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Should there just be a "Mass shooting in the US" sticky thread?

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism

Little Red Wagon Repairman

Step in my shop and I'll fix yours too.
According to CNN's sources: "the deceased shooter was found with an insignia on his clothing that read "RWDS," which authorities believe may stand for "Right Wing Death Squad."

The NY Post also suggests a right-wing motive:
https://nypost.com/2023/05/07/what-he-know-about-texas-shooting-suspect-mauricio-garcia/

Fortunately, there was a police officer nearby who responded:
https://nypost.com/2023/05/07/cop-made-frantic-call-for-backup-before-taking-down-texas-shooter/

Neo Nazis gotta build a wall around their clubhouses so Mexicans such as Mauricio Garcia can't sneak in and put their hand out for a membership application. Viva la raza!
 

Little Red Wagon Repairman

Step in my shop and I'll fix yours too.
My vision is not what it used to be. Can somebody please help me find the word "privilege" here? Maybe if we turn the lights back on in the porno theater. Oh great! Thanks! Now we can see better...

Nope. Still ain't there...

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gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
My vision is not what it used to be. Can somebody please help me find the word "privilege" here? Maybe if we turn the lights back on in the porno theater. Oh great! Thanks! Now we can see better...

Nope. Still ain't there...

2ndAmendment.jpg
Well-regulated is right there.
 

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
Well-regulated is right there.
Well regulated refers to our military, The army and navy were created just a few years after the Bill of Rights was written.
 

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
Well regulated refers to our military,
Not sure on that one since the amendments enumerated individual rights. If the first part of the clause refers to the military, then the second part would too. That would appear to defeat the whole purpose of the amendment.

The army and navy were created just a few years after the Bill of Rights was written.
No. The US Army was founded on June 14, 1775 (Navy in 1775 and reconstituted in 1794) while the Bill of Rights was ratified in 1791 (three years after the Constitution was ratified in June 1788 with effect in March 1789).
 
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Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
Not sure on that one since the amendments enumerated individual rights. If the first part of the clause refers to the military, then the second part would too. That would appear to defeat the whole purpose of the amendment.


No. The US Army was founded on June 14, 1775 (Navy in 1775 and reconstituted in 1794) while the Bill of Rights was ratified in 1791 (three years after the Constitution was ratified in June 1788 with effect in March 1789).
I googled when the military was put in place, that's what it told me, so I went with it, obviously you googled a little deeper, so I will concede you are correct.

I want to add that, in other Amendments, the word "people" is used in several places to describe citizens, so I feel it's safe to say, it means the citizens in the 2nd. Of course we both have different views on this issue, and we might as well face the fact that until Mr. Peabody gives us a ride in his way back machine, no one will ever REALLY know what they meant.
 

Little Red Wagon Repairman

Step in my shop and I'll fix yours too.
If we were to reduce the amount of firearms we could still do it in a legal Constitutional way. Aren't many gang members in constant violation? Use laws already on the books to go after people in violation who's behavior is already seen as homicidal. To eliminate actual deaths it would require public servants to be courageous enough to risk political currency. In addition to dealing with Bloods vs Crips someone will have to moderate the gang fight between the Gun Control Crowd vs the Race Baiters.
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
If we were to reduce the amount of firearms we could still do it in a legal Constitutional way. Aren't many gang members in constant violation? Use laws already on the books to go after people in violation who's behavior is already seen as homicidal. To eliminate actual deaths it would require public servants to be courageous enough to risk political currency. In addition to dealing with Bloods vs Crips someone will have to moderate the gang fight between the Gun Control Crowd vs the Race Baiters.
The first thing that needs to stop, is this progressive idea of bail and justice reform. To many of these little rats are walking out with little, to no cash bail, How many stories do they put on Yahoo involving someone busted while out on bail. How many of these criminals have had serious charges pled down, to expedite things, when they should be in prison for years, not months. There should be a non negotiable 15 years for any crime involving a gun, 20 years if someone is shot or pistol whipped, and life, or execution. Assaults with knives or bats, or bare hands should be a minimum 15 or 20 years. They need to start using the RICO laws to prosecute these clubs and gangs. If they can use it on the mafia, and motorcycle clubs, they can use it on the black and latin gangs too. Make many of these crimes federal. Take away the freedom of local and state officials to reduce time served and bail. Make it uniform across the board, and not at the discretion of some of these ultra liberal mayors and prosecutors. These scum bags need to spend 10 hours a day in a yard, making gravel out of boulders.
 

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
I googled when the military was put in place, that's what it told me, so I went with it, obviously you googled a little deeper, so I will concede you are correct.

I want to add that, in other Amendments, the word "people" is used in several places to describe citizens, so I feel it's safe to say, it means the citizens in the 2nd. Of course we both have different views on this issue, and we might as well face the fact that until Mr. Peabody gives us a ride in his way back machine, no one will ever REALLY know what they meant.
Well, this may help: "I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people ...." (George Mason during the VA ratification debates.)
 

Little Red Wagon Repairman

Step in my shop and I'll fix yours too.
Again, I would take the Gun Control crowd more seriously if I knew they concentrated on where the murders occur and who is committing the murders more than building up a gun collection. A pile of guns is a stack of metal unless those firearms were confiscated from people who intended to or did use them for criminal activity. Removing 5 guns from my house while posing for a photo opportunity does not save one single life.
 
Again, I would take the Gun Control crowd more seriously if I knew they concentrated on where the murders occur and who is committing the murders .
Yeah, it's called the United States of American and the people in it. That seems to be where the gun murders occur among the world's first world countries,...you know because of all the guns it has.

I would take the pro gun people more seriously if they actually ever cared about all the other factors that go into violence, like poverty, lake of affordable healthcare, and education, but they don't unless they can blame somebody mental health as a diversion for gun violence.
 
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Luxman

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