Shooting in Florida School

[Will E Worm]

Before Nikolas Cruz carried out his mass killing at a Florida high school this week, police responded to his home 39 times over a seven-year period, according to disturbing new documents.

And a schoolmate, Brody Speno, told the network that cops were called to Cruz’s home “almost every other week.”

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[meesterperfect]

C'mon. Do I have to call you stupid?

 

[Jack Davenport]

The liberal goal of a majority Supreme Court is geared toward nullifying the second amendment.
It is the main reason they want control of the court.

:1orglaugh
Yep. We try to keep that on the down low, but you righties are so brilliantly insightful you're able to read right through us :1orglaugh

There is one thing that I can guarantee, even if the left were successful in taking away the right to bear arms, the second they were ordered surrendered or they were ordered to be confiscated, the deadliest civil war would break out in this country that would make the first civil war look like a skirmish.

That's the only thing in your post that makes any sense, and one of the reasons it does is because millions of moderate liberals and liberal gun owners would stand alongside you in that fight, including myself. But it isn't ever going to come to that, because they'd stand alongside you politically on that point first.

“ "Dan Pfeiffer was a senior advisor to Barack Obama, now he’s a contributor at CNN, of course. Last fall, he wrote an article attacking his fellow Democrats for what he bluntly called a fake moderation on guns.

“His advice was this: Stop pretending to respect the Constitution and instead focusing on appointing judges who will nullify it. The goal: gun seizures, ammunition regulation, the disarmament of the American population. A country where only the people in charge have guns and everyone else obeys.

I post this yesterday and it results in emoticonfest from you, then Tucker Carlson says essentially the same exact thing with quotes from Dan Pfeiffer.

I don’t think you are being dishonest with your denial, I believe you are woefully naive as to the ultimate goals of your fellow leftists.


https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/craig-...nly-people-charge-have-guns-and-everyone-else

 

[himperv303]

We are still waiting to find out all the details before we discussed it. We don’t even know if he obtained the weapon legally.

Does it matter?


Uneducated trump base will say anything to put up an argument.

 

[Jack Davenport]

Does it matter?


Uneducated trump base will say anything to put up an argument.

Actually it does Corky. This kid should have been arrested for issuing terroristic threats long before he purchased the weapon.
As for education, I have taken dumps that have more credit hours than you have.

 

[pool_hustler]

I'm supposed to take Tucker Carlson's word?

I post this yesterday and it results in emoticonfest from you, then Tucker Carlson says essentially the same exact thing with quotes from Dan Pfeiffer.

From 2013: 'Others with knowledge of the administration’s inner workings find the characterization of Pfeiffer as the base’s champion in the budget deliberations exaggerated and said he played no role in frequent White House discussions on gun policy strategy.
“I’ve never seen him,” said one leading gun-control advocate.'

I don’t think you are being dishonest

Thank you. I'm not.

I believe you are woefully naive as to the ultimate goals of your fellow leftists.

I don't know how that could be. I know thousands of democrats. Have worked for democrat campaigns. When the topic of gun control arises with these people it's never about banning or confiscation. There's no reason they'd be lying to me, and me selectively, en masse. There's no reason I would be excluded from knowing "the truth". I think the actual problem lies with your fear/belief that the far fringe has the power to effect something so monumental.
Maybe you don't understand this, but about 90% of us democrats basically roll our eyes when a group like (for instance) Code Pink says just about anything.

 

[sean miguel]

I don't know how that could. I know thousands of democrats. Have worked for democrat campaigns. Unless they're lying to me, and me selectively, en masse, for no reason, because there's no reason I would be excluded from "the truth", I think the bigger problem lies with your belief that the far fringe has the power to effect something so monumental.
Maybe you don't understand this, but about 90% of us democrats basically roll our eyes when a group like (for instance) Code Pink says just about anything.

maybe pool really IS Lanny Davis. ; ] <--- If I have to use emoticons, I'm using them on my own terms (that's a russian bot winking).

 

[Jack Davenport]

I'm supposed to take Tucker Carlson's word?







From 2013: 'Others with knowledge of the administration’s inner workings find the characterization of Pfeiffer as the base’s champion in the budget deliberations exaggerated and said he played no role in frequent White House discussions on gun policy strategy.
“I’ve never seen him,” said one leading gun-control advocate.'

I don’t think you are being dishonest

Thank you. I'm not.

I believe you are woefully naive as to the ultimate goals of your fellow leftists.

I don't know how that could be. I know thousands of democrats. Have worked for democrat campaigns. When the topic of gun control arises with these people it's never about banning or confiscation. There's no reason they'd be lying to me, and me selectively, en masse. There's no reason I would be excluded from knowing "the truth". I think the actual problem lies with your fear/belief that the far fringe has the power to effect something so monumental.
Maybe you don't understand this, but about 90% of us democrats basically roll our eyes when a group like (for instance) Code Pink says just about anything.

You don’t have to believe Tucker. He was only quoting what Pfeiffer said.

He wasn’t some city councilman from Modesto, he was a counselor to the president. You know like Steve Bannon was the puppet master over Trump?

Man, you guys live off of spin and plausible deniabilty.

Someone who worked in the White House harbors those feelings about the constitution and the 2nd amendment, of course they will deny it.

 

[Johan]

Kentucky Governor Blames Video Games for Florida School Shooting


One day after 17 people were killed in a school shooting in Parkland, Florida, the governor of Kentucky is pointing a finger at violent video games.

During an interview with Leland Conway on WHAS Thursday morning, Republican Governor Matt Bevin said he's heartbroken for the people of Florida, and blamed a "culture of death that is being celebrated" via violent video games, TV shows and music.

"There are video games that, yes, are listed for mature audiences, but kids play them and everybody knows it, and there's nothing to prevent the child from playing them," Bevin said. "They celebrate the slaughtering of people. There are games that literally replicate and give people the ability to score points for doing the very same thing that these students are doing inside of schools, where you get extra points for finishing someone off who's lying there begging for their life."

"These are quote-unquote video games, and they're forced down our throats under the guise of protected speech. It's garbage. It's the same as pornography. They have desensitized people to the value of human life, to the dignity of women, to the dignity of human decency."

While Bevin, who is endorsed by the NRA and spoken at the NRA-IRA Leadership Forum, didn't call for an outright ban on video games when pressed, he said he thinks people need to question what value such things have in our society. "Why do we need a video game, for example, that encourages people to kill people?" he said. "Whether it's lyrics, whether it's TV shows, whether it's movies, I'm asking the producers of these products, these video games and these movies, ask yourselves what redemptive value, other than shock value, other than the hope you'll make a couple of bucks off it. At what price? At what price?"

Bevin made similar statements back in January after a shooting in his own state left two students dead and 18 injured at Marshall County High School. "We are desensitizing young people to the actual tragic reality and permanency of death," he said in statement posted on Facebook. "This is a cultural problem."

Following the Marshall shooting, controversial anti-gaming activist and disbarred Florida attorney Jack Thompson also suggested video games were to blame. He wrote letters to Gov. Bevin and Kentucky State Police Commissioner Rick Sanders accusing state police of stonewalling the investigation. Thompson also claimed he was told by Marshall County attorney Jeff Edwards the 15-year-old suspect in that case played violent video games and his grandmother had recently taken them away, according to the Paducah Sun. Thompson, who was disbarred for life from practicing law by the Supreme Court of Florida in 2009, made a name for himself in the 90s and 2000s through a series of failed lawsuits that attempted to connect violence in video games with real-world violence.

Fox News contributor Tammy Bruce claimed that talking about firearms doesn’t get to the “core issue” of “the human condition.” She and the hosts of Fox & Friends also blamed drugs, virtual reality, and video games for the shooting.

https://www.rollingstone.com/glixel...deo-games-for-florida-school-shooting-w516826


So, video-games, not guns, are to blame for the mass shootings ? Interesting.
correct me if I'm wrong but video games are very popular too in countries such as Japan, South-Korea, UK, etc... Still, there's not wide-spread mass murders in these countries.


In fact, last years, there was a study saying that violent video games have a cathartic effect on players :
Countries that play more violent video games such as Grand Theft Auto and Call of Duty have FEWER murders : http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4275262/Countries-play-violent-video-games-safer.html

 

[Rey C.]

Somewhat off-topic from the gun control argument going on here, but news of several copy cat threats against schools has been reported. What is wrong with our society that doing such a thing is considered a cool/funny thing to do???

 

[~~whimsy~~]

Apparently this shitty cumshot turned flesh capsule is going to plead guilt to avoid death penalty. The judge should tell this bitch what the one judge told Nassar: I just signed your death warrant.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/02/17/us/florida-school-shooting/index.html

And apparently this oxygen waster enjoyed making video of himself shooting outside his bedroom window, making racial slurs and violent messages and "joke" about killing people.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/02/16/us/exclusive-school-shooter-instagram-group/index.html


Fucking end his existence.

 

[Johan]

Waiting for BC, Will or some other right-wing nutjob to claim he's a socialist, not a member of the alt-right...

 

[Rey C.]

Here's a case where I don't believe such a plea deal should be allowed. I think the money should be spent to pursue the death penalty. Course, there's a chance that there would be some soft-hearted buttercup juror that wouldn't go for the death penalty. But he'd still get life. Course, so did [NOBABE]Susan Smith[/NOBABE] for cruelly murdering her own children - and she's eligible for parole in 2024. These days, as long as the defense can present the defendant as a victim of something, I guess you'd be rolling the dice.

Eh, I don't get it. Just hoping for the mothership to come pick me up soon.

 

[Jack Davenport]

Waiting for BC, Will or some other right-wing nutjob to claim he's a socialist, not a member of the alt-right...

He had several references to Antifa on his social media pages and appeared to be quite infatuated with them all which have been suspended.

But who knows, he was 19, at age 19 I was somewhat fluid with my politics and ideology.
He was also being administered psychotropic drugs, but if the cotdam FBI were doing their job and not busy covering their tracks, this kid would be undergoing treatment and not spending the rest of his life in prison.

I wear your label of as a badge of honor, especially when there are plenty of “ left wing nut jobs” that have been doing a lot of killing lately in the name of politics. Think about that for a moment. James Hodgkinson specifically set out to kill people because he was a socialist nut job, Cruz didn’t have an agenda, he was simply sick in the head.

 

[Jack Davenport]

Apparently this shitty cumshot turned flesh capsule is going to plead guilt to avoid death penalty. The judge should tell this bitch what the one judge told Nassar: I just signed your death warrant.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/02/17/us/florida-school-shooting/index.html

And apparently this oxygen waster enjoyed making video of himself shooting outside his bedroom window, making racial slurs and violent messages and "joke" about killing people.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/02/16/us/exclusive-school-shooter-instagram-group/index.html


Fucking end his existence.

It is CNN so I would take the information and scrutinize it heavily. Especially when they contribute things like “ the comments were not made in jest” . They have no way of knowing this.

Judging by all of the white people that he killed, if he is a white supremacist, he sure sucks at it.

 

[himperv303]

Apparently this shitty cumshot turned flesh capsule is going to plead guilt to avoid death penalty. The judge should tell this bitch what the one judge told Nassar: I just signed your death warrant.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/02/17/us/florida-school-shooting/index.html

And apparently this oxygen waster enjoyed making video of himself shooting outside his bedroom window, making racial slurs and violent messages and "joke" about killing people.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/02/16/us/exclusive-school-shooter-instagram-group/index.html


Fucking end his existence.

I am not surprised, this is what the Trump base has always been. People who get kicked out of high school and think that being white makes them better than others.

 

[Jack Davenport]

I am not surprised, this is what the Trump base has always been. People who get kicked out of high school and think that being white makes them better than others.

Ben Carson agrees with you.

 

[Straight Shooter]

Somewhat off-topic from the gun control argument going on here, but news of several copy cat threats against schools has been reported. What is wrong with our society that doing such a thing is considered a cool/funny thing to do???

 

[Will E Worm]

Waiting for BC, Will or some other right-wing nutjob to claim he's a socialist, not a member of the alt-right...

Thanks for keeping me on your mind.

He wasn't an "Alt-Righter'.

He's a Mexican.

Nikolas de Jesus Cruz used the name Nikolas Cruz on Instagram.

https://www.inquisitr.com/4786754/n...ter-used-ar-15-gun-in-valentines-day-massacre

 

[himperv303]

Ben Carson agrees with you.

False front and excuses