Shooting in Florida School

Yeah, arm the teachers. I guarantee you the day you arm the teachers you'll have a teacher opening fire on a student within a week
Not to mention that, if, in the chaos provoked by a shooter in the school, if a teacher pulls a *** and try to **** the shooter, there are very high chances he will only raise the death toll among the students



Thanks for the datas but you forgot this : https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/xdwpwk/mass-shootings-in-the-united-states-and-europe-in-2016

Europe : 53 dead, 169 injured (Europe population : 742,000,000)
US : 392 dead, 1,502 injured (US population : 325,000,000)
In other words, Europe's population is more than twice the population of the US but Europe's mass shootings death toll is 8 times lower
So, Ok, we deserved our 53 dead. But you deserved your 392 dead.

More laws aren't always the answer

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https://www.safehome.org/wp-content/themes/safehome/assets-***/img/***-Laws-vs-***-Deaths--A05.png

Wow, can you believe that : the states with the strictes *** lesgislation are also the ones with the lowest ***-death. That's incredible. And it completely contradicts the more-guns-less crime narrative...

what's to stop that from happening now?
Teachers aren't armed
 
Yeah, arm the teachers. I guarantee you the day you arm the teachers you'll have a teacher opening fire on a student within a week
Not to mention that, if, in the chaos provoked by a shooter in the school, if a teacher pulls a *** and try to **** the shooter, there are very high chances he will only raise the death toll among the students



Thanks for the datas but you forgot this : https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/xdwpwk/mass-shootings-in-the-united-states-and-europe-in-2016

Europe : 53 dead, 169 injured (Europe population : 742,000,000)
US : 392 dead, 1,502 injured (US population : 325,000,000)
In other words, Europe's population is more than twice the population of the US but Europe's mass shootings death toll is 8 times lower
So, Ok, we deserved our 53 dead. But you deserved your 392 dead.

Being that the majority of teachers are liberal/socialist you’re probably right.

The U.S. has about 300 million guns. How many guns in Europe?
Most U.S. *** crimes are with illegally obtained weapons.
 
Teachers aren't armed

they aren't allowed to be armed.

this gets rehashed every time there's a shooting.

you've laid out your proposals:

To all those who oppose any kind of ***-control : the ***** of these **** is on your hands.

"Thoughts and prayers" won't help to prevent this from happening again.

#MandatoryBackgroundChecksForEveryGunPurchase
#BanHighCapacityMagazines
#BanArmorPiercingAmmos
#BanRapidFireGuns
#BanBumpStocks

again, how would any of those hash tags have prevented what happened here?

oh nohs ban the ar-15. yeah, what did the two columbine shooters use? one had a shotgun if I'm not mistaken.
 
they aren't allowed to be armed.
Exactly. And because they aren't allowed to be armed they aren't armed and they don't end opening fire on students. Which, as I said will hapen within a week if you allow teachers to be armed
 
https://www.safehome.org/wp-content/themes/safehome/assets-***/img/***-Laws-vs-***-Deaths--A05.png

Wow, can you believe that : the states with the strictes *** lesgislation are also the ones with the lowest ***-death. That's incredible. And it completely contradicts the more-guns-less crime narrative...

Teachers aren't armed

Chicago has the strictest *** laws in the country and people are gunned down every single day here
 
Exactly. And because they aren't allowed to be armed they aren't armed and they don't end opening fire on students. Which, as I said will hapen within a week if you allow teachers to be armed

if a teacher was of a mindset that they would open fire on a student what would being allowed to or not matter?

or are you saying they can be entrusted to educate our ******** but not be entrusted to control their impulse and not open fire on one?

come to think of it, I've had a few teachers who I'm sure contemplated opening fire on me. But thank goodness for their better judgment and professionalism.
 
The U.S. has about 300 million guns. How many guns in Europe?
much less than that.
Less guns, less crimes.

And evn if most crimes are with ******* guns, if less people have guns, if there's less guns on the market, guns are more difficult to obtainb, even illegaly. So even among criminals, guns are not as common as they are now in the US.
Less guns => Les ******* guns => less crimes
Less guns, less crimes, that's just indeniable, all the facts prove it.
Oh I now what you're gonna say : You're gonna mention ***-Free Zones. Actually having a little are where guns are not allowed in the midel of a much larger aread in which guns are allowed is totally stupid if youy don't make sure no one enters that little area without a ***
 
if a teacher was of a mindset that they would open fire on a student what would being allowed to or not matter?

or are you saying they can be entrusted to educate our ******** but not be entrusted to control their impulse and not open fire on one?

come to think of it, I've had a few teachers who I'm contemplated it with me.
I say, there are some schools in which teacher have a particulary hard time with their students. Teachers are humans, humans happen to snap.
 
Chicago has the strictest *** laws in the country and people are gunned down every single day here
Chicago is a very secific case : by the time they implemented *** laws, it was al ready too late
 
much less than that.
Less guns, less crimes.

And evn if most crimes are with ******* guns, if less people have guns, if there's less guns on the market, guns are more difficult to obtainb, even illegaly. So even among criminals, guns are not as common as they are now in the US.
Less guns => Les ******* guns => less crimes
Less guns, less crimes, that's just indeniable, all the facts prove it.
Oh I now what you're gonna say : You're gonna mention ***-Free Zones. Actually having a little are where guns are not allowed in the midel of a much larger aread in which guns are allowed is totally stupid if youy don't make sure no one enters that little area without a ***

So by those statistics you gave there were roughly 7 times more deaths due to mass shootings in the U.S than in Europe.

There is probably 10-20 million privately owned guns in all of Europe compared to our 300 million and only 300 more died in the U.S. than in Europe and with your *** laws?

You probably need to drop this argument, it is not going in your direction.
 
We have enough laws. There are laws against ****, ****** and theft. They all still happen.

America has laws against illegals they still come here and nothing is done. America has laws banning Islam and they are still here.


Just ask those in Hollywood and the wealthy that get away with all these crimes and nothing happens to them.

Harvey Weinstein, Roman Polanski, Woody Allen and Jeffrey Epstein to name a few.
Ok, so since these laws don't work, if banning **** is uneffective, why don't you repeal these laws
If you think *** control wouldn't be effective and there fore shouldn't be implemented, why not getting rid of other unffective laws who bann ******, ****, robbery, etc. ?
#RapeControlDoesn'tWork
 
Ok, so since these laws don't work, if banning **** is uneffective, why don't you repeal these laws
If you think *** control wouldn't be effective and there fore shouldn't be implemented, why not getting rid of other unffective laws who bann ******, ****, robbery, etc. ?
#RapeControlDoesn'tWork

here we go again. President Johan and his super majority cohorts in congress: what laws would you pass that would have prevented what happened in this shooting?
 
So by those statistics you gave there were roughly 7 times more deaths due to mass shootings in the U.S than in Europe.

There is probably 10-20 million privately owned guns in all of Europe compared to our 300 million and only 300 more died in the U.S. than in Europe and with your *** laws?

You probably need to drop this argument, it is not going in your direction.

You need to stop inventing numbers that fit your talking points : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country
In France, alone there's about 21,000,000 guns (31 guns per 100 people, as opposed to the 101 guns per 100 people in the US)
 
here we go again. President Johan and his super majority cohorts in congress: what laws would you pass that would have prevented what happened in this shooting?

No guns for minors under 21 years old
Mandatory background checks (criminal record, psychological evaluation) for every *** purchase
No automatics
No armor-piercing bullets
No high capacity magazines
No bump-stocks
No *** advertisement
Mandatory *** licence
Mandatory *** safety training every year for every *** owner (*** licence revoked if you don't do it)
Life-time ban from ***-possesion for every person found guilty of any crime
Ban from *** possession for every person on the CIA terrorist's watch-list
 
Yes, it was a guess as I couldn’t locate the numbers. Something about Switzerland having the most. So how many guns are owned in Europe?

I don't know, do the maths for yourself.
My point is Europe has twice more people, stricter *** laws and 8 time less mass shootings.
Less guns, less crimes. Deal with it
 
No guns for minors under 21 years old
Mandatory background checks (criminal record, psychological evaluation) for every *** purchase
No automatics
No armor-piercing bullets
No high capacity magazines
No bump-stocks
No *** advertisement
Mandatory *** licence
Mandatory *** safety training every year for every *** owner (*** licence revoked if you don't do it)
Life-time ban from ***-possesion for every person found guilty of any crime
Ban from *** possession for every person on the CIA terrorist's watch-list

so can serve in the military but not own a firearm?

even so, how would any of those have prevented this shooting?

he already broke the law by committing 17 counts of premeditated ******.

what other laws would have stopped him?

what laws stop gang members from shooting each other?
 
lol @ psychological evaluations before *** purchases. Yeah, why don’t we allow anti-second amendment politicians and psychiatrists to stack the deck against almost everyone to deny them their right to bear arms.

When I purchased my AR-15 I waited an hour in the *** store while the salesman ran a check on me with the FBI to see if I had been institutionalized or was a felon.

If the people at that school who recognized that Cruz had obvious psychological problems had reported him to social services he probably wouldn’t have ****** the background check to buy his weapon.
 
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