The War on Drugs

[Mariahxxx]

fucking dbl post what is wrong with the script on this board? it sucks lately

 

[Mariahxxx]

well I mention it because it has happened. parents take the kids to the hospital because they are groggy and hard to wake up from sleep. each child so far has been released without any damage done. not one kid has died or had any permanent affect .

Now, if a toddler had done a shot of whiskey, it could have very easily killed it. that's a fact.

 

[ApolloBalboa]

dude I didn't say how they feel. I said which one will need emergency medical attention and which one won't

No, you said:

What would be more harmful to a toddler? a shot of booze or a bong hit? Take the bad parenting out of it, and tell me which one is more harmful.

Again, giving a toddler either substance will probably result in the need for medical attention. Unless some kind of depraved study is conducted where parents consent to having their children be given alcohol and weed, you're grasping at straws purely and simply. Any answer Blue could give could be correct or incorrect, any answer you give could be correct or incorrect, but that doesn't mean that the question you've posed isn't asinine in every sense of the word.

 

[Jack Davenport]

dude I didn't say how they feel. I said which one will need emergency medical attention and which one won't

Oh I'm sorry, you don't like people to assume things about you??? I know how ya feel.

I can't smoke weed. I do it every once in a while as I said, a few times a year and sometimes I'm fine but most I'm paranoid and hate it. It is common with Sicilian people for some reason. We over think everything.

And again, you cannot believe that alcohol is legal because it was researched and found to be ok. it is legal because of demand back in the 1920s and 30s when the religious lunatics got the white house to make it illegal. Evangelists to be specific.

Weed is the #1 cash crop in California. More than grapes more than oranges more than anything. You don't think there have been studies?

You do realize that people have been getting medicinal weed from the government since the 1980s right? This is nothing new. There has been infinite research done on weed but once again, there is a HUGE lobby against it because of money. Can the average Joe make Bourbon or vodka or tequila? no. they need a company to make it and then the governement regulates and taxes it. But weed we can all pretty much grow ourselves cutting the companies and the government out of it.

And I challenge you to find an illegal weed dealer in LA or Washington state. they are very rare these days. Why would you risk buying it illegaly when you can go buy the best shit there is legally? it took the street dealer out of the equation. if we did that with all drugs there wouldn't be the gang dealers georges loves to cite so much. they would be replaced by taxable quality controlled state run dispensaries.

And BC with your argument you are really showing your age here.

I'll be 48 in February. I still do the same things as I did when I was 20. I go skiing in the winter and surf every weekend. I also have the occasional visit from the sheriff's department when me and my buddies are jamming loudly and playing loud drums and guitars and amplifiers in my garage and the neighbors complain.

My argument is not against legalization. I don't have a problem with people using it if they want to. I am against using it myself because I know how it affected me after a while.

You have painted weed as something that is so harmless that it can be given to a child or animal. Knowing how it affected me, I am willing to bet that it is not as harmless as you say it is.

 

[saschaxx]

Alcohol is legal because the society accept´s it and the state can make a lot of money with it .
Weed is illegal because big part´s of the society will NOT accept it and the state don´t make a dime with it. ( Officially ) .
If there would be acceptance allover with weed, no problem for *father state* ...and 5 min. later we had a weed - tax .

I bet my bones the same thing would happen with snow , with heroine I´m not sure about .
I`m talking about Germany, but I don´t think it will be very different in the US or UK ..

Bloody bastards of politicians ....

 

[bigwarmload]

Since when is it necessary to suggest giving babies and toddlers drugs and alcohol for research purposes or prove a point on a forum?

You think Compton is a ghetto but it's not. There are a lot of middle class families living in Compton. there are gangs for sure, but only a portion of it.

Ice Cube is gonna be pissed you dissed his hood like that.

 

[Mr. Daystar]

I smoked pot from the age 17 until I was 21. I smoked it about 2 times a week. I had some good buzzes that were a blast. I also had some experiences that caused paranoia and made my heart race and felt like my skull caught on fire. Sounds were amplified and it made me feel like I was going to die and yes hallucinate . Alcohol never made me feel like that. Those experiences happened after using it for a couple of years. The more I used it the worse the experiences became.

It is NOT a harmless drug.

But yet you turned out to be an attorney. A productive member of society, and what appears to be of an above average level of IQ.

I smoked A LOT of weed in school, and for a few years after graduation...I quit because of drug testing...an easier task then giving up cigarettes. Easier then quitting alcohol. I've done a lot of other drugs that were a lot worse too...pot never effected me like they did. It's a proven fact, that the human body contains MORE cannabis receptors, then any other animal on earth, and when activated, by cannabis, they help the body begin to heal. I'm not saying a bag of weed a day, burn out, but a joint a day, after work, does far less harm then a 12 pack.

More importantly, who, and or what in the fuck gives our government the right, to regulate a fucking plant?!?!?

 

[Elwood70]

More importantly, who, and or what in the fuck gives our government the right, to regulate a fucking plant?!?!?

...like tobacco?
Legalize all of it, and let nature do its' work.

Or at the very least, legalize marijuana , partially because I think it's a great idea, and partially because I'm sick and fucking tired of hearing about it. Also, like Blue said, it'll help a lot with research, and hopefully put to rest the whole "I drive better high hurr durr.." bullshit. Here's a tidbit: Anything that alters your perception of reality is going to affect everything you do while your perception is altered....including driving.

 

[Jack Davenport]

I actually wanted to join the Marine Corps and fly jets but my vision isn't up to military standards. Then when I realized that wouldn't happen I became a bit of a stoner my last two years of high school to fit in and grew the hair long and became a metal head.

I don't care if weed is legalized but I draw the line with cocaine and heroin, morphine etc.

I believe the government has a right to regulate any plant that could be used to produce a drug that can be harmful. Hell, we were even subsidizing Afghani farmers to destroy and not grow poppy plants.

From my personal experience, weed is not the innocuous drug that it is painted to be although some people seem to be able to use it occasionally and function just fine.

 

[Mariahxxx]

mr small government and de-regulation is for regulation on something? hmmmmmm

weed is proven to be FAR LESS HARMFUL than alcohol. fact. read ANY study done by any independent group.

where do you surf every weekend in North Carolina???????? shore break isnt surfing

 

[Shifty]

I prefer booze. :2 cents:

 

[Mayhem]

I actually wanted to join the Marine Corps and fly jets but my vision isn't up to military standards. Then when I realized that wouldn't happen I became a bit of a stoner my last two years of high school to fit in and grew the hair long and became a metal head.

I don't care if weed is legalized but I draw the line with cocaine and heroin, morphine etc.

I believe the government has a right to regulate any plant that could be used to produce a drug that can be harmful. Hell, we were even subsidizing Afghani farmers to destroy and not grow poppy plants.

From my personal experience, weed is not the innocuous drug that it is painted to be although some people seem to be able to use it occasionally and function just fine.

My sister spent many years working one of those office jobs that grinds a person down (long hours, lots of stress, etc.). She openly spoke of her one-pill-a-day Prozac prescription. I openly spoke to her about one joint/bowl per day after work and see how she feels in a month. But she is such an establishment follower that she never let it be an option. A few years ago she was medically ordered to quit (just in time for the financial meltdown).

For the last few decades, more and more of this type of job has been the norm. And Big Pharma knows that pot legalization is one of the best things for people in these situations. It's just not the best thing for Big Pharma, it's the worst thing for their balance sheet.

 

[Mariahxxx]

yes because people can grow it themselves and cut them right out of the loop.

 

[Jack Davenport]

They can grow bell peppers and silver queen corn too and Big Grocery is still in business.

 

[Mayhem]

They can grow bell peppers and silver queen corn too and Big Grocery is still in business.

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What point are you making?

 

[Jack Davenport]

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What point are you making?

A valid one. As I said before, I am for the legalization of pot. If people could legally grow it themselves like garden vegetables it would have zero effect on Big Pharma. Now if they could manufacture their own Hillbillly Heroin and psychotropic drugs it might have some effect on them.

 

[Mayhem]

A valid one. As I said before, I am for the legalization of pot. If people could legally grow it themselves like garden vegetables it would have zero effect on Big Pharma. Now if they could manufacture their own Hillbillly Heroin and psychotropic drugs it might have some effect on them.

You may feel that way, but Big Pharma itself disagrees with you. And so do I. Legalization is a crushing blow to Prozac, Ambien, Zoloft, and a gajillion others. And they know it.

And in terms of "Hillbillly Heroin and psychotropic drugs", it's called methamphetamine. And they make it in bathtubs all over America.

And, unrelated to this particular exchange but related to the thread as a whole, there's also a good market in drugs that help you kick other drugs. Who is making money off of that?

 

[Jack Davenport]

I said legally. Which I think is the source of the confusion here. Since we want to cut the big guys out of everything, let's start making gasoline too. Oh and "Hillbilly Heroin" is Oxycontin and Oxycodone not methamphetamine.

Yeah, I am aware that people cook their own.

 

[Mayhem]

I said legally. Which I think is the source of the confusion here. Since we want to cut the big guys out of everything, let's start making gasoline too. Oh and "Hillbilly Heroin" is Oxycontin and Oxycodone not methamphetamine.

Yeah, I am aware that people cook their own.

It's funny you mention fuel. That's where industrial hemp comes in. And interestingly enough, if we legalized hemp, we'd wipe out marijuana. That would be sad for me, but great for the country. We are ignoring a plant that is a truly effective source of renewable energy AND help us reclaim our garment industry from the third world. Look it up.

 

[Jack Davenport]

It's funny you mention fuel. That's where industrial hemp comes in. And interestingly enough, if we legalized hemp, we'd wipe out marijuana. That would be sad for me, but great for the country. We are ignoring a plant that is a truly effective source of renewable energy AND help us reclaim our garment industry from the third world. Look it up.

Yeah, I've heard of that. Thank God we have Hawaii as a state. Of course the commie libs would declare parts of Hawaii a national wildlife refuge so we couldn't harvest fuel grade hemp.