser]

I used to listen to his "show" a few years back.On the radio.I traveled 72 miles from work each day.Back in 2005 him an his part time host,Mark Belling used to say Debt was good for the economy.Now they are blaming the ENTIRE national debt on Obama...Both a joke,both not worth listening to for truth.But good for a good laugh.

 

[Rey C.]

Chef, as I recall we spent approximately 26 billion total on foreign aid last year.
Meanwhile from our 2009 federal budget we spent 360 billion on welfare/unemployment, 408 billion on medicare, 224 billion on medicaid and SHIP. So as you can see, the money we send to other countries is a drop in the bucket compared to what we spend at home.

I thought there was a bullseye smilie here. I guess not. Anyway, BULLSEYE! :thumbsup:

 

[ChefChiTown]

Chef, as I recall we spent approximately 26 billion total on foreign aid last year.
Meanwhile from our 2009 federal budget we spent 360 billion on welfare/unemployment, 408 billion on medicare, 224 billion on medicaid and SHIP. So as you can see, the money we send to other countries is a drop in the bucket compared to what we spend at home.

$26 BILLION? That's a pretty huge drop. And, the system in which we use that money isn't working, which is why our healthcare system is in shambles. If we used that money properly, things might actually work. But, that's another story.

Do you realize how much help that $26 BILLION could've provided our own citizens? With that money, we could almost completely eliminate homelessness in this country. But, no...we'll just give it away and let our own citizens starve and die.

*EDIT

You know how I was talking about how this help we're providing other countries isn't really doing anything? That it's just delaying the inevitable? Well, we've actually provided Haiti with large sums of money recently and it hasn't made a bit of difference.

Washington -- The United States has pledged almost $210 million in additional funds over the next year to help in Haiti's economic recovery, announced Thomas Shannon, the State Department's top policymaker for Latin America and the Caribbean.

Shannon said that the United States has disbursed more than $390 million to Haiti in the two years since a donors' conference for Haiti was held in Washington in July 2004. That makes the United States the largest single-country donor to Haiti. At that Washington conference, the United States pledged $230 million but gone far beyond that commitment.

http://www.america.gov/st/washfile-english/2006/July/20060727140036AEneerG0.2416345.html

So, just recently, we dished out nearly a half BILLION dollars to Haiti but it still manages to be the poorest country in the entire Western Hemisphere. It still remains a country in shambles. It still remains a destitute country. Money well spent, huh?

 

[meesterperfect]

fellas? guys?
Ladies:hatsoff:
Um , yeah ah if chef doesnt think foriegn aid is necessary or even helpful why cant you just let him feel that way?
Hello? Is this on?

 

[Will E Worm]

Chef, as I recall we spent approximately 26 billion total on foreign aid last year.
Meanwhile from our 2009 federal budget we spent 360 billion on welfare/unemployment, 408 billion on medicare, 224 billion on medicaid and SHIP. So as you can see, the money we send to other countries is a drop in the bucket compared to what we spend at home.

Who cares. We use a lot of money here and we need to use more.

American money in America! We need to rebuild our country back to its former glory.

fellas? guys?
Ladies:hatsoff:
Um , yeah ah if chef doesnt think foriegn aid is necessary or even helpful why cant you just let him feel that way?
Hello? Is this on?

:hatsoff:

 

[Supafly]

The other option would be of course to let a lot of people die while pondering if maybe they could need some help.

Limbaugh should answer to that.

 

[ChefChiTown]

fellas? guys?
Ladies:hatsoff:
Um , yeah ah if chef doesnt think foriegn aid is necessary or even helpful why cant you just let him feel that way?
Hello? Is this on?

Whaaaaat? People being allowed to have their own opinions on FreeOnes? You crazy.

 

[bodie54]

$26 BILLION? That's a pretty huge drop.

The federal budget for 2009 was 3.1 trillion.
If I did my math right, 26 billion is about 8 tenths of one percent of that budget.

If you're of the opinion that foreign aid does us little or no good, then of course you're going to see even that tiny % as wasteful. But naturally there are those on the other side who think that in the big picture it's money well spent.

 

[Philbert]

The other option would be of course to let a lot of people die while pondering if maybe they could need some help.

Limbaugh should answer to that.

Deep thinking too much work for ya?

When did Haiti become Limbaugh's responsibility?

Or the US of A's?
What...Russia's money isn't good enough, or Germany's?
Where did all the hundreds of Millions we put in Haiti already go?
Borrow it back from Aristide...we need all the money we got with the Trillions Obama is spending with Pelosi and the Demotards.
If all the Aid orgs already in Haiti aren't doing anything we need to investigate where the Billions of Dollars donated to them go, both the faith based orgs and the secular ones like the Red Cross.
Are their execs taking too much vacation time in the Bahamas or in their Swiss chateaus?
Why is it OK for the US to interfere in another countries affairs only when they want our money or military protection?

If all this makes your head hurt, take some Excedrin and Google the answers like the other Demotards here like to do.
Don't think too hard...:rofl:

 

[MILF Man]

Deep thinking too much work for ya?

When did Haiti become Limbaugh's responsibility?

Or the US of A's?
What...Russia's money isn't good enough, or Germany's?
Where did all the hundreds of Millions we put in Haiti already go?
Borrow it back from Aristide...we need all the money we got with the Trillions Obama is spending with Pelosi and the Demotards.
If all the Aid orgs already in Haiti aren't doing anything we need to investigate where the Billions of Dollars donated to them go, both the faith based orgs and the secular ones like the Red Cross.
Are their execs taking too much vacation time in the Bahamas or in their Swiss chateaus?
Why is it OK for the US to interfere in another countries affairs only when they want our money or military protection?

If all this makes your head hurt, take some Excedrin and Google the answers like the other Demotards here like to do.
Don't think too hard...:rofl:

Well said! I've been wondering a lot about the same points you've just made.

 

[HELLRAISER]

I used to listen to his "show" a few years back.On the radio.I traveled 72 miles from work each day.Back in 2005 him an his part time host,Mark Belling used to say Debt was good for the economy.Now they are blaming the ENTIRE national debt on Obama...Both a joke,both not worth listening to for truth.But good for a good laugh.

I hope you didn't follow that NeoCon dipshit's advice and get yourself indebted

 

[Wainkerr99]

American money should have been spent in Haiti. Houses should have been built, pools constructed, an infrastructure built, jobs provided.

Wait, hang on a bit, the earthquake would have destroyed that too.

 

[Supafly]

Deep thinking too much work for ya?

When did Haiti become Limbaugh's responsibility?

Or the US of A's?
What...Russia's money isn't good enough, or Germany's?
Where did all the hundreds of Millions we put in Haiti already go?
Borrow it back from Aristide...we need all the money we got with the Trillions Obama is spending with Pelosi and the Demotards.
If all the Aid orgs already in Haiti aren't doing anything we need to investigate where the Billions of Dollars donated to them go, both the faith based orgs and the secular ones like the Red Cross.
Are their execs taking too much vacation time in the Bahamas or in their Swiss chateaus?
Why is it OK for the US to interfere in another countries affairs only when they want our money or military protection?

If all this makes your head hurt, take some Excedrin and Google the answers like the other Demotards here like to do.
Don't think too hard...:rofl:

Massive amounts of people dying. Richer countries have the damned obligation to help.

Plus check the export numbers from the USA to Haiti

http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/statistics/product/enduse/exports/c2450.html

You make a nice profit off Haiti, now its payback time.

Not mentioning, you are a christian country, you will sit there and watch them die?

Think :2 cents:

 

[Rey C.]

fellas? guys?
Ladies:hatsoff:
Um , yeah ah if chef doesnt think foriegn aid is necessary or even helpful why cant you just let him feel that way?
Hello? Is this on?

If Chef's position is that he's against ALL forms of foreign aid, then he is one of the very few on here (who has an issue with this Haitian aid) who at least has a consistent position. If he wants to attack the entire foreign aid budget, then that's another thing altogether. It's the people on here, who are whining about this $100 million to Haiti, when far larger sums go to other nations, that aren't making any logical sense, IMO.

Like I said before, many people have a tendency to worry about the dime, and will jump over the dollar to get to it. It's my understanding that the waste, fraud and abuse in the Medicare system amounts to something like $50 billion a year. Chef mentioned something about this $100 mil going to help Americans with their healthcare concerns. Well, how about some portion of that $50 billion???!!! Even the worst analyst should be able to find 10% of the waste, and that would be $5 billion a year. But when there was talk last year about Medicare cuts, the recent converts to (faux) fiscal conservatism in Congress (the post-Reagan "conservatives") squealed like stuck pigs and told people that Obama was trying to kill off the old people. McCain had even suggested cuts, by way of waste reduction, himself during the campaign. Some people just make it too easy to call Bullshit! on them.

I think that Chef and everybody else on here has a right to their opinions. And actually, I'm not aware that anyone has told him that he doesn't have that right. But if you post on a message board, people might challenge your ideas from time to time. What's wrong with that? :dunno:

 

[Hot Mega]

Weren't some of these same phony hypocrites the biggest "humanitarians" when it came to justifying American blood and treasure for "Iraqi Freedom"?

Just sayin' situation ethics...:tongue:

 

[meesterperfect]

No they werent mega.
mega what would you like?
anybody?
#1 people around the world donate billions to haiti?
#2 the usa going there for immediate relief, helping the rescue?
# 3 the usa giving hundreds of millions or even a billion or so to haiti for help?
#4 the usa continuing to send money, people there to rebuild and reconstruct the place, which will obviously costs billions over time?
I know you and others want the first 3, but how much is enough, and when should it stop if ever?
Is haiti now the taxpayers of the USA''s responsibilty, even more so than they have been since way before the quake?

 

[BioDefenseGrad]

Continued at link.....

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/01/15/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry6100434.shtml

Re: Rush's comments....He's politicizing a catastrophic tragedy by accusing a politician for what he believes he will do?

<Where was Rush on Bush's nearly $1 billion to Indonesia for tsunami aid and relief?>

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/02/09/tsunami.aid/

Again, how can you take him seriously?

As far as the National Review comments; Uh aren't we talking about emergency aid and relief...WTF does this have to do with the internal politics of Haiti???

We should add to that 100 million by supporting Senegal's tentative offer to relocate Haitians there.

 

[Hot Mega]

No they werent mega.
mega what would you like?
anybody?
#1 people around the world donate billions to haiti?
#2 the usa going there for immediate relief, helping the rescue?
# 3 the usa giving hundreds of millions or even a billion or so to haiti for help?
#4 the usa continuing to send money, people there to rebuild and reconstruct the place, which will obviously costs billions over time?
I know you and others want the first 3, but how much is enough, and when should it stop if ever?
Is haiti now the taxpayers of the USA''s responsibilty, even more so than they have been since way before the quake?

What don't you get??? In circumstances of natural disasters countries come to the aid of one another. It's always been that way...

The question is why are you now so bent over aid to Haiti??? Cause Rush said you should?? That's the only thing that's apparent in my eyes. While we were in the midst of throwing billions in Iraq...we sent almost a billion to Indonesia for tsunami relief. I guaran-G/D-tee...I can comb your posts here and not find a single one decrying either circumstance.

Like I said, situational fucking ethics. Why don't you just admit it and stop adding unnecessary posts to the thread?

We should add to that 100 million by supporting Senegal's tentative offer to relocate Haitians there.

Maybe...but there are other nations contributing along with individuals....

 

[ChefChiTown]

The federal budget for 2009 was 3.1 trillion.
If I did my math right, 26 billion is about 8 tenths of one percent of that budget.

If you're of the opinion that foreign aid does us little or no good, then of course you're going to see even that tiny % as wasteful. But naturally there are those on the other side who think that in the big picture it's money well spent.

Yes, there are going to be people on both sides of this. I'm on one side and it seems that a lot of people are on the other side. And, that's fine. We can all feel however we want to feel about it and there's nothing wrong about that. But, $26 BILLION is still $26 BILLION, no matter what percentage of our entire federal budget that it adds up to be.

The point I'm making is this (and I'll just use a very basic example)...

According to your quote of $26 BILLION for foreign aid (not saying that it's accurate, not saying that it isn't), then we have literally given away $26 BILLION to other countries and their citizens. But, what if we kept that money for ourselves and used it help our own citizens? What if we took that $26 BILLION and used it to help provide underprivileged citizens (the poor) with proper healthcare, medicine and medical treatments? Just imagine how many lives, of our own citizens, would be saved by doing that. That's my stand.

When our own citizens are dying because they don't have the proper finances or ability to take care of themselves, then fuck everybody else.

By the way, just some food for thought...

Hurricane Katrina leveled the entire city of New Orleans and effected many, many surrounding cities as well. That was 5 years ago. New Orleans still isn't fixed. The cities that were destroyed, the buildings that were leveled, the homes that were lost, the people who were stranded with nowhere to go - those problems still haven't been fixed.

Yet, a mere DAY after the earthquake in Haiti, we had already pledged $100 MILLION of federal funds, thousands upon thousands of military personnel, food and water, extensive adoption assistance and plenty more.

http://www.usaid.gov/helphaiti/

Yet...New Orleans is still a mess. :dunno:

If Chef's position is that he's against ALL forms of foreign aid, then he is one of the very few on here (who has an issue with this Haitian aid) who at least has a consistent position. If he wants to attack the entire foreign aid budget, then that's another thing altogether. It's the people on here, who are whining about this $100 million to Haiti, when far larger sums go to other nations, that aren't making any logical sense, IMO.

Like I said before, many people have a tendency to worry about the dime, and will jump over the dollar to get to it. It's my understanding that the waste, fraud and abuse in the Medicare system amounts to something like $50 billion a year. Chef mentioned something about this $100 mil going to help Americans with their healthcare concerns. Well, how about some portion of that $50 billion???!!! Even the worst analyst should be able to find 10% of the waste, and that would be $5 billion a year. But when there was talk last year about Medicare cuts, the recent converts to (faux) fiscal conservatism in Congress (the post-Reagan "conservatives") squealed like stuck pigs and told people that Obama was trying to kill off the old people. McCain had even suggested cuts, by way of waste reduction, himself during the campaign. Some people just make it too easy to call Bullshit! on them.

I think that Chef and everybody else on here has a right to their opinions. And actually, I'm not aware that anyone has told him that he doesn't have that right. But if you post on a message board, people might challenge your ideas from time to time. What's wrong with that? :dunno:

I'm not against all forms of humanitarian aid. It's always a good-hearted idea when people try to help others who are in need. But, it's not always a good idea. I used the example before of feeding your neighbor's children before feeding your own, starving children. That's a bad idea, because you're completely fucking your own household, while easing a neighbor's pain. That's what happens when we dish out endless amounts of money to countries that can't even take care of themselves in the first place. It's a complete waste and it changes nothing about another country's situation. Haiti isn't a financially stable country, even with the near half-BILLION dollars in aid that we gave them just a few years ago. So, what is this money really going to do?

The people who died in the earthquake are dead. No amount of money is going to change that. The buildings that were destroyed in the earthquake are destroyed. No amount of money is going to change that. Can money help them rebuild those buildings? Yes, absolutely. But, new buildings aren't going to magically change their dire financial situation or make their lives any better than they were before the earthquake. So, in all reality, it's a waste of money.

And, I'm well aware that we (as a country) waste money on ourselves too. I will never ignore or deny that. There are a lot of programs in this country that are nothing more than a giant waste of time and money, and those programs need to either be fixed or completely eliminated. Welfare is taken advantage of and distributed in a horribly wasteful manner, taxes are constantly being misspent in each and every state, the rich get richer while the poor get poorer and our banking system put us into a nearly catastrophic situation. But, that's all the more reason why we need to be putting ourselves first and others second. We have our own problems to deal with, many of which can be completely devastating to our country as a whole and our citizens as individuals. No, we don't have an earthquake relief effort to tend to at the moment, but the problems we do have in this country will end up causing more damage than that if they aren't handled in a timely manner.

No they werent mega.
mega what would you like?
anybody?
#1 people around the world donate billions to haiti?
#2 the usa going there for immediate relief, helping the rescue?
# 3 the usa giving hundreds of millions or even a billion or so to haiti for help?
#4 the usa continuing to send money, people there to rebuild and reconstruct the place, which will obviously costs billions over time?
I know you and others want the first 3, but how much is enough, and when should it stop if ever?
Is haiti now the taxpayers of the USA''s responsibilty, even more so than they have been since way before the quake?

Thank you. How much is enough? :dunno: Hell, even parents have limitations with providing their own children with aid, because they know that they can't always act as their saviors. Sometimes, if you truly want to help somebody, you have to let them fix their own problems and let them figure out, ON THEIR OWN, how to survive.