>>>The Republican Party Is The Problem

All political parties are a problem.
True, but it's important people don't fall into the False Equivalence Logical Fallacy or Bothsidesim. All political parties are flawed. That doesn't mean all of them are equally bad, or that their philosophies or the reasoning they use are equally valid.
 
True, but it's important people don't fall into the False Equivalence Logical Fallacy or Bothsidesim. All political parties are flawed. That doesn't mean all of them are equally bad, or that their philosophies or the reasoning they use are equally valid.
Mention one reliable party, and I will introduce Jari Sillanpää's wife to you!

(Old Finnish saying)


"Power belongs to the people and we have power, but we do not know how to use it."


(assari)
 

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Luxman

#TRE45ON
Corrupt members of the republican party helped evil ahole Trump plan and execute the Jan. 6 insurrection on the Capitol.
The republican party has always been the worst party for at least the past 50 years and has become more corrupt with every passing year.
The only way the republican party can maintain its voter base is by constantly lying.
The republicans' primary interest is to enrich themselves, at everyone else's expense.
 

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
"Power belongs to the people and we have power, but we do not know how to use it."
People have limited power. As a group they can grant authority. James Madison, Federalist No. 46: "... ultimate authority, wherever the derivative may be found, resides in the people alone." It's an elusive concept actually. The people are not homogeneous which then leads to varying priorities and outlooks. One person's hero is someone else's villain.

Lyndon Johnson's advisers before a speech right after JFK's assassination: "You can't make civil rights a priority. You can't fight for that in this speech. It's a noble cause but it's a lost cause. You can't win. You can't waste your time on a lost cause.'

Johnson: 'Well, what the hell's a presidency for then?'

[Yes, the guy who escalated Vietnam wanted to be known for civil rights and education.]
 

Luxman

#TRE45ON
The GOP's Slow-Moving Coup | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)
 
People have limited power. As a group they can grant authority. James Madison, Federalist No. 46: "... ultimate authority, wherever the derivative may be found, resides in the people alone." It's an elusive concept actually. The people are not homogeneous which then leads to varying priorities and outlooks. One person's hero is someone else's villain.

We (the citizens) have limited power in our hands because we do not know how to use power.

First we have to realize that we have power and then the first action is that we no longer vote.


Such a measure causes chaos in society, but after that governments can no longer guide us in what we do and what we do not do.


People have only one good leader and he is Jesus Christ.


#uprising

#totalfreedom

#ingodwetrust
 

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John_8581

FreeOnes Lifetime Member
It wasn't broken John
Yes it is. Paul Ryan even said so himself. The Conservative Party is broken. He denounced ex-President Donald Trump in that speech as well as many GOP lawmakers.He called, "the Trump Presidency coming to a dishonorable and disgraceful end." .. As for the GOP lawmakers, he called them, "the yes men and flatterers flocking to Mar-a-Lago." Paul Ryan has said previously that the "Stop the Steal" dogma (from the 2020 Presidential election) is nonsense and far-fetched. The ex-President, in turn, has criticized Paul Ryan. The GOP lawmakers from both the House and Senate have sided with Donald Trump and they also have come out against Paul Ryan. That says to us that the Republican Party (and Conservatives) are a broken group.
 
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gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
We (the citizens) have limited power in our hands because we do not know how to use power.

First we have to realize that we have power and then the first action is that we no longer vote.


Such a measure causes chaos in society, but after that governments can no longer guide us in what we do and what we do not do.


People have only one good leader and he is Jesus Christ.
Are you serious or is this sarcasm? I am having a difficult time discerning your intent here.
 

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
Yes it is. Paul Ryan even said so himself. The Conservative Party is broken. He denounced ex-President Donald Trump in that speech as well as many GOP lawmakers.He called, "the Trump Presidency coming to a dishonorable and disgraceful end." .. As for the GOP lawmakers, he called them, "the yes men and flatterers flocking to Mar-a-Lago." Paul Ryan has said previously that the "Stop the Steal" dogma (from the 2020 Presidential election) is nonsense and far-fetched. The ex-President, in turn, has criticized Paul Ryan. The GOP lawmakers from both the House and Senate have sided with Donald Trump and they also have come out against Paul Ryan. That says to us that the Republican Party (and Conservatives) are a broken group.
The Republicans are certainly a fractured group. They are CINOs - Conservatives In Name Only. In reality, they are a very radical group.
 
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Are you serious or is this sarcasm? I am having a difficult time discerning your intent here.
It was not sarcasm. Read the Bible and learn that no one is allowed to stand above others, so we are also not allowed to worship any worldly leader.
 
They have no real ideology as a whole anymore other than doing and saying whatever they think has the best chance of them retaining their personal power. Considering how scared they are of Trumpiken base that means they are falling over themselves to appease them, as horrible as that is. They have sold their souls to Trumpism in the attempt to hold onto any table scraps for themselves they can.

The total nutcases among the Republicans might be the only ones that show their true colors, and they are the ones that are totally unhinged from sanity. It shows you how bad it's gotten.
 

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
We (the citizens) have limited power in our hands because we do not know how to use power.
First we have to realize that we have power and then the first action is that we no longer vote.
If you do not vote you are ceding power to those who do vote. The alternative is violence to enact your agenda.

People have only one good leader and he is Jesus Christ.
Since you posted a pic of armed-Jesus, here's another 'leader' with a gun:
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It was not sarcasm. Read the Bible and learn that no one is allowed to stand above others, so we are also not allowed to worship any worldly leader.
I will quote myself from May 2020:
Thanks for the reading suggestion, but I have read it (as in all of it) and studied it (thanks to my parents). The 11th commandment is my favorite. We should all practice it. As a practicing agnostic I've chosen science as a guide. ... I read it as a child, teenager, and in my early 20s. Now I'm in my 50s. Youthful delusions escaped me. My parents were quite fond of the book, so I had an early start. I find the history of religion fascinating actually.
Perhaps you should read it as well. Your answer is in Matthew (and Mark and Luke):
Jesus: "Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.”
 

Theopolis Q. Hossenffer

I am in America, not of it.
John what i meant is that in todays Trumpista party if Paul Ryan want to succeed he has to learn to lick ass, particularly The Donald's ass. Others have done so and succeeded. If he want to be a New Real Republican, he has to fall into line.
 
If you do not vote you are ceding power to those who do vote. The alternative is violence to enact your agenda.


Since you posted a pic of armed-Jesus, here's another 'leader' with a gun:
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I will quote myself from May 2020:

Perhaps you should read it as well. Your answer is in Matthew (and Mark and Luke):
Jesus: "Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.”
If the majority of the people do not vote, the elite will not be able to take power.


That person is just an individual terrorist.

Jesus accepted the payment of the tax because that money was used to keep society running.

That is why he said that people must give the emperor what belongs to the emperor
 

John_8581

FreeOnes Lifetime Member
John what i meant is that in todays Trumpista party if Paul Ryan want to succeed he has to learn to lick ass, particularly The Donald's ass. Others have done so and succeeded. If he want to be a New Real Republican, he has to fall into line.
Donald Trump is finished as a President let alone a leader of the free world. He'll be a convicted felon soon. Once Cyrus Vance Jr and the Manhattan District Attorney's Office, New York State Attorney General's Office, the U.S. Justice Department and the Internal Revenue Service will have their way with him. The IRS will get him and the Trump Organization on tax evasion and the filing of several years of fraudulent tax returns. For example, The New York Times said that the Trump Organization took over $70,000 plus for hair styling as a business expense when the tax returns were leaked to the media. Those expenses are personal in nature and are not deductible. The Trump Organization's accountants Mazars has avoided penalties by thus far by cooperating with the Federal Courts. Who knows what will happen when those accountants are called by the Justice Department to testify? More dirt on Trump will be exposed. Though the Courts will probably seal that testimony and the public won't know. Then there is still the $72 million refund matter that was granted to him in 2008 by the Inspector General of the Treasury Department. With interest and penalties, on the IRS civil matter, that will bring that up to over $100 million that he has to pay out of his coffers. Some legal experts are saying it could be around $114 million that has to be paid back. Then the IRS criminal investigation will start. The only assets that he'll have are the mansion in Mar-a-Lago, several hotels and those barren golf courses around the world. Maintenance and upkeep of those golf courses and hotels will drain all his remaining cash. Any other cash will be used to pay his lawyers defending him and the Trump Organization on these matters. He hasn't had any licensing deals in three and a half years since 2016. That means no incoming cash on his likeness and image. Therefore, he won't be able to launch his Media Empire without any cash or lines of credit. Deutsche Bank called in the majority of their loans on his hotels and on the land he owns. I believe that the Deutsche Bank has also stopped doing business with him and the Trump Organization. Remember too that he still owes personally $400 million dollars out to either foreign governments or to foreign businessmen. Those loans will be called in the next four years. And lastly, he'll be spending time in a federal lockup. Colorado is nice this time of year.
 
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