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Not feasible. One, it would take years to build the necessary facilities on both sides of the Atlantic for shipping and receiving the liquefied natural gas. The Ukraine doesn't have terminals to receive LNG, they have pipelines. Two, the Dept of Energy has approved six applications for natural gas export terminals, but most of that gas is for Asia, where prices are higher and companies can make more money than selling in Europe

Piggyback story on how Ukraine must depend on the EU for energy:

Ukraine needs energy supplies from the EU: PM
Reuters

KIEV (Reuters) - Ukraine will need energy from the European Union to protect it from repercussions of its standoff with Russia, on which it depends for over half its oil and gas supplies, Prime Minister Arseny Yatseniuk said on Saturday.

Yatseniuk's comments came a day after he signed a landmark association agreement with the EU, committing Ukraine to closer political and economic cooperation with the bloc.

Speaking at a briefing in Kiev after talks with German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier, the prime minister said "we need reverse supplies of gas from the EU to ensure the energy security of Ukraine."

Their talks included the possibility that Germany help Ukraine to modernize and strengthen its armed forces.

Russia's annexation of Ukraine's Russian-majority region of Crimea has brought about the worst confrontation between Moscow and the West since the Cold War.

Steinmeier said the international community must not let the Ukraine-Russia crisis create a new division of Europe. He hoped the first OSCE monitors would arrive in Ukraine to support de-escalation efforts in the next couple of days.

He welcomed moves by Kiev's transitional government to ensure it took interests of all people in eastern Ukraine into account in their policies, referring to a speech by Yatseniuk this week stressing his wish to lead an inclusive government.

"You gave the impression that minority rights would be guaranteed and that is a good signal, which the country needs in the current circumstances," he said to Yatseniuk in their joint news conference.

Steinmeier was due to travel to the east of the country later on Saturday and meet local authorities in Donetsk.
 
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/03/vladimir-putin-energy-war-104891.html#.UzGULPJOXIU

Forget Glasnost, Mikhail Gorbachev and the arms race. What really broke the Soviet Union was the collapse of oil prices in the late 1980s. The late economist Yegor Gaidar, one of Boris Yeltsin’s prime ministers, wrote in 2007 that the empire’s fall could be traced back to Sept. 13, 1985, when Saudi Arabia, fed up with holding back supply to prop up prices, opened the spigots in a quest to recover lost market share. That day, he argued convincingly, was the beginning of the end.
The USSR, pumping almost 12 million barrels a day, was the world’s largest producer at the time. Riyadh’s change in policy caused a price shock: Oil fell from about $25 a barrel to less than $10 in the months that followed, and stayed low for the rest of the decade, costing the Soviet economy $20 billion a year in lost revenue—“money without which the country simply could not survive, ” Gaidar wrote.
Russia is the world’s biggest oil producer again now (though Saudi Arabia is the biggest exporter) but its economy still depends heavily on selling energy. Oil and gas exports account for about half of Russia’s budget and about 30 percent of its GDP. This makes it vulnerable. If the West wanted to punish President Vladimir Putin for his land grab in Crimea, runs the argument, it should target the energy revenues that keep his petro-economy afloat.

In the short term, though, the West can’t devastate Russia’s energy sector—in which Western companies such as ExxonMobil, Shell, Total, Eni, Statoil, BP and GE are all heavily invested—without damaging itself. A longer-term option could involve efforts to deflate real oil and gas prices gradually, either by reducing growth in energy consumption or boosting supply. But that has made strategic and economic sense for decades and not much has changed. It’s hard to see Russia’s annexation of Crimea being the trigger for a fundamental shift in the global energy business.
One proposal is for the United States to sell off some its Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) to cause an immediate fall in crude prices. At the last count, the SPR held 696 million barrels of oil in depots along the Gulf of Mexico. Energy expert Philip Verleger calculates that the United States could release between 500,000 to 750,000 barrels per day from it for two years without breaching international obligations to keep 90 days’ worth of equivalent oil imports in storage. Rising U.S. production has undermined the need for the SPR to hold so much oil. Sell off the excess, Verlager argues, and global oil prices would fall by $10-12 a barrel, costing Russia $40 billion in lost revenue and wiping 4 percent off its GDP.
Would the United States do it? It recently agreed to sell 5 million barrels from the SPR, ostensibly for technical reasons, though the announcement was seen as a message to the Kremlin. One analyst quoted by Platts, an oil-price reporting agency, likened the move to “cleaning the shotgun on the porch when your daughter has a date coming over.”
But a bigger SPR release is risky. The stored oil is there for emergencies. The last release, in 2011, followed the collapse of exports from Libya during its civil war, and probably prevented a price spike. Selling some SPR oil now would leave the market wondering when the United States would next wield this energy weapon, and against which oily foe. The market’s reaction is unpredictable, too. Buyers might just hoard the extra oil, thinking the SPR had lost some capacity to handle a genuine supply interruption. Or China might use a dip in prices to beef up its own strategic reserve, which holds more than 160 million barrels now but will expand to 500 million by 2020.
And, really, how much of a threat to Russia is a $12-a-barrel price drop from historically high prices above $100? The United States couldn’t carry on releasing the oil indefinitely, so the Kremlin might just take the hit, adjust fiscal spending and knuckle down until America’s ploy had run its short course and prices rose back to their market level—assuming a hurricane, Middle East war or pipeline explosion hadn’t pushed prices up again in the interim anyway.
To work, the move would also need cooperation from Saudi Arabia and other OPEC exporters, who could otherwise withhold supply from the market to balance out extra SPR barrels if they felt a fall in prices was not in their interests. Saudi Arabia, angered by the Kremlin’s backing of Bashar Assad in Syria, might welcome the chance to punish Putin. But it could just as easily balk at the economic cost: Many of the cartel’s members now depend on triple-digit oil prices to keep their fiscal budgets in the black. In any case, if Riyadh had wanted to use oil sales as an economic weapon, it could have done so at any point in the past three years, and hasn’t.
Nor is it in American interests to start driving down the crude market. Ten years of high oil prices, painful at first, have helped wean the United States away from foreign oil. Demand has slowed down, partly because of rising efficiency. Meanwhile, supply has soared. As everyone who follows global energy knows, this has slashed U.S. oil imports and should soon make it the biggest oil producer in the world.
Ask George Bush Sr. Back in September 1985, when Saudi Arabia was plotting the market-share grab that would end up decimating Soviet oil revenue, the then-vice-president was the one pleading with Saudi oil minister Sheikh Yamani not to open the valves. Flattening prices, Bush knew, would kill off the revival in U.S. oil production. (A story told in The Prize, Daniel Yergin’s epic history of the oil business.) The same threat now hangs over the unconventional oil spurting out of Texas and North Dakota. Triple-digit oil prices justify the high costs needed to blast the stuff out of low-permeability rocks. Analysts don’t agree on what the break-even price for this new marginal oil supply is—some say $65a barrel, others $100—but a falling market could wreck the tight-oil boom.
The other way to hurt the Russian petrostate is to target its gas exports. Russia shipped 167 billion cubic meters of gas to Europe last year—a third of the continent’s consumption. Almost half of this gas passed through Ukraine and previous spats between Moscow and Kiev left the EU countries, and especially some in the east that depend on Russia for all their supply, in no doubt about their vulnerability.
But the frenzied call in Washington, D.C., to ship American shale-gas in the form of liquefied natural gas (LNG) to Europe, and even as far as Ukraine, doesn’t make much sense (not least because Ukraine doesn’t have an LNG receiving terminal). Even when the United States becomes a net exporter of natural gas (it’s still a net importer, despite the hoopla), it’s important to remember that the U.S. federal government doesn’t sell gas—companies do. American vendors will send their LNG to the customers who pay most for it. They live in Asia, not Europe. Thanks to the nuclear shutdown in Japan, the world’s biggest LNG importer, and roaring demand from China, Europe’s imports of LNG have fallen steadily in the past three years, while Asia’s have soared.
This can change, but only if Europe’s consumers are willing to pay more for energy. Goldman Sachs thinks LNG to replace some Russian gas in the event of a shutdown of some supplies would be 35-40 percent more expensive. But Brussels has fretted over energy security for years, with little to show for it aside from moves that ultimately tightened Russia’s grip on the EU. Grand plans to diversify Europe’s supplies, conceived by some as finding alternatives to Gazprom’s gas, morphed into bypassing Ukraine, which was seen as the real basket case hindering European energy security. To that end, the Russian firm built the Nord Stream pipeline across the Baltic Sea to Germany and hopes to have another, South Stream, which would send gas through the Black Sea into southeastern Europe, on line by 2016.
Europe tried to line up alternatives to South Stream. But Moscow is better than Brussels at energy geopolitics. One by one, it picked off the countries that would have been crucial to the EU-backed Nabucco pipeline, offering them long-term supplies of energy while Nabucco’s developers hunted fruitlessly for alternative gas sources in Central Asia. The EU’s efforts to get access to Middle Eastern supplies for Nabucco were paltry. The project, which would have gathered gas in Turkey before snaking through the Balkans to Austria,failed.
Meanwhile, Gazprom has been keen to diversify its options, too. When Putin visits Beijing in May, he will probably sign a new gas-supply deal with China, opening that enormous market to Gazprom. The latest friction between the Kremlin and Brussels plays nicely into Beijing’s hands. But it also convinces Russia that its energy future lies not in Europe’s stagnant market but in Asia’s growing one. Japan, South Korea and China will all take more LNG from Russia in the coming years, too.
If the West really wants to use energy to beat Russia, there are some options—
but they won’t hurt the Kremlin now or do anything to change the dynamic in Ukraine, and some of them involve more cooperation with Russia, not less. A genuinely liberalized market, for example, would let Gazprom keep exporting to the EU, but force it to open its pipelines—especially South Stream—to other suppliers. Building better interconnecting pipelines within the EU would let eastern countries access supplies reaching elsewhere in the continent, forcing Gazprom to compete with LNG, Norwegian or even North Sea gas landing in Western Europe.Opposing shale gas and nuclear power in the EU, meanwhile, is useful idiocy on the Kremlin’s behalf. Brussels needs to be clear about that, but realistic about how long it will take to deliver supply from either.
The other solution lies in the Middle East. If driving down energy prices is the West’s long-term strategy for breaking Putin, then the region is key. Iran, holder of the world’s second-largest gas reserves, is a natural competitor to Russia in Europe and could once again be a major oil producer. Sanctions hold it back. The return of Libya’s oil, disproportionately important to global markets because of its high quality, would also help. Sorting out Iran and Libya would add about 2 million barrels per day to the world’s oil supply capacity and defuse some of the risk premium on oil prices. Rising output from Iraq will also loosen the market.
The problem is that Putin knows all this, too. Perhaps better than we do. And the West needs his cooperation to bring some stability to the region. That’s why, if it comes to an energy war with the West, the world’s biggest oil producer will happily watch the Iran talks fail, the Middle East burn and Russia’s crude keep flowing to the world’s needy oil consumers. And Vladimir Putin will be laughing all the way to the bank.
 
This a great article on how decreased energy revenue played a part in dissolving of the USSR. The USSR weapons enormous spending on weapons also played a huge role. The U. S. want use any of sanctions methods in the article. Putin could become a menace to the West, if those extreme sanctions were implemented.
 
This a great article on how decreased energy revenue played a part in dissolving of the USSR. The USSR weapons enormous spending on weapons also played a huge role. The U. S. want use any of sanctions methods in the article. Putin could become a menace to the West, if those extreme sanctions were implemented.

I don't think Germany would go along with having their energy supplies cut.

Best sanctions for now is on the financial side, forcing the Russian central bank to take more reserves out to lend aid to their banks.
 
Ukraine to face its 'graft culture' under aid plan
Associated Press By DAVID McHUGH


KIEV, Ukraine (AP) — A hairstyling business closes four salons rather than deal with crooked officials. An independent salesman hustling paint from the trunk of his car faces a $5 million tax penalty. A humble crafts stall gives up after taxes increase ten-fold overnight.

That's the world of small business in Ukraine — a tangled thicket of bribe-hungry government inspectors and complicated, unpredictable regulations.

Reducing graft and red tape are set to be part of the conditions Ukraine will face in exchange for an international financial rescue package. Officials in Kiev are expected to wrap up talks with the International Monetary Fund as soon as Tuesday.

Yet it will take some doing. Ukraine's culture of corruption and bureaucracy is deeply entrenched.

Take the story of Aleksey Antonyuk, who runs a hairstyling, marketing and publishing company in Kiev.

He was part of the first wave of Ukrainian entrepreneurs in the waning days of the Soviet Union, setting up a hair salon with one stylist. He expanded that to a company that employed 200 people at its peak. He branched out into media, publishing a stack of glossy magazine on hair and makeup, and offered marketing services, training courses and hairstyling competitions.

The trouble began when his business grew large enough to register as a limited liability corporation. That means he needed to install cash registers — and with those came government inspectors eager to find evidence of rule-breaking.

"It's like honey for flies," said Antonyuk, a tall, slim 48-year-old, in an interview at his offices in a nondescript Soviet-era building away from the bustle of Kiev's city center.

"I was competing with the black market," he said. "And you can't compete against the black market. I lost."

Antonyuk shut down four salons, keeping just two, and went back to the simpler form of business registration, as a sole proprietor.

"If I lived in another country, I'd have 100 salons, and I'd have sold them, and I'd being doing something else."

The hope of a better-governed country was one of the motivations for those who fought to get Ukraine closer to the European Union. Their protest movement helped drive out pro-Russian President Viktor Yanukovych, triggering a conflict with Moscow that resulted in the annexation of Ukraine's Crimea region.

Antonyuk was part of the pro-EU protest encampment on Independence Square in Kiev and spent a cold night on the square Dec. 10 when there were fears it would be cleared violently by police. His phone is full of video of the protests. Though the demonstrations closed his downtown business for days, he says it was worth the trouble: "If there's no change, there won't be any business."

On a country-wide scale, corruption and bureaucracy are keeping people poor. As companies fail to grow or shut down, the government — which is almost broke — misses out on valuable tax revenue. And good jobs are lost that could raise the per-capital income of just $7,400 per year, even adjusted for the lower cost of living.

The World Bank cites "pervasive" corruption and the burdens on small business as primary reasons why Ukraine has seriously lagged its neighbors economically since it gained independence at the breakup of the Soviet Union in 1991. The country of 46 million is poorer on a per-capita basis than other former parts of the Soviet Union such as the Baltic states of Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia — now EU members — and it even lags Russia and Belarus.

Making business laws simpler to navigate and more transparent is likely to be among the IMF's goals. Sudden changes to laws and taxes can make companies unviable overnight.

Dmitry Zimin, in the northeastern Ukrainian town of Sumy, had to close down his stand selling embroidery supplies at the central market when the tax code was amended in 2010. His social contributions rose 10-fold, eliminating his profits.

He's currently making do with odd jobs while he tries to build up a new business, a network of farms and homestays that offer ecotourism holidays. But even there, growth is hindered by uncertainty. The members of his ecotourism network are struggling to get financing — banks concerned about the unpredictable nature of doing business in Ukraine demand annual interest rates of 30 percent or more on loans.

Another key issue the IMF is likely to look into is Ukraine's outdated system of tax inspections, which involves lots of face-to-face contact between bureaucrats and businesses — an open invitation to extorting bribes. Modernizing the system, so that businesses can do more of their paperwork over the Internet, for example, could help.

A more difficult aspect to change, some say, is a historical mistrust of entrepreneurs that has carried over from Soviet times, when businesspeople were denounced as speculators and prosecutors reigned supreme.

"For us, the prosecutor is tsar and god," said Vladimir Solodkov, a former small business owner in the town of Armyansk.

Local officials in general remain a class by themselves who can't be called to account for their behavior, he said. Police, prosecutors and tax officials hang out together and the system protects its own.

Solodkov used to sell paint wholesale, taking supplies on consignment from a factory — until the local tax inspector decided he had violated tax rules. Solodkov was given an option — pay a bribe of 400,000 hryvnia ($40,000) or a fine of 27 million hryvnia (a bit more than $5 million).

The inspector, he says, had been too greedy: "If it had been 40,000 hryvnia ($4,000) it would have been different."

He challenged the fine in the courts. The case is still pending after four years.

What will happen to the case is unclear. Armyansk is in Crimea, just four kilometers (2 ½ miles) inside what Russia now claims is its territory. The civil part of Solodkov's case is in Ukraine; a related criminal investigation, in Crimea.

In any case, he has forgotten about opening a business again.

"The second I open something, they'll land on me," he said.

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Ukraine to face its 'graft culture' under aid plan
Associated Press By DAVID McHUGH


KIEV, Ukraine (AP) — A hairstyling business closes four salons rather than deal with crooked officials. An independent salesman hustling paint from the trunk of his car faces a $5 million tax penalty. A humble crafts stall gives up after taxes increase ten-fold overnight.

That's the world of small business in Ukraine — a tangled thicket of bribe-hungry government inspectors and complicated, unpredictable regulations.

Reducing graft and red tape are set to be part of the conditions Ukraine will face in exchange for an international financial rescue package. Officials in Kiev are expected to wrap up talks with the International Monetary Fund as soon as Tuesday.

Yet it will take some doing. Ukraine's culture of corruption and bureaucracy is deeply entrenched.

Take the story of Aleksey Antonyuk, who runs a hairstyling, marketing and publishing company in Kiev.

He was part of the first wave of Ukrainian entrepreneurs in the waning days of the Soviet Union, setting up a hair salon with one stylist. He expanded that to a company that employed 200 people at its peak. He branched out into media, publishing a stack of glossy magazine on hair and makeup, and offered marketing services, training courses and hairstyling competitions.

The trouble began when his business grew large enough to register as a limited liability corporation. That means he needed to install cash registers — and with those came government inspectors eager to find evidence of rule-breaking.

"It's like honey for flies," said Antonyuk, a tall, slim 48-year-old, in an interview at his offices in a nondescript Soviet-era building away from the bustle of Kiev's city center.

"I was competing with the black market," he said. "And you can't compete against the black market. I lost."

Antonyuk shut down four salons, keeping just two, and went back to the simpler form of business registration, as a sole proprietor.

"If I lived in another country, I'd have 100 salons, and I'd have sold them, and I'd being doing something else."

The hope of a better-governed country was one of the motivations for those who fought to get Ukraine closer to the European Union. Their protest movement helped drive out pro-Russian President Viktor Yanukovych, triggering a conflict with Moscow that resulted in the annexation of Ukraine's Crimea region.

Antonyuk was part of the pro-EU protest encampment on Independence Square in Kiev and spent a cold night on the square Dec. 10 when there were fears it would be cleared violently by police. His phone is full of video of the protests. Though the demonstrations closed his downtown business for days, he says it was worth the trouble: "If there's no change, there won't be any business."

On a country-wide scale, corruption and bureaucracy are keeping people poor. As companies fail to grow or shut down, the government — which is almost broke — misses out on valuable tax revenue. And good jobs are lost that could raise the per-capital income of just $7,400 per year, even adjusted for the lower cost of living.

The World Bank cites "pervasive" corruption and the burdens on small business as primary reasons why Ukraine has seriously lagged its neighbors economically since it gained independence at the breakup of the Soviet Union in 1991. The country of 46 million is poorer on a per-capita basis than other former parts of the Soviet Union such as the Baltic states of Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia — now EU members — and it even lags Russia and Belarus.

Making business laws simpler to navigate and more transparent is likely to be among the IMF's goals. Sudden changes to laws and taxes can make companies unviable overnight.

Dmitry Zimin, in the northeastern Ukrainian town of Sumy, had to close down his stand selling embroidery supplies at the central market when the tax code was amended in 2010. His social contributions rose 10-fold, eliminating his profits.

He's currently making do with odd jobs while he tries to build up a new business, a network of farms and homestays that offer ecotourism holidays. But even there, growth is hindered by uncertainty. The members of his ecotourism network are struggling to get financing — banks concerned about the unpredictable nature of doing business in Ukraine demand annual interest rates of 30 percent or more on loans.

Another key issue the IMF is likely to look into is Ukraine's outdated system of tax inspections, which involves lots of face-to-face contact between bureaucrats and businesses — an open invitation to extorting bribes. Modernizing the system, so that businesses can do more of their paperwork over the Internet, for example, could help.

A more difficult aspect to change, some say, is a historical mistrust of entrepreneurs that has carried over from Soviet times, when businesspeople were denounced as speculators and prosecutors reigned supreme.

"For us, the prosecutor is tsar and god," said Vladimir Solodkov, a former small business owner in the town of Armyansk.

Local officials in general remain a class by themselves who can't be called to account for their behavior, he said. Police, prosecutors and tax officials hang out together and the system protects its own.

Solodkov used to sell paint wholesale, taking supplies on consignment from a factory — until the local tax inspector decided he had violated tax rules. Solodkov was given an option — pay a bribe of 400,000 hryvnia ($40,000) or a fine of 27 million hryvnia (a bit more than $5 million).

The inspector, he says, had been too greedy: "If it had been 40,000 hryvnia ($4,000) it would have been different."

He challenged the fine in the courts. The case is still pending after four years.

What will happen to the case is unclear. Armyansk is in Crimea, just four kilometers (2 ½ miles) inside what Russia now claims is its territory. The civil part of Solodkov's case is in Ukraine; a related criminal investigation, in Crimea.

In any case, he has forgotten about opening a business again.

"The second I open something, they'll land on me," he said.
 
I don't think Germany would go along with having their energy supplies cut.

Best sanctions for now is on the financial side, forcing the Russian central bank to take more reserves out to lend aid to their banks.

I just posting a piece on possible sanctions methods. The West better be careful to not make Russia an enemy. The Russians have many cards they can play when dealing with the West.
 
I just posting a piece on possible sanctions methods. The West better be careful to not make Russia a enemy. Russia has a ton cards it could play with when dealing with the West.

Plus they could divert their energy resources to China, who soon will use more energy than the United States.
 
Yes, China will be Russia's biggest energy customer in the coming decades. India has very good relationship with Russia, so I think India will be Russia's second biggest customer in the coming decades. is India's top supplier of weapons. Israel and the U. S. have gotten big weapons purchases from India, but they pale in comparison to Russia's weapons deals. India's weapons buildup is on the level of China's; the U. S. media and Congress only like to talk about China's military buildup.
 
http://thediplomat.com/2014/03/indian-foreign-policy-the-cold-war-lingers/

In the wake of Vladimir Putin’s incursion into Crimea, almost every member of the international community voiced concern over Russia’s actions. While the U.S. and European Union were the most forceful in their criticism, non-Western states such as China and even Iran also made clear their support for the principles of non-intervention, state sovereignty and territorial integrity – oblique criticisms of Moscow’s disregard for cornerstone Westphalian norms. For the most part, support for Russia has been confined to the predictable incendiaries: Cuba, Venezuela and Syria, for example. Yet there is one unusual suspect among those lining up behind Putin that requires further investigation: India.

On its face, New Delhi’s enunciation of respect for Russia’s “legitimate interests” in Crimea is a surprising blow to the prevailing U.S. policy of reaching out to India. As the largest democracy in the world, a burgeoning capitalist economy and an increasingly important military power, India has been viewed as a counterweight to China’s rise and an anchor of the U.S.-led international order. India’s support for Russia’s revisionism in Crimea, then, is something that should trouble U.S. policymakers. In the long run, India’s response to the Crimean crisis might even be remembered as one of the more important implications of the whole episode. For how India aligns in the coming multipolar world will have enormous ramifications.

India’s support for Putin is a reminder that the West should not take India’s friendship for granted. To be sure, India made a necessary shift in tone towards the West following the collapse of the Soviet Union. India has liberalized its economy and become a strategic partner in several key areas. But the past two decades of broad cooperation should not be taken as an inexorable trend towards a complete harmonization of interests between India and the West. Amid all the talk of a renewed Cold War in Europe it has been forgotten that, for India, Cold War international relations never truly ended. In particular, the Indo-Russian relationship remains an important mainstay of Indian grand strategy – a hangover from that bygone era.

The years following the collapse of the Soviet empire saw the U.S. mainly concerned with a failed attempt to curb India’s nuclear program. After 9/11, America’s attention was focused on partnership with India while still maintaining the confidence and cooperation of Pakistan. Both periods of engagement, however, left the Indo-U.S. relationship well short of the kind of deep cooperation that marked Indo-Soviet relations during the Cold War. The result has been that Moscow still enjoys a thoroughly positive relationship with New Delhi.

India and Russia maintain deep cooperation on political, military and economic dimensions. Russian trade with India rivals the latter’s trade with the United States, and Indian companies have made huge investments in Russian energy firms and energy projects in the Bay of Bengal. In addition, the two nations are developing a southern route from Russia to the Arabian Sea that will increase Russian trade in the whole of the Indian Ocean region.

Russia still provides India’s military with more than 70 percent of its weapons systems and armaments and the two are currently cooperating in the development of cruise missile systems, strike fighters and transport aircraft. Russia is one of only two countries in the world that have annual ministerial-level defense reviews with India. The two cooperate on the advancement of a space program and they have bilateral nuclear agreement worth potentially tens of billions of dollars. Such deep and expansive ties with Russia complicate India’s multifarious importance from the perspective of Washington (as a cog in the U.S. “pivot” to Asia, an indispensable ally in the War on Terror and a bustling hub of the global economy).

After the Bush administration left office, India was heralded as one of the foreign policy success stories of his presidency. Economic relations had been deepened, diplomatic ties strengthened, a nuclear agreement signed. All indications were that India would be a stalwart American ally at a strategic nexus between the Middle East and the new focus on Asia. Historically poor relations with China would keep India safely out of the Chinese orbit. India could be relied upon to help encircle China, a vital link in a twenty-first century cordon sanitaire around the muscular Middle Kingdom.

But India never lost sight of its historic Cold War ally and the Indian people have never fully lost their suspicion of Western powers and creeping colonialism. American policymakers may have been overly naïve in thinking that economic growth, increased trade and a nuclear deal could move India safely into the American camp. Perhaps it is true that India will never cement itself on China’s side, but the fact is that nothing has been done to erase the deep Indo-Russian ties that formed during decades of Cold War.

Putin’s stratagem in Crimea has reminded the world that China is not the only rising or resurgent Great Power deserving of attention. As such, officials need to reconsider India’s place in American grand strategy. There is no doubt that India (itself a rising state with the potential to become a geopolitical pole in its own right) will remain a prominent player in the decades ahead. India occupies a crucial geostrategic location between a rising China, the energy producing regions of the Middle East and a newly vigorous African economy. An expanding Indian navy featuring 150 ships and multiple aircraft carriers will possess the capability to exercise veto power over key shipping choke points in the Persian Gulf, Strait of Malacca, and Suez region. Economic forecasts suggest India will surpass the GDP of the United States somewhere in the middle of the century.

It should greatly concern the American foreign policy establishment that, at a moment when international norms are under assault by Moscow, India has chosen to (at least partially) throw its lot in with Russia. How strong can a norm of territorial integrity be without the world’s largest nation and the world’s largest democracy? How stable can the American-led global order be with such a prominent repudiation of American foreign policy preferences? The answer to both of these questions is, unfortunately, “not very.”

What should be done? The past decade has seen a consistent focus by Washington to integrate and contain a rising China, but not enough has been done to integrate and build ties with a rising India. Simply because India is a democracy does not mean that it will automatically align itself to American preferences, and the United States must make a concerted effort to win India’s favor and goodwill in a lasting way. Until now, closeness with India has been compromised by competing demands to remain faithful to Pakistan, America’s own Cold War-era ally. Indeed, Russia’s historic support for Indian claims over Kashmir (sometimes explicit, sometimes implicit) has been no small part of Moscow’s appeal to New Delhi. Sooner or later, a new balance must be struck between U.S. commitments to these two nations. While Pakistan is integral to regional security, India’s cooperation will be essential to sustain the American vision of global governance.

The Obama administration can lay the groundwork for a more intimate relationship with India by doing three things. First, and easiest, the United States must clear up the detention and mistreatment of
http://thediplomat.com/2014/03/indian-foreign-policy-the-cold-war-lingers/

Devyani Khobragade. Far greater crimes have been excused for much less than would be gained in terms of Indian public opinion if the U.S. were to show flexibility towards Khobragade. Whether charges truly are warranted or not, Washington must at least apologize for her treatment in order to mitigate the blow that has been dealt to Indian impressions of the United States.

Second, the U.S. needs to commit itself to the establishment of a free trade agreement with India. India presents an enormous opportunity for American investment, with its stable system of property rights, consolidated democracy, and English-speaking population. An agreement will benefit both the Indian and American peoples, and intertwine the two nations to the high degree that their statures in the global economy mandate.

Third, the United States should seriously reconsider its support for a permanent Indian seat on the United Nations Security Council. If time is running out on the post-WWII international order, it makes sense for the U.S. to exploit its waning preponderant influence and play a major role in fashioning the future of the multipolar order. By seizing the agenda and winning the friendship and trust of rising countries (especially India and Brazil) that generally abide by an American-friendly set of global rules, the United States can promote the existence of a favorable global environment of peace and prosperity for generations to come.

Washington has been warned: India’s expression of sympathy for Russian interests in Crimea should serve as an alarm bell for American officials that a crucial player in world affairs has gone neglected. India’s enlistment as a card-carrying supporter of the existing international order simply cannot be counted upon going forward. If the U.S. wants India to serve as a bulwark of the international status quo, some form of policy change will be required. By shifting India to the front and center of American foreign policy, the United States can help to assure for itself – and the wider world – a future based on prevailing global norms rather than the designs of revisionist, illiberal and undemocratic states like Russia.
 
Yes, China will be Russia's biggest energy customer in the coming decades. India has very good relationship with Russia, so I think India will be Russia's second biggest customer in the coming decades. is India's top supplier of weapons. Israel and the U. S. have gotten big weapons purchases from India, but they pale in comparison to Russia's weapons deals. India's weapons buildup is on the level of China's; the U. S. media and Congress only like to talk about China's military buildup.

Also the French sells a ton a weapons to the Russians.
 
Also the French sells a ton a weapons to the Russians.


The Russians use to buy French sensor pods for their aircraft and sights for their tanks. The Russians pumped money into those areas, and purchases of those items have vastly decreased.Russia has purchased two French LHDs, of the Mistral Class. I think the Russians want to acquire French shipbuilding methods. Some of the Russian shipyards are taking forever to build surface warships. Much of the Soviet Union's shipbuilding capability was in the Ukraine. The U. S. is ahead Russia in stealth and laser weapons technology. I'm not confident about any other areas of weapons technology between Russia and the U. S.
 

Philbert

Banned
The Russians use to buy French sensor pods for their aircraft and sights for their tanks. The Russians pumped money into those areas, and purchases of those items have vastly decreased.Russia has purchased two French LHDs, of the Mistral Class. I think the Russians want to acquire French shipbuilding methods. Some of the Russian shipyards are taking forever to build surface warships. Much of the Soviet Union's shipbuilding capability was in the Ukraine. The U. S. is ahead Russia in stealth and laser weapons technology. I'm not confident about any other areas of weapons technology between Russia and the U. S.

Also the French sells a ton a weapons to the Russians.


I guess not, huh ?:facepalm:
Wrong again...stick to cut n paste, at least those guys know something.

Maybe have lickingdick show you how to paste a link instead of entire boring articles you don't understand anyway.

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Yes, China will be Russia's biggest energy customer in the coming decades. India has very good relationship with Russia, so I think India will be Russia's second biggest customer in the coming decades. is India's top supplier of weapons. Israel and the U. S. have gotten big weapons purchases from India, but they pale in comparison to Russia's weapons deals. India's weapons buildup is on the level of China's; the U. S. media and Congress only like to talk about China's military buildup.

Good points you make spacearrow, I hadn't thought of it like that
 
He's in violation of international agreements (both Hitler and Stalin did the same). Reread the article that I cited previously. Russia has violated the terms of the Budapest Memorandum. The whole annexation, historically justified or not, is therefore illegal....at least in theory. In practice, it was an easy yet defiant expansion of Russia's borders. The USA is treaty-bound to protect the interests of other NATO members (basically, NATO's terms mean that an attack against any member of NATO constitutes an attack on the United States). All this saber-rattling is just that. There's really not anything of substance that the USA can do....yet.
You are right but NATO did broke all agreements since 1991 till today that they have made with Russia, so why is Russia obliged to respect Budapest memo. Whats older egg or chicken? Unfortunately int. law doesn't exist long time before this crisis.
 

Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
You are right but NATO did broke all agreements since 1991 till today that they have made with Russia, so why is Russia obliged to respect Budapest memo. Whats older egg or chicken? Unfortunately int. law doesn't exist long time before this crisis.

Oh I don't disagree with you at all. I was simply answering the question.

I think the bigger point to be made is the realization that the term "international law" is a mythical one to a large degree....especially as it applies to geopolitical or military agreements. Even in other areas (like human rights, tenets of the Geneva Convention, etc) there is little evidence that would support the imposition of international law. The examples are rampant throughout recent as well as distant history, perhaps the most glaring one being the relative figurehead status and ongoing impotency of the United Nations.

At the end of many modern (and not so modern) conflicts, the victors often enjoy the spoils by putting the losing leadership on trial for "war crimes" (there's a fucking oxymoron for you!) under the pretext of imposing the standards of "international law". More often than not, it is simply a convenient rationalization for the elimination of those around whom opposition elements might find a rally point. There are more examples of this throughout history than can be counted.

I believe that, as long as Putin remains relatively unconcerned about his relationship with the West, in particular the United States, he will be free to do pretty much as he pleases as it applies to annexation of many of the former Soviet republics. I don't believe that he will be bold enough (or reckless might be a better word) to violate the sovereignty of any of the NATO members since, in my opinion, a military retaliatory response by the USA and its allies would be inevitable. As it applies to Russian expansion, he has to weigh risk versus benefit at some point and I think (hope?) it ends sooner than later. Hard to tell with Putin. He's a good poker player. Scary situation, very reminiscent of the 1960s.

Here's a very insightful article on the present situation that was written in mid-February, definitely worthy of a quick read:

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/02/16/russia-under-attack/
 
Oh I don't disagree with you at all. I was simply answering the question.

I think the bigger point to be made is the realization that the term "international law" is a mythical one to a large degree....especially as it applies to geopolitical or military agreements. Even in other areas (like human rights, tenets of the Geneva Convention, etc) there is little evidence that would support the imposition of international law. The examples are rampant throughout recent as well as distant history, perhaps the most glaring one being the relative figurehead status and ongoing impotency of the United Nations.

At the end of many modern (and not so modern) conflicts, the victors often enjoy the spoils by putting the losing leadership on trial for "war crimes" (there's a fucking oxymoron for you!) under the pretext of imposing the standards of "international law". More often than not, it is simply a convenient rationalization for the elimination of those around whom opposition elements might find a rally point. There are more examples of this throughout history than can be counted.

I believe that, as long as Putin remains relatively unconcerned about his relationship with the West, in particular the United States, he will be free to do pretty much as he pleases as it applies to annexation of many of the former Soviet republics. I don't believe that he will be bold enough (or reckless might be a better word) to violate the sovereignty of any of the NATO members since, in my opinion, a military retaliatory response by the USA and its allies would be inevitable. As it applies to Russian expansion, he has to weigh risk versus benefit at some point and I think (hope?) it ends sooner than later. Hard to tell with Putin. He's a good poker player. Scary situation, very reminiscent of the 1960s.

Here's a very insightful article on the present situation that was written in mid-February, definitely worthy of a quick read:

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/02/16/russia-under-attack/

Forget about Belarus as Alexander Lukashenko is like Putin. Only leader since 1994 changing elections dates, eliminating term limits and cheating in the elections that were held. Right now there is small opposition to him developing in Minsk, but not the scale of the one in Kiev that ousted Viktor Yanukovych .

If Lukashenko seems threatened, then Putin will move troops into Belarus.

But I agree that every where else will be fair game that are not part of NATO.
 
Belarus: Opposition fears after Crimea annexation
26/03 15:39 CET

Could Belarus be next?

That is the fear of some of the hundreds of people marching through Minsk in an annual opposition rally, overshadowed by Russia’s annexation of Crimea.

Belarus borders Russia, Ukraine and NATO members Poland, Lithuania and Latvia.

On what is traditionally known as Freedom Day, many hailed Ukraine’s revolution.

“I think it is very important for us Belarussians to realise that we have a long, long way to go to achieve what the Ukrainians did,” said protester Svetlana Radkevich. “It is like an example – the fight for their independence, for a better future for their children,”

Belarussian President Alexander Lukashenko has said Ukraine’s territorial integrity should be respected but added that Crimea is now ‘de facto’ a part of Russia.

Criticised by the West for his harsh policies towards the opposition at home, he relies heavily on Moscow for economic and military support.
 

Philbert

Banned
Belarus: Opposition fears after Crimea annexation
26/03 15:39 CET

Could Belarus be next?

That is the fear of some of the hundreds of people marching through Minsk in an annual opposition rally, overshadowed by Russia’s annexation of Crimea.

Belarus borders Russia, Ukraine and NATO members Poland, Lithuania and Latvia.

On what is traditionally known as Freedom Day, many hailed Ukraine’s revolution.

“I think it is very important for us Belarussians to realise that we have a long, long way to go to achieve what the Ukrainians did,” said protester Svetlana Radkevich. “It is like an example – the fight for their independence, for a better future for their children,”

Belarussian President Alexander Lukashenko has said Ukraine’s territorial integrity should be respected but added that Crimea is now ‘de facto’ a part of Russia.

Criticised by the West for his harsh policies towards the opposition at home, he relies heavily on Moscow for economic and military support.
Even less important than Crimea...
 

Philbert

Banned
Good...As nasty as Turks are, Syria ia a serious pain in the ass to all of humanity.
More Islamic despots and shit regimes should develop a fatal Regime Change condition...no cure available.
 
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