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Shooting in Florida School
- Thread starter Chopper3000
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what's to stop that from happening now?
Wow, can you believe that : the states with the strictes gun lesgislation are also the ones with the lowest gun-death. That's incredible. And it completely contradicts the more-guns-less crime narrative...
Teachers aren't armed
Being that the majority of teachers are liberal/socialist you’re probably right.
The U.S. has about 300 million guns. How many guns in Europe?
Most U.S. gun crimes are with illegally obtained weapons.
they aren't allowed to be armed.
this gets rehashed every time there's a shooting.
you've laid out your proposals:
again, how would any of those hash tags have prevented what happened here?
oh nohs ban the ar-15. yeah, what did the two columbine shooters use? one had a shotgun if I'm not mistaken.
Exactly. And because they aren't allowed to be armed they aren't armed and they don't end opening fire on students. Which, as I said will hapen within a week if you allow teachers to be armed
Wow, can you believe that : the states with the strictes gun lesgislation are also the ones with the lowest gun-death. That's incredible. And it completely contradicts the more-guns-less crime narrative...
Teachers aren't armed
Chicago has the strictest gun laws in the country and people are gunned down every single day here
if a teacher was of a mindset that they would open fire on a student what would being allowed to or not matter?
or are you saying they can be entrusted to educate our children but not be entrusted to control their impulse and not open fire on one?
come to think of it, I've had a few teachers who I'm sure contemplated opening fire on me. But thank goodness for their better judgment and professionalism.
much less than that.
Less guns, less crimes.
And evn if most crimes are with illegal guns, if less people have guns, if there's less guns on the market, guns are more difficult to obtainb, even illegaly. So even among criminals, guns are not as common as they are now in the US.
Less guns => Les illegal guns => less crimes
Less guns, less crimes, that's just indeniable, all the facts prove it.
Oh I now what you're gonna say : You're gonna mention Gun-Free Zones. Actually having a little are where guns are not allowed in the midel of a much larger aread in which guns are allowed is totally stupid if youy don't make sure no one enters that little area without a gun
I say, there are some schools in which teacher have a particulary hard time with their students. Teachers are humans, humans happen to snap.
Chicago is a very secific case : by the time they implemented gun laws, it was al ready too late
So by those statistics you gave there were roughly 7 times more deaths due to mass shootings in the U.S than in Europe.
There is probably 10-20 million privately owned guns in all of Europe compared to our 300 million and only 300 more died in the U.S. than in Europe and with your gun laws?
You probably need to drop this argument, it is not going in your direction.
Ok, so since these laws don't work, if banning rape is uneffective, why don't you repeal these laws
If you think gun control wouldn't be effective and there fore shouldn't be implemented, why not getting rid of other unffective laws who bann murder, rape, robbery, etc. ?
#RapeControlDoesn'tWork
here we go again. President Johan and his super majority cohorts in congress: what laws would you pass that would have prevented what happened in this shooting?
You need to stop inventing numbers that fit your talking points : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country
In France, alone there's about 21,000,000 guns (31 guns per 100 people, as opposed to the 101 guns per 100 people in the US)
Yes, it was a guess as I couldn’t locate the numbers. Something about Switzerland having the most. So how many guns are owned in Europe?
No guns for minors under 21 years old
Mandatory background checks (criminal record, psychological evaluation) for every gun purchase
No automatics
No armor-piercing bullets
No high capacity magazines
No bump-stocks
No gun advertisement
Mandatory gun licence
Mandatory gun safety training every year for every gun owner (gun licence revoked if you don't do it)
Life-time ban from gun-possesion for every person found guilty of any crime
Ban from gun possession for every person on the CIA terrorist's watch-list
I don't know, do the maths for yourself.
My point is Europe has twice more people, stricter gun laws and 8 time less mass shootings.
Less guns, less crimes. Deal with it
so can serve in the military but not own a firearm?
even so, how would any of those have prevented this shooting?
he already broke the law by committing 17 counts of premeditated murder.
what other laws would have stopped him?
what laws stop gang members from shooting each other?
lol @ psychological evaluations before gun purchases. Yeah, why don’t we allow anti-second amendment politicians and psychiatrists to stack the deck against almost everyone to deny them their right to bear arms.
When I purchased my AR-15 I waited an hour in the gun store while the salesman ran a check on me with the FBI to see if I had been institutionalized or was a felon.
If the people at that school who recognized that Cruz had obvious psychological problems had reported him to social services he probably wouldn’t have passed the background check to buy his weapon.
When I purchased my AR-15 I waited an hour in the gun store while the salesman ran a check on me with the FBI to see if I had been institutionalized or was a felon.
If the people at that school who recognized that Cruz had obvious psychological problems had reported him to social services he probably wouldn’t have passed the background check to buy his weapon.
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