The Official 2008/2009 NCAA Football Thread

[young_guns]

This coming from somebody who advocated ******** towards me on a forum just because of something I TYPED. The irony of you stating that I'm acting like a *** is beyond description.

ok, junior im done talking to some 40 year old ***

 

[LUVbigboobs]

This post and some of your other posts are complete nonsense, Luv. What the hell does Boise State's performance last year mean for this year? NOTHING DUDE. Leave it in the past. I know that, in your mind, Ohio State was good enough last year so that must be the reason why they are in the BCS this year, but that faulty logic ***** THE SANCTITY OF THE BCS.

Boise State would beat you beloved Ohio State THIS YEAR. Not NEXT YEAR and not LAST YEAR. THIS SEASON. YES, THEY WOULD because THIS YEAR'S BUCKEYES SUCK. Plain and simple. The Buckeyes had their chance to make their case and lost their 2 most important games. Ohio State and USC AND Boise State are all being harmed by their conferences overall shittiness collectively. But tOSU had its chances this season to win and they didn't in the big games.

Texas is going to pound them and frankly, as a Buckeyes fan, the last thing I would think you'd want for your team is watching them getting a pounding on national TV in a bowl game BECAUSE THE ENTIRE NATION will be venting frustration at Ohio State for not belonging in the BCS!

Is it Boise State's fault that their "superior" opponents don't take them seriously in your eyes? Seriously? Do you think Boise State gives a **** about that? They play. They win. End of story.

I fail to see how you claim Ohio State would play better in the USC game if only Pryor had more experience. Dude. That's another lame excuse. Maybe USC would've hung 80 on Ohio State if Sanchez had more experience. It was his first season starting too.:dunno:

I am the Boise State dicklicker on this board, so keep that in mind. I do believe Boise State should leave the WAC and head into the Mountain West. Will the MWC want a potential Goliath program in their conference? Maybe, maybe not. But I don't think they can be held accountable for their opponents on their schdule playing great or sucking. You make the schedule and you play the opponent. Nobody has a crystal ball to determine WHICH TEAMS WILL BE AWESOME IN 4 Years and which teams will suck..these schedules are determined years in advance you know. Fresno State tries to play any bigname opponent for ALL THEIR OOC. They win some. They lose some. But this strategy means they've never won a Conf CHampionship since Boise State became a power. Maybe this is not the best strategy in the BCS universe.

Boise State has had 4 undefeated seasons in 7 years? They're not as bad as you seem to think. Oregon was ranked #19 when the beat them. Maybe Boise State will try to get some OOC games with some national powers but will the national powers want to to play them now...:dunno:

Indeed. So why do you and Boise State dicklicker #2 keep bringing up how the Broncos beat Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl two years ago? Especially since Boise State is actually only 1 - 3 in their last 4 bowl games, as I posted earlier, showing that your beloved Broncos aren't quite as stout against out-of-conference opposition as you and Boise State dicklicker #2 keep trying to imply. Oh, that's right - what happened in the past isn't important when talking about this season, right?

This post and some of your other posts are complete nonsense, Luv. What the hell does Boise State's performance last year mean for this year? NOTHING DUDE. Leave it in the past. I know that, in your mind, Ohio State was good enough last year so that must be the reason why they are in the BCS this year, but that faulty logic ***** THE SANCTITY OF THE BCS.

Boise State would beat you beloved Ohio State THIS YEAR. Not NEXT YEAR and not LAST YEAR. THIS SEASON. YES, THEY WOULD because THIS YEAR'S BUCKEYES SUCK. Plain and simple. The Buckeyes had their chance to make their case and lost their 2 most important games. Ohio State and USC AND Boise State are all being harmed by their conferences overall shittiness collectively. But tOSU had its chances this season to win and they didn't in the big games.

Texas is going to pound them and frankly, as a Buckeyes fan, the last thing I would think you'd want for your team is watching them getting a pounding on national TV in a bowl game BECAUSE THE ENTIRE NATION will be venting frustration at Ohio State for not belonging in the BCS!

Is it Boise State's fault that their "superior" opponents don't take them seriously in your eyes? Seriously? Do you think Boise State gives a **** about that? They play. They win. End of story.

I fail to see how you claim Ohio State would play better in the USC game if only Pryor had more experience. Dude. That's another lame excuse. Maybe USC would've hung 80 on Ohio State if Sanchez had more experience. It was his first season starting too.:dunno:

I am the Boise State dicklicker on this board, so keep that in mind. I do believe Boise State should leave the WAC and head into the Mountain West. Will the MWC want a potential Goliath program in their conference? Maybe, maybe not. But I don't think they can be held accountable for their opponents on their schdule playing great or sucking. You make the schedule and you play the opponent. Nobody has a crystal ball to determine WHICH TEAMS WILL BE AWESOME IN 4 Years and which teams will suck..these schedules are determined years in advance you know. Fresno State tries to play any bigname opponent for ALL THEIR OOC. They win some. They lose some. But this strategy means they've never won a Conf CHampionship since Boise State became a power. Maybe this is not the best strategy in the BCS universe.

Boise State has had 4 undefeated seasons in 7 years? They're not as bad as you seem to think. Oregon was ranked #19 when the beat them. Maybe Boise State will try to get some OOC games with some national powers but will the national powers want to to play them now...:dunno:

You obviously have something against the Ohio State Buckeyes when you come up with the kind of nonsense that I bolded above. You can't honestly be trying to convince anyone that a team playing with a college quarterback with NO experience is generally going to do as well as a team that has an EXPERIENCED quarterback, can you be? Or that had Mark Sanchez had more experience that maybe the Trojans would have "hung 80 points" on Ohio State earlier this season? Man, you call my posts "nonsense" but when anyone wants to see some real whoppers within this thread all they have to do is look for posts from Boise State dicklicker #1 o.k.a "titsrock."

Well, it will be hard to argue that when the rankings come out this week that Oklahoma will be BCS #1 and Florida will be #2. That likely will equate to the Sooners being the favorite as the line opens. It may indeed move toward Florida as the game draws nearer. And, yes, I am obviously a Big 12 guy and I actually hope that your prophesy proves true. There won't be anything more incentivizing for Stoops than to tell his troops no one thinks they can beat Florida.

Also, Oklahoma has a helluva defense. There's just a natural tendency to relax late in games when you are scoring at a 60-plus clip every week. Their real weakness is special teams so if the Gators can exploit that they will have a distinct advantage. Should be a great game....just wish my 'horns could be part of it.

Never thought I'd say this but.....

GO SOONERS!

How do you figure? Alabama was the #1 BCS team going into the SEC Championship Game and that didn't keep the oddsmakers from making Florida the favorite (and a double digit one, at that) in that game. So I think it's hardly an iron-clad guarantee that the Sooners will be the favorites over the Gators on January 8th.

USC might be in the NC title game if the Pac10 were decent. I can't ever recall the Pac10 Conference being so weak all in all. The Pac10 took some lumps this year. Ohio State will have their oppty for revenge next season against SC. Pryor won't have Maulaluga chasing him down.

I don't know what to think about Penn State. They are solid in Defense. They can run the ball. But can they pass it? I don't know about the Rose. Something tells me it will be a close game this time.

You thinking it will be a close game should almost guarantee that it won't be.

 

[Jason z]

Ok... Who is Boise state dicklicker #1?? I am confused?

 

[LUVbigboobs]

Ok... Who is Boise state dicklicker #1?? I am confused?

Figure it out. It really shouldn't be all that difficult to do so.

This post and some of your other posts are complete nonsense, Luv. What the hell does Boise State's performance last year mean for this year? NOTHING DUDE. Leave it in the past. I know that, in your mind, Ohio State was good enough last year so that must be the reason why they are in the BCS this year, but that faulty logic ***** THE SANCTITY OF THE BCS.

Boise State would beat you beloved Ohio State THIS YEAR. Not NEXT YEAR and not LAST YEAR. THIS SEASON. YES, THEY WOULD because THIS YEAR'S BUCKEYES SUCK. Plain and simple. The Buckeyes had their chance to make their case and lost their 2 most important games. Ohio State and USC AND Boise State are all being harmed by their conferences overall shittiness collectively. But tOSU had its chances this season to win and they didn't in the big games.

Texas is going to pound them and frankly, as a Buckeyes fan, the last thing I would think you'd want for your team is watching them getting a pounding on national TV in a bowl game BECAUSE THE ENTIRE NATION will be venting frustration at Ohio State for not belonging in the BCS!

Is it Boise State's fault that their "superior" opponents don't take them seriously in your eyes? Seriously? Do you think Boise State gives a **** about that? They play. They win. End of story.

I fail to see how you claim Ohio State would play better in the USC game if only Pryor had more experience. Dude. That's another lame excuse. Maybe USC would've hung 80 on Ohio State if Sanchez had more experience. It was his first season starting too.:dunno:

I am the Boise State dicklicker on this board, so keep that in mind. I do believe Boise State should leave the WAC and head into the Mountain West. Will the MWC want a potential Goliath program in their conference? Maybe, maybe not. But I don't think they can be held accountable for their opponents on their schdule playing great or sucking. You make the schedule and you play the opponent. Nobody has a crystal ball to determine WHICH TEAMS WILL BE AWESOME IN 4 Years and which teams will suck..these schedules are determined years in advance you know. Fresno State tries to play any bigname opponent for ALL THEIR OOC. They win some. They lose some. But this strategy means they've never won a Conf CHampionship since Boise State became a power. Maybe this is not the best strategy in the BCS universe.

Boise State has had 4 undefeated seasons in 7 years? They're not as bad as you seem to think. Oregon was ranked #19 when the beat them. Maybe Boise State will try to get some OOC games with some national powers but will the national powers want to to play them now...:dunno:

Boise State went to Athens, GA to play the Bulldogs two or three seasons ago and absolutely got their asses handed to them. I mean, they just got THUMPED. That's a pretty good example of how your precious Boise State Broncos would do when going up against true powers in college football. Yeah, that example is from the past (although, when you think about it, ALL results are from SOMETIME in the past, aren't they?), but Boise State's football team has been at pretty much the same level for the last 7 or 8 years so I think the example is relevant since it's from within that timeframe. You and Boise State dicklicker #2 won't think it's relevant, but that just shows how flawed you and Boise State dicklicker #2 are in your thinking, even if YOU don't see it that way.

The bowl games I'm most looking forward to in the upcoming bowl season:

EagleBank Bowl: **** Forest vs. Navy - I have my reasons

Pioneer Las Vegas Bowl: BYU vs. Arizona - I don't really like either team but it pits a 10 - 2 team that had preseason BCS bowl aspirations against one making its first bowl game appearance in about a decade and that is coached by Bob Stoops' ******* (for what that's worth) and that held Pac-10 champions USC to 17 points. Should be a pretty good matchup, I think.

San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia Bowl: Boise State vs. TCU - not what I wanted, 'cause I wanted to see Boise State play a GOOD "BCS" conference team such as Oklahoma State or Texas Tech, but this will give the two Boise State dicklickers, and the rest of us, a chance to see Boise State play a MEANINGFUL game against a good, solid team that has a VERY strong defense. TCU "held" Oklahoma to 35 points in Norman this season, which may not sound very impressive, except that the only OTHER team to "hold" Oklahoma to that "few" points was Texas. Of the "non-BCS" bowls this season, this is one of the ones that I am most looking forward to.

Sheraton Hawai'i Bowl: Hawai'i vs. Notre Dame - as I've posted before, I'm a Notre Dame football fan, though I admit that there hasn't been all that much to be excited about with regard to Notre Dame football for well over a decade, now. The Irish will be trying to stop their NCAA record 9-game bowl losing streak this year. Hawai'i's usually pretty hard to beat on the island so it's gonna be a challenge for the 6 - 6 Irish to finally win a bowl game for the first time in (get this) nearly 15 years(!!!).

Meineke Car Care Bowl: West Virginia vs. North Carolina - last season's Fiesta Bowl champions vs. an up-and-coming Tar Heel squad coached by Butch Davis. Should be an interesting matchup!

Champs Sport Bowl: Wisconsin vs. Florida State - a nice midwest vs. southern football matchup, the likes of which we usually get at least a couple of during each bowl season.

Emerald Bowl: Miami of Florida vs. California - Jahvid Best is a very talented running back for California and the 'canes are going to have their hands full trying to contain him.

Pacific Life Holiday Bowl: Oklahoma State vs. Oregon - the Ducks get two straight games against OSU with orange and black for colors (after crushing their Pac-10 rivals Oregon State in the "Civil War" a little over a week ago). The Cowboys' only losses were to the three co-champions of the Big XII South division this year and they have a good offense in their own right but if the Ducks' spread offense is clicking on all cylinders in that bowl game, watch out, Oklahoma State!

Brut Sun Bowl: Oregon State vs. Pittsburgh - the Beavers lost a chance at the Rose Bowl when they were annihilated at home by the Ducks in the "Civil War" but they had been playing pretty solid defense for several weeks until then. Pittsburgh had a solid but unspectacular season but comes in on a two-game winning streak. Should be yet another interesting matchup.

Outback Bowl: South Carolina vs. Iowa - the Hawkeyes are back in a bowl for the first time in a couple of years going up against a team coached by a former national championship winner. Should be a fairly even game, I think.

Capital One Bowl: Georgia vs. Michigan State - Big 11 vs. SEC for bragging rights (we seem to always get at least one or two of these matchups every bowl season). I think Georgia is the more talented team but Michigan State might be the team that's "happiest to be there" since the Bulldogs were the preseason #1 but lost three of their biggest games this year (to Alabama, to Florida, and to Georgia Tech). I think the outcome of this game will largely depend on how ready the Bulldogs are to play in it by the time kickoff arrives.

The Rose Bowl: USC vs. Penn State - Joe Paterno vs. Pete Carroll. Daryll Clark vs. the USC defense. The Pac-10 vs. the Big 11. The two winningest (in terms of winning %) bowl teams OF ALL TIME. The Rose Bowl in Pasadena, CA. What more need be stated?

AT & T Cotton Bowl: Ole Miss vs. Texas Tech - at first blush this might look like a mismatch in the Red Raiders' favor, but don't forget that Ole Miss beat both defending national champions LSU and 2009 BCS championship game participant Florida this season and lost to Alabama by only 4 points all on the road so this may not be the "cakewalk" for Texas Tech that at least some of you may be thinking it will be.

Allstate Sugar Bowl: Utah vs Alabama - "Non-BCS" participant vs. the team that was unbeaten and #1 in the BCS until just a few days ago. Utah's had a good season, no question about it, but this looks like a VERY tough matchup for the Utes.

Tostitos Fiesta Bowl: Ohio State vs. Texas - Boise State dicklicker #1 seems to think that this will be a beat down in Texas' favor. I'm not so sure about that. On ESPN tonight it was mentioned that the Buckeyes have good memories from the Fiesta Bowl from this decade (that's the bowl game in which they defeated Miami of Florida for the national championship in 2003 and in which they mashed Kansas State in 2004 after Kansas State had upset previously unbeaten and seemingly invincible Oklahoma for the Big XII crown in December 2003) and will want to keep Texas from tarnishing them, while the Longhorns will likely be out to "prove" that THEY, not Oklahoma, should be playing Florida for the national championship three days later. While Texas is perfectly capable of winning that game, I won't be at all surprised if it comes down to the wire with either team still with a chance of winning it (Lou Holtz asked the question tonight: "Which REALLY GOOD defense did Texas play this season?" Implying that they haven't and that the best one they're going to face this season is the one from Columbus on January 5th).

FedEx BCS National Championship Game: Florida vs. Oklahoma. Sam Bradford. The Oklahoma lines. Five straight games scoring 60 or more points (an NCAA record). Tim Tebow. Percy Harvin. Brandon Spikes. The Florida offense. The Florida defense. Tim Tebow. The national championship game. 'Nuff said.

 

[maildude]

I see we're playing Georgia in the Capital One Bowl. :eek:
I respect what Peterson has done with the Broncos, but he'd better get them ready for this one. The Poinsettia Bowl might sound lame, but TCU has a helluva defense. Plus they lead the nation in TOP.

 

[Chrism86354]

Our Spartans are going to have quite a difficult time with the Bulldogs. If they cant beat ohio state and penn state or even come close in that i dont think they can beat one of the top teams in the SEC.

 

[maildude]

Our Spartans are going to have quite a difficult time with the Bulldogs. If they cant beat ohio state and penn state or even come close in that i dont think they can beat one of the top teams in the SEC.

It's not completely hopeless. GA almost lost to SC and KY. They struggled vs Auburn. And the Dogs can be mistake prone. Stafford can panic under pressure at times. The Spartans need to stop Stafford and especially Moreno early, because GA tends to be vulnerable in the second half. All this means nothing if Ringer doesn't have a good game.

 

[Baill Inneraora]

It's not completely hopeless. GA almost lost to SC and KY. They struggled vs Auburn. And the Dogs can be mistake prone. Stafford can panic under pressure at times. The Spartans need to stop Stafford and especially Moreno early, because GA tends to be vulnerable in the second half. All this means nothing if Ringer doesn't have a good game.

I haven't seen the spread yet. I'm guessing GA by 10-11. Give me Sparty and the points.

 

[titsrock]

Boise State went to Athens, GA to play the Bulldogs two or three seasons ago and absolutely got their asses handed to them. I mean, they just got THUMPED. That's a pretty good example of how your precious Boise State Broncos would do when going up against true powers in college football. Yeah, that example is from the past (although, when you think about it, ALL results are from SOMETIME in the past, aren't they?), but Boise State's football team has been at pretty much the same level for the last 7 or 8 years so I think the example is relevant since it's from within that timeframe. You and Boise State dicklicker #2 won't think it's relevant, but that just shows how flawed you and Boise State dicklicker #2 are in your thinking, even if YOU don't see it that way.

You haven't seen the Broncos enough to put any substance behind that statement. However, seeing as I appear to be the only person in the nation who has a problem with tOSU playing in another Fiesta Bowl this season, there's no point in me arguing Boise State's BCS case anymore this season. Ohio State's in. Boise isn't and when they beat TCU in San Diego, I will have the last laugh. There's a general swelling of opinion that this TCU defense is something special all of a sudden. :dunno: I'm not really sure how they earned it, Luv, because by your criteria, they played nobody all season except for a beatdown in Norman.

Hawai'i's shitty play last year certainly left a stain in the minds of people as to whether Boise State is really any good this season. I guess I get that.

I think the best Non-BCS game is that Oregon/Oklahoma State matchup. I can't wait for that one. Should be, perhaps, the greatest Holiday Bowl ever.

I think the Cal/Miami matchup COULD BE GREAT if the 'Canes decide to come motivated. That one has the makings of one team excited to play (Cal) and one team thinking they deserve better (The U). It COULD be sweet.

The more I think about it the more I see another USC blowout shaping. I do think Steve Sarkisian's presence could hurt SC's offense. He won't be giving 100% to the game. BUT. I don't believe USC has actually blitzed an opponent since the Oregon State game. I think Pete Carroll is going to cook up some LEGENDARY BLITZES--Rey Rey up the Middle and Taylor Mays from the blind side--and basically destroy Penn State. Rey Rey made Juice put a brown stain in his pants during last year's Rose Bowl and I see a large brown stain forming in that Penn State QB's white pants...:thefinger

Isn't Navy vs **** Forest a rematch from this season? Who wants to see that again?

 

[Jagger69]

How do you figure? Alabama was the #1 BCS team going into the SEC Championship Game and that didn't keep the oddsmakers from making Florida the favorite (and a double digit one, at that) in that game. So I think it's hardly an iron-clad guarantee that the Sooners will be the favorites over the Gators on January 8th.

I never said it was iron-clad and I wasn't talking about Jan. 8....I was talking about the opening line. And if I can rely on a lot of the banter I have seen here about Alabama being overrated all year, why should a Florida win catapult them over Oklahoma? Oh well, there's that famous SEC bias.

However, it appears that your assertion has indeed come to pass so I'll eat some humble pie here (I have lots of practice admitting I was wrong after being married for 30 years so no big deal :1orglaugh). Actually, I'm glad the Gators are favored. Stoops will bang that drum with his players like there's no tomorrow.

Florida by 3 is what I'm hearing from Danny Sheridan. It'll be interesting to see which way the line moves over the next few weeks.

And why is a fucking Longhorn fan having to carry to banner for the Sooners anyway? How fucked up is that??? Where are all you dust-bowlin' Okie boomers out there??? I see lots of Gator dittoheads mouthing off here so why aren't you fighting back??? Oh wait, I think this site is outlawed in Oklahoma.....yeah that's it. :1orglaugh

 

[LUVbigboobs]

You haven't seen the Broncos enough to put any substance behind that statement. However, seeing as I appear to be the only person in the nation who has a problem with tOSU playing in another Fiesta Bowl this season, there's no point in me arguing Boise State's BCS case anymore this season. Ohio State's in. Boise isn't and when they beat TCU in San Diego, I will have the last laugh. There's a general swelling of opinion that this TCU defense is something special all of a sudden. :dunno I'm not really sure how they earned it, Luv, because by your criteria, they played nobody all season except for a beatdown in Norman.

Hawai'i's shitty play last year certainly left a stain in the minds of people as to whether Boise State is really any good this season. I guess I get that.

I think the best Non-BCS game is that Oregon/Oklahoma State matchup. I can't wait for that one. Should be, perhaps, the greatest Holiday Bowl ever.

I think the Cal/Miami matchup COULD BE GREAT if the 'Canes decide to come motivated. That one has the makings of one team excited to play (Cal) and one team thinking they deserve better (The U). It COULD be sweet.

The more I think about it the more I see another USC blowout shaping. I do think Steve Sarkisian's presence could hurt SC's offense. He won't be giving 100% to the game. BUT. I don't believe USC has actually blitzed an opponent since the Oregon State game. I think Pete Carroll is going to cook up some LEGENDARY BLITZES--Rey Rey up the Middle and Taylor Mays from the blind side--and basically destroy Penn State. Rey Rey made Juice put a brown stain in his pants during last year's Rose Bowl and I see a large brown stain forming in that Penn State QB's white pants...thefinger

Isn't Navy vs **** Forest a rematch from this season? Who wants to see that again?

Well, there's absolutely NO substance behind ANY of your statements so I have no problem with mine. If you're trying to imply that the Boise State Bronco football team is THAT MUCH BETTER now than it has been over the last 7 or 8 years, well, that makes you even more of a Boise State Bronco dicklicker than I already thought you were, and that's saying something!

You haven't seen the Broncos enough to put any substance behind that statement. However, seeing as I appear to be the only person in the nation who has a problem with tOSU playing in another Fiesta Bowl this season, there's no point in me arguing Boise State's BCS case anymore this season. Ohio State's in. Boise isn't and when they beat TCU in San Diego, I will have the last laugh. There's a general swelling of opinion that this TCU defense is something special all of a sudden. dunno I'm not really sure how they earned it, Luv, because by your criteria, they played nobody all season except for a beatdown in Norman.

Hawai'i's shitty play last year certainly left a stain in the minds of people as to whether Boise State is really any good this season. I guess I get that.

I think the best Non-BCS game is that Oregon/Oklahoma State matchup. I can't wait for that one. Should be, perhaps, the greatest Holiday Bowl ever.

I think the Cal/Miami matchup COULD BE GREAT if the 'Canes decide to come motivated. That one has the makings of one team excited to play (Cal) and one team thinking they deserve better (The U). It COULD be sweet.

The more I think about it the more I see another USC blowout shaping. I do think Steve Sarkisian's presence could hurt SC's offense. He won't be giving 100% to the game. BUT. I don't believe USC has actually blitzed an opponent since the Oregon State game. I think Pete Carroll is going to cook up some LEGENDARY BLITZES--Rey Rey up the Middle and Taylor Mays from the blind side--and basically destroy Penn State. Rey Rey made Juice put a brown stain in his pants during last year's Rose Bowl and I see a large brown stain forming in that Penn State QB's white pants...thefinger

Isn't Navy vs **** Forest a rematch from this season? Who wants to see that again?

There's always Boise State Bronco dicklicker #2, your second-favorite suck-off target. And you two never had much of a case to begin with, whether you believe that or not.

You haven't seen the Broncos enough to put any substance behind that statement. However, seeing as I appear to be the only person in the nation who has a problem with tOSU playing in another Fiesta Bowl this season, there's no point in me arguing Boise State's BCS case anymore this season. Ohio State's in. Boise isn't and when they beat TCU in San Diego, I will have the last laugh. There's a general swelling of opinion that this TCU defense is something special all of a sudden. :dunno: I'm not really sure how they earned it, Luv, because by your criteria, they played nobody all season except for a beatdown in Norman.

Hawai'i's shitty play last year certainly left a stain in the minds of people as to whether Boise State is really any good this season. I guess I get that.

I think the best Non-BCS game is that Oregon/Oklahoma State matchup. I can't wait for that one. Should be, perhaps, the greatest Holiday Bowl ever.

I think the Cal/Miami matchup COULD BE GREAT if the 'Canes decide to come motivated. That one has the makings of one team excited to play (Cal) and one team thinking they deserve better (The U). It COULD be sweet.

The more I think about it the more I see another USC blowout shaping. I do think Steve Sarkisian's presence could hurt SC's offense. He won't be giving 100% to the game. BUT. I don't believe USC has actually blitzed an opponent since the Oregon State game. I think Pete Carroll is going to cook up some LEGENDARY BLITZES--Rey Rey up the Middle and Taylor Mays from the blind side--and basically destroy Penn State. Rey Rey made Juice put a brown stain in his pants during last year's Rose Bowl and I see a large brown stain forming in that Penn State QB's white pants...

Isn't Navy vs **** Forest a rematch from this season? Who wants to see that again?

Well, we'll just see about that. They might win, but it's hardly the iron-clad guarantee that you seem to think it is, Boise State Bronco dicklicker #1. And even if they DO win it won't prove anything about how Boise State's football team "should" have been in a BCS bowl this season. I know you'll twist it around to make that seem the case, but by then nobody will be paying any attention to you anymore.

You haven't seen the Broncos enough to put any substance behind that statement. However, seeing as I appear to be the only person in the nation who has a problem with tOSU playing in another Fiesta Bowl this season, there's no point in me arguing Boise State's BCS case anymore this season. Ohio State's in. Boise isn't and when they beat TCU in San Diego, I will have the last laugh. There's a general swelling of opinion that this TCU defense is something special all of a sudden. I'm not really sure how they earned it, Luv, because by your criteria, they played nobody all season except for a beatdown in Norman.

Hawai'i's shitty play last year certainly left a stain in the minds of people as to whether Boise State is really any good this season. I guess I get that.

I think the best Non-BCS game is that Oregon/Oklahoma State matchup. I can't wait for that one. Should be, perhaps, the greatest Holiday Bowl ever.

I think the Cal/Miami matchup COULD BE GREAT if the 'Canes decide to come motivated. That one has the makings of one team excited to play (Cal) and one team thinking they deserve better (The U). It COULD be sweet.

The more I think about it the more I see another USC blowout shaping. I do think Steve Sarkisian's presence could hurt SC's offense. He won't be giving 100% to the game. BUT. I don't believe USC has actually blitzed an opponent since the Oregon State game. I think Pete Carroll is going to cook up some LEGENDARY BLITZES--Rey Rey up the Middle and Taylor Mays from the blind side--and basically destroy Penn State. Rey Rey made Juice put a brown stain in his pants during last year's Rose Bowl and I see a large brown stain forming in that Penn State QB's white pants...:thefinger

Isn't Navy vs **** Forest a rematch from this season? Who wants to see that again?

You use :dunno: quite a bit in your posts. I find that fitting since you don't seem to know much about anything as your ridiculous posts bear witness to. It's not an "all of the sudden" thing about people recognizing TCU's defense as being one of the best in the country. That's been well-documented since the beginning of the season, but you've been sucking Boise State's football team off so much that you missed it. Since you missed that you also missed that TCU held MWC champions Utah to 13 points, in Salt Lake City, and that they held MWC preseason aspiring "BCS buster" BYU to a mere 7 points, WAAAAAAAY fewer points than most other teams were able to hold BYU to this season. Go on with your blind allegiance to the orange-and-blue Broncos, BSU dicklicker #1 - fat lotta good it'll do ya since nobody else, except for BSU dicklicker #2, seems to care about the Boise State Bronco football team's "plight" about being left out of the "BCS bowl" mix.

You haven't seen the Broncos enough to put any substance behind that statement. However, seeing as I appear to be the only person in the nation who has a problem with tOSU playing in another Fiesta Bowl this season, there's no point in me arguing Boise State's BCS case anymore this season. Ohio State's in. Boise isn't and when they beat TCU in San Diego, I will have the last laugh. There's a general swelling of opinion that this TCU defense is something special all of a sudden. :dunno: I'm not really sure how they earned it, Luv, because by your criteria, they played nobody all season except for a beatdown in Norman.

Hawai'i's shitty play last year certainly left a stain in the minds of people as to whether Boise State is really any good this season. I guess I get that.

I think the best Non-BCS game is that Oregon/Oklahoma State matchup. I can't wait for that one. Should be, perhaps, the greatest Holiday Bowl ever.

I think the Cal/Miami matchup COULD BE GREAT if the 'Canes decide to come motivated. That one has the makings of one team excited to play (Cal) and one team thinking they deserve better (The U). It COULD be sweet.

The more I think about it the more I see another USC blowout shaping. I do think Steve Sarkisian's presence could hurt SC's offense. He won't be giving 100% to the game. BUT. I don't believe USC has actually blitzed an opponent since the Oregon State game. I think Pete Carroll is going to cook up some LEGENDARY BLITZES--Rey Rey up the Middle and Taylor Mays from the blind side--and basically destroy Penn State. Rey Rey made Juice put a brown stain in his pants during last year's Rose Bowl and I see a large brown stain forming in that Penn State QB's white pants...

Isn't Navy vs **** Forest a rematch from this season? Who wants to see that again?

I'm not sure you "get" anything, Boise State Bronco dicklicker #1, but I don't see why Boise State being left out of a "BCS bowl" because of the way Hawai'i's team got smeared last year should be a problem for you since that's the EXACT same criterion you and other Ohio State Buckeye haters seem to be using in sliming them this year. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, Boise State Bronco dicklicker #1.

You haven't seen the Broncos enough to put any substance behind that statement. However, seeing as I appear to be the only person in the nation who has a problem with tOSU playing in another Fiesta Bowl this season, there's no point in me arguing Boise State's BCS case anymore this season. Ohio State's in. Boise isn't and when they beat TCU in San Diego, I will have the last laugh. There's a general swelling of opinion that this TCU defense is something special all of a sudden. I'm not really sure how they earned it, Luv, because by your criteria, they played nobody all season except for a beatdown in Norman.

Hawai'i's shitty play last year certainly left a stain in the minds of people as to whether Boise State is really any good this season. I guess I get that.

I think the best Non-BCS game is that Oregon/Oklahoma State matchup. I can't wait for that one. Should be, perhaps, the greatest Holiday Bowl ever.

I think the Cal/Miami matchup COULD BE GREAT if the 'Canes decide to come motivated. That one has the makings of one team excited to play (Cal) and one team thinking they deserve better (The U). It COULD be sweet.

The more I think about it the more I see another USC blowout shaping. I do think Steve Sarkisian's presence could hurt SC's offense. He won't be giving 100% to the game. BUT. I don't believe USC has actually blitzed an opponent since the Oregon State game. I think Pete Carroll is going to cook up some LEGENDARY BLITZES--Rey Rey up the Middle and Taylor Mays from the blind side--and basically destroy Penn State. Rey Rey made Juice put a brown stain in his pants during last year's Rose Bowl and I see a large brown stain forming in that Penn State QB's white pants...

Isn't Navy vs **** Forest a rematch from this season? Who wants to see that again?

It is. I read that there is a specific clause in Navy's contract with that bowl that states there shall be NO regular season rematches when Navy is invited to that bowl game, so :dunno: what happened there. All I know is that I have my reasons for wanting to watch that game, even if GENERAL interest in watching it is relatively minimal.

It's not completely hopeless. GA almost lost to SC and KY. They struggled vs Auburn. And the Dogs can be mistake prone. Stafford can panic under pressure at times. The Spartans need to stop Stafford and especially Moreno early, because GA tends to be vulnerable in the second half. All this means nothing if Ringer doesn't have a good game.

That's probably true. I go back to what I posted earlier - if the Georgia Bulldogs are motivated to be in that bowl game then I think it's gonna be a tough one for the Spartans. If, however, UGa just "shows up" because it's disappointed about not being the SEC champions and not playing for the national championship itself after starting the season as the #1-ranked college football team in the country, then perhaps "Sparty" will stand a decent chance of winning that game. We'll see.

 

[ChefChiTown]

I'm not sure you "get" anything, Boise State Bronco dicklicker #1, but I don't see why Boise State being left out of a "BCS bowl" because of the way Hawai'i's team got smeared last year should be a problem for you since that's the EXACT same criterion you and other Ohio State Buckeye haters seem to be using in sliming them this year. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, Boise State Bronco dicklicker #1.

Boise State

12-0
Ranked #9

Idaho State (1-11) W 49-7
Bowling Green (6-6) W 20-7
@ Oregon (9-3) W 37-32
Louisiana Tech (7-5) W 38-3
@ Southern Miss (6-6) W 24-7
Hawaii (7-6) W 27-7
@ San Jose State (6-6) W 33-16
New Mexico State (3-9) W 49-0
Utah State (3-9) W 49-14
@ Idaho (2-10) W 45-10
@ Nevada (7-5) W 41-34
Fresno State (7-5) W 61-10

The only games that were close, that shouldn't have been, were against Nevada and San Jose State. Their game against Oregon (a good opponent) was close, but they won that game anyway. Other than that, Boise State destroyed their opponents this year.

Result:

POINSETTA BOWL?!?!?!?!
Non-BCS Game
vs. # 11 TCU​

Ohio State

10-2
Ranked #10

Youngstown State (4-8), W 43-0
Ohio (4-8) W 26-14
@ USC (11-1) L 35-3
Troy (8-4) W 28-10
Minnesota (7-5) W 34-21
@ Wisconsin (7-5) W 20-17
Purdue (4-8) W 16-3
@ Michigan State (9-3) W 45-7
Penn State (11-1) L 13-6
@ Northwestern (9-3) W 45-10
@ Illinois (5-7) W 30-20
Michigan (3-9) W 42-7

Ohio State barely beat Ohio, barely beat Wisconsin, barely beat Purdue and barely beat Illinois; all of which were garbage teams this year.

Their wins against Michigan State and Northwestern are the only 2 wins that Ohio State posted this year that hold any sort of credibility. For being such an established "power house", that's pretty sad.

Result:

FIESTA BOWL?!?!?!?!
BCS Game
vs. # 3 Texas​

The only reason that Ohio State gets pushed so hard is because they generate a lot of money. Ohio State has NO BUSINESS playing against Texas and everybody in the world knows it...including Ohio State.

 

[LUVbigboobs]

Boise State

12-0
Ranked #9

Idaho State (1-11) W 49-7
Bowling Green (6-6) W 20-7
@ Oregon (9-3) W 37-32
Louisiana Tech (7-5) W 38-3
@ Southern Miss (6-6) W 24-7
Hawaii (7-6) W 27-7
@ San Jose State (6-6) W 33-16
New Mexico State (3-9) W 49-0
Utah State (3-9) W 49-14
@ Idaho (2-10) W 45-10
@ Nevada (7-5) W 41-34
Fresno State (7-5) W 61-10

The only games that were close, that shouldn't have been, were against Nevada and San Jose State. Their game against Oregon (a good opponent) was close, but they won that game anyway. Other than that, Boise State destroyed their opponents this year.

Result:

POINSETTA BOWL?!?!?!?!
Non-BCS Game
vs. # 11 TCU​

Ohio State

10-2
Ranked #10

Youngstown State (4-8), W 43-0
Ohio (4-8) W 26-14
@ USC (11-1) L 35-3
Troy (8-4) W 28-10
Minnesota (7-5) W 34-21
@ Wisconsin (7-5) W 20-17
Purdue (4-8) W 16-3
@ Michigan State (9-3) W 45-7
Penn State (11-1) L 13-6
@ Northwestern (9-3) W 45-10
@ Illinois (5-7) W 30-20
Michigan (3-9) W 42-7

Ohio State barely beat Ohio, barely beat Wisconsin, barely beat Purdue and barely beat Illinois; all of which were garbage teams this year.

Their wins against Michigan State and Northwestern are the only 2 wins that Ohio State posted this year that hold any sort of credibility. For being such an established "power house", that's pretty sad.

Result:

FIESTA BOWL?!?!?!?!
BCS Game
vs. # 3 Texas​

The only reason that Ohio State gets pushed so hard is because they generate a lot of money. Ohio State has NO BUSINESS playing against Texas and everybody in the world knows it...including Ohio State.

All this means is that I can now count YOU as Boise State dicklicker #3. "Better record" does NOT necessarily equate to "better team." That's something that you, Boise State dicklicker #1, and Boise State dicklicker #2 don't seem to understand very well. Suit yourself. Boise State's football team no more "deserves" a spot in a BCS bowl than Ohio State's does with the weak-ass schedule it plays. Most of the teams in the WAC barely qualify as being above "FCS" status. I'll take a team that gets tested almost every week it plays, even though it might not pass all of its tests, over a team that gets tested no more than about 2 times a season and then has nimrods gushing over it just because it's gone unbeaten playing almost nothing but a bunch of pansies. Your contention that some of Ohio State's victories came over "garbage" teams is interesting considering what Boise State's schedule consisted of. Utah State? New Mexico State? Idaho? Idaho State? Give me a break! The bottom line is that Ohio State's football team is in a BCS bowl this season while Boise State's is not so we're just gonna have to see how everything plays out. Until Boise State's regular opponents become more challenging for Boise State than they currently are, you'll never see ME gushing about those orange-and-blue-clad wienies the way you, Boise State dicklicker #1, and Boise State dicklicker #2, do.

 

[ChefChiTown]

All this means is that I can now count YOU as Boise State dicklicker #3. "Better record" does NOT necessarily equate to "better team." That's something that you, Boise State dicklicker #1, and Boise State dicklicker #2 don't seem to understand very well.

I agree. Case in point, when LSU (a team with a worse record) fucking EMBARASSED your precious Ohio State Buckeyes last year in the National Championship.

Oh, and when did I say that I liked or even supported Boise State? Point that out to me.

And, if we're going to be playfully calling eachother "clever" names, then I'm going to start calling you...

Trendy-thoughtless-blind-to-reality-in-a-complete-state-of-denial-that-Ohio State-is-the-most-over-rated-college-football-team-ever-piece-of-****

 

[LUVbigboobs]

I agree. Case in point, when LSU (a team with a worse record) fucking EMBARASSED your precious Ohio State Buckeyes last year in the National Championship.

Oh, and when did I say that I liked or even supported Boise State? Point that out to me.

And, if we're going to be playfully calling eachother "clever" names, then I'm going to start calling you...

Trendy-thoughtless-blind-to-reality-in-a-complete-state-of-denial-that-Ohio State-is-the-most-over-rated-college-football-team-ever-piece-of-****

I've posted before that I'm not an Ohio State Buckeye fan, but apparently you don't read very well. If it's true that you're not a Boise State Bronco dicklicker, then why do you step into the ring with Boise State Bronco dicklicker #1 and Boise State dicklicker #2 and claim that they "deserve" a BCS bowl bid when YOU KNOW that they've played no more than one or two teams of substance this season (as, indeed, is the case for them EVERY YEAR)? You guys can stick to your opinion but that shows how weak-minded you all are for believing all the hype about a college football team that almost never plays anybody of any real substance. And your example, above, using LSU beating Ohio State in last season's national championship game? Apples and oranges, bub. LSU plays in a recognized top-tier football conference and plays TOUGH opponents almost every time it steps out onto the football field. The same CANNOT be said of Boise State no matter WHAT you, Boise State dicklicker #1, and Boise State dicklicker #2 want to believe, for whatever reason or reasons.

 

[ChefChiTown]

LSU plays in a recognized top-tier football conference and plays TOUGH opponents almost every time it steps out onto the football field. The same CANNOT be said of Boise State no matter WHAT you, Boise State dicklicker #1, and Boise State dicklicker #2 want to believe, for whatever reason or reasons.

So, when they beat Oklahoma the other year in a Bowl Game, they didn't beat a TOUGH opponent that night? They've proven themselves to be worthy of the national spotlight, yet...they're getting fucked over for no other reason than money. It's fucking ridiculous and everybody knows it.

By the way, since you claim that Boise State isn't beating "tough" opponents, who exactly is Ohio State beating on a regular basis that is so "tough"...??? What exactly have they done this year that warrants a Fiesta Bowl appearance against the #3 team in the nation? Hmm?

 

[Jagger69]

By the way, since you claim that Boise State isn't beating "tough" opponents, who exactly is Ohio State beating on a regular basis that is so "tough"...??? What exactly have they done this year that warrants a Fiesta Bowl appearance against the #3 team in the nation? Hmm?

Your (justifably) derogatory comments about OSU only serve to illustrate how far the Big 10 has fallen off in recent years. It's still a tough conference but no where near what it used to represent. The Big 12 (and even Pac 10 perhaps....at least as far as the respective conference's top team goes) has ****** it by and, together with the SEC, make for the 2 best conferences in the NCAA (as evidenced but this year's "championship" game).

Texas has nothing to gain and everything to lose by playing Ohio State in the Fiesta Bowl. As if to add insult to injury, not only do the Longhorns get shut out of any chance to make an on-field statement about where they belong as far as college football's best teams go by playing for the outright title (a strong case can be made since Oklahoma is in the title game), but they also have to suffer the ignominious anguish of being ****** to play the #10 team in the nation in their bowl game.

If it wasn't for the cash involved for the school (and meaning no disrespect toward OSU and their program....arguably among the best in the nation year-after-year), I think it would be really cool if Mack Brown turned down the invitation under the pretext that he didn't want to risk having any of his returning players injured. If Texas beats OSU, how do they benefit in the final rankings? And if they lose.....well, you fill in the blanks.

Again, for the umpteenth time, the BCS sucks and has got to go. These ridiculous bowl affiliations are pointless. Who here wouldn't rather see Texas against either Alabama or USC? Hell, I'd even argue that a rematch against Texas Tech would be more compelling than what we've got! A lot of the other bowl matchups suck as well due to the same type of obligatory nonsense. When does this insanity finally end once and for all?

I dearly love college football....to me, it's way better than the NFL. But the method for deciding the champion is decidedly inferior to any other sport there is. We, as loyal fans, deserve better. A LOT better.

 

[rwill25]

Your (justifably) derogatory comments about OSU only serve to illustrate how far the Big 10 has fallen off in recent years. It's still a tough conference but no where near what it used to represent. The Big 12 (and even Pac 10 perhaps....at least as far as the respective conference's top team goes) has ****** it by and, together with the SEC, make for the 2 best conferences in the NCAA (as evidenced but this year's "championship" game).

Texas has nothing to gain and everything to lose by playing Ohio State in the Fiesta Bowl. As if to add insult to injury, not only do the Longhorns get shut out of any chance to make an on-field statement about where they belong as far as college football's best teams go by playing for the outright title (a strong case can be made since Oklahoma is in the title game), but they also have to suffer the ignominious anguish of being ****** to play the #10 team in the nation in their bowl game.

If it wasn't for the cash involved for the school (and meaning no disrespect toward OSU and their program....arguably among the best in the nation year-after-year), I think it would be really cool if Mack Brown turned down the invitation under the pretext that he didn't want to risk having any of his returning players injured. If Texas beats OSU, how do they benefit in the final rankings? And if they lose.....well, you fill in the blanks.

Again, for the umpteenth time, the BCS sucks and has got to go. These ridiculous bowl affiliations are pointless. Who here wouldn't rather see Texas against either Alabama or USC? Hell, I'd even argue that a rematch against Texas Tech would be more compelling than what we've got! A lot of the other bowl matchups suck as well due to the same type of obligatory nonsense. When does this insanity finally end once and for all?

I dearly love college football....to me, it's way better than the NFL. But the method for deciding the champion is decidedly inferior to any other sport there is. We, as loyal fans, deserve better. A LOT better.

Just be glad you're playing Ohio St and not Boise St(which should have been the team in this slot). You will have more to gain playing Ohio St, but the only downside is now you have to blow them out.

Coming from a sooner fan

 

[titsrock]

Luv, if you ever come back to the board, some clarifications:

1. It amused me to refer to myself as Boise State dicklicker. It seemed funny and I thought you saw the humor in it too. I am a Trojan supporter first/foremost. I simply appreciate the creativity that Boise State is known for and root for them. You did state your manlove for Notre Dame but you couldn't keep your emotions in check because if you believe I have something against tOSU, well, I wonder what you would've thought had we got around to discussing your beloved Irish. :eek: But since you obviously embarassed yourself and got ******, let's cease and desist from all name-calling in the future. Youngguns simply agreed with my assertion that BSU should be in the BCS at tOSU's expense.

2. Nobody on ESPN's bowl selection show uttered a problem with tOSU vs Texas. Nobody championed Boise State instead of Ohio State. Therefore, it's not a big enough issue to merit further discussion.

3. I fail to see how TCU can get so much "cred" all of a sudden simply because they have a statistically superior defense, even though their schedule ain't much better than Boise's. I understand that this game needs a "sales pitch" to generate interest because neither Boise State nor TCU have much tradition to sell themselves. I will tune into it and maybe I'm underselling TCU's defense. I'll see soon enough.

Jagger--If Texas destroys tOSU and Okie beats Florida...Texas can politic to claim the AP National Championship.

 

[maildude]

Why has this thread turned into a flamethrower? :dunno:
Ohio State does not deserve a #10 ranking. Not only is it NOT the tenth best team in the country, it's not even the best two-loss team in the country. Maybe the Buckeyes have under-achieved, maybe they've been mis-coached...I don't know. But you cannot compare their schedule to that of the Broncos. Team for team the OSU opponents are at a higher level. Sure Ohio State played some patsies--and at times poorly. But beating a ranked MSU team 45-7 and a ranked Badger team in Wisconsin 20-17 means a lot more than beating Idaho State or Louisiana Tech(who lost to Army). The computers reflect that(yes, occasionally they're right). Here's something that has been overlooked: the non-BCS schools--like Boise State--get one spot left open in the BCS bowl schedule despite contributing little in comparison to programs like OSU. Yes, it's a money game. Sorry about that. Hasn't the committee that oversees Bowl invitations done enough to placate the little guy? There is some room for being "fair" and "nice." Some.