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There we go with the "We are better than you" attitude you carry, not all Atheists, you. First you presume all people of faith are bigots. Next say they have a better reason. Now they are more acceptable to change. What the fuck are you talking about? You think Atheism can give you a free pass for being stupid.

And I didn't sidestep anything. I told you that sectarians are doing work that others are not. That's pretty clear. You say that missions aren't eliminating poverty. You have no idea what poverty is. These are some of the most remote areas of the world. No clean drinking water, disease everywhere, refugees forced out of their villages. If you think this is all just fancy marketing tool to sell books then they couldn't be going about it in a worse way, handing it out to people that can't read. Spreading bigotry, many of these people have never seen a white person.

When your family gets pulled of your roof as it's floating down a river, walk by those Salvation Army trucks passing out diapers and blankets. Tell them how stupid they are.
 

Ace Boobtoucher

Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
California existed in European literature way before Europeans settled the Western U.S. It wasn't a state filled with vineyards and movie stars, but an island in the West Indies filled with gold and women. The fictional paradise, first mentioned in the early 1500s by Spanish author Garci Ordóñez de Montalvo in his novel Las Sergas de Esplandián, is ruled by Queen Califia and “inhabited by black women, without a single man among them, [living in] the manner of Amazons.” The island is said to be “one of the wildest in the world on account of the bold and craggy rocks... everywhere abounds with gold and precious stones” and is home to griffins and other mythical beasts.

While there is some consensus that the area was named for the fictional island, scholars have also suggested that the name comes from the Catalan words calor (“hot”) and forn (“oven”) or from a Native America phrase, kali forno (“high hill”).

http://mentalfloss.com/article/25753/how-did-states-usa-get-their-names

Nothing in there suggests Indian or satanic influence, Commander Potato.

Still waiting for a rebuttal.

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In order to be a true Satanist someone has to believe that there is a God in the first place. So your story, as entertaining as it is, just isn't plausible.

By the way, do I smell popcorn?
Wrong again Bob ! You definately don't know what you're talking about
Satanism is not a religion. Satanists don't pray to imaginary superior beings. Satanists don't adore Lucifer.



What, The Devil?
by Magus Peter H. Gilmore

Satanism is not Devil worship. That comes as a shock to many who haven’t explored our philosophy and it is the prime misconception outsiders have regarding the Church of Satan. Our founder Anton Szandor LaVey asserted this stance from the beginning. Over the years, individuals with the need to feel embraced by a deity have claimed that Dr. LaVey somehow came to believe in a literal Satan. If we examine his work, it is clear that he never changed his mind about this, nor was belief in the Devil ever some secret “inner circle” practice of the Church of Satan.

We Satanists understand that both truth and fantasy are needed by the human animal. It is a step towards wisdom when one knows with certainty which is which. Man relies on symbolism and metaphor when building a personal conceptual framework for understanding the universe in which he lives. He has always invented his own gods using his carnal brain. From The Satanic Bible: “Man has always created his gods, rather than his gods creating him.” However, this act of creation is usually denied. History shows that the founders of religions claimed personal contact with the deity fabricated through their imaginations, and legions of followers bolstered that fiction. There is nothing wrong with fantasy, so long as an individual knows he is using this controlled self-delusion as a tool for dealing with existence. For we skeptical, pragmatic Satanists, it is wielded in the ritual chamber. Reliance on fantastic constructs becomes dangerous when the believers in spiritual religions dogmatically insist that their personal or collective fantasies are real in the world at large, that they are the only absolute truth, and then wait for the myth to guide them or try to force others to share this delusion. That has been the source for countless wars, as any student of history can see.

Dr. LaVey’s seminal book, The Satanic Bible published in 1969 lays out some basic principles:

The Satanist realizes that man, and the action and reaction of the universe, is responsible for everything, and doesn’t mislead himself into thinking that someone cares.

Is it not more sensible to worship a god that he, himself, has created, in accordance with his own emotional needs—one that best represents the very carnal and physical being that has the idea-power to invent a god in the first place?

From a 1986 interview with Walter Harrington of The Washington Post:

Satan is a symbol, nothing more,” LaVey says. “Satan signifies our love of the worldly and our rejection of the pallid, ineffectual image of Christ on the cross.

Accepting the axiomatic premise that no gods exist as independent supernatural entities means that Satanists are de facto atheists. We know that the objective universe is indifferent to us. Since our philosophy is self-centered, each Satanist sees himself as the most important person in his life. Each individual thus generates his own hierarchy of values and judges everything based on his own standards. Therefore, we Satanists appoint ourselves as the “Gods” in our subjective universes. That doesn’t mean we think we have the powers of a mythological deity, but it does mean that we revere the creative capacity in our species. So to distinguish ourselves from the atheists who simply reject God as non-existent, we call ourselves “I-theists,” with our own healthy ego as the center of our perspective. This is truly a blasphemous concept that flies in the face of just about every other religion, and it is why Satan serves us well as a symbol. He was described as the prideful one, refusing to bow to Jehovah. He is the one who questions authority, seeking liberty beyond the stultifying realm of Heaven. He is the figure championed by the likes of Mark Twain, Milton, and Byron as the independent critic who heroically stands on his own.

[...]
http://www.churchofsatan.com/WebBeta/what-the-devil.php

But as LaVey said : "Satanism is not for dummies".
 
Illuminati Blood Sacrifices & Solstice Sacrifices: The $20,000,000 Club

http://worldtruth.tv/blood-sacrifices-for-fame-and-money/

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Take a read and*examine*the facts about what is really going on in the Hills of the HollyWood.

To become the*wealthiest*($20 million+ club) for a higher position and royalty from the elite, you need to make a*human (blood sacrifice).*The Illuminati have also sacrificed many celebrities as a*human (solstice sacrifice).

BLOOD SACRIFICES FOR DOLLARS & FAME.




1. Kanye West*-*his mom.
2. Lil Wayne*- his father*and*Static Major
3. Jay-Z*-*his nephew.
4. Damon Dash*-*Aahliyah
5. James Prince*-*Pimp C.
6. T.I*-*his Cousin,*Dolla
7. Suge Knight -*Tupac
8. Diddy*- Biggie Smalls
9. Ludacris*-*Camouflage
10. Lady Gaga -*Lina Morgana
11. Nicki Minaj*- her cousin.
12. Soulja Boy*-*his brother.
13. The Game*-*Billboard
14. Eminem*-*Proof.
15. 50 Cent*-*Jam Master Jay
16. Dr. Dre*-*Nate Dogg,*his son.
17. Krayzie Bone*-*Tombstone
18. KRS-One*-*Scott La’Rock
19. Alicia Keys*-*her friend.
20. Bill Cosby*-*his son.
21. John Travolta*-*his son.
22. Eddie Levert*-*his son.
23. John Travolta-*his son.
24. Marie Osmond*-*her son.
25. Obama*-*his grandmother.
26. Heidi Montag*- Dr. Ryan.
27. Anna Nicole Smith*-*her son.
28. Mary-Kate Olsen*- *Health Ledger.
29. Jennifer Hudson*-*whole family.
30. Charice*-*her father.
31. Wyclef Jean*-*his father.
32. Michael Jordon*-*his father.






1. Mike Tyson*-*his daughter.
2. Liam Neeson*-*wife.
3. Cam’ron*-*Big L
4. Jim Jones*-*Stack Bundles
5. Queen Latifah*-*her brother.
6. Venus/Serena Williams*-*their sister.
7. Jackson Family*-*Michael Jackson
8. N-Dubz*-*Father/Uncle/Manager.
1. Joseph Gordon-Levitt*-*his brother.
2. Jesse Jackson*- Martin Luther King Jr.
3. Prince*-*his father.
4. Jamie Foxx*-*his grandmother.
5. Eric Clapton – his son




SOLSTICE SACRFICIES:

Ryan Dunn (from “Jackass”)**died age 34 (7), June 21st, 2011, 3*A.M
Johnny Cash & John Ritter*(September*11, 12, 2011)
Vesta Williams (September 22, 2011; 9/22/11; 9+2+2=13; 13=4; 2+0+1+1=4; 4+4=8;*age 53=8)
Steve Jobs died age 56 (11).
Wild Man Fische died age*66,*6/15(6)/11 (6+6+2+0+1+1=16; 16=7)
Elaine Stewart died age 81 (9), 6/27(9)/11
Carl Gardner died age 83 (11) and Laura Ziskin died age 61 (7), 6/12/11 (6+1+2=9; 9+2+0+1+1=13)
Peter Falk died age 83 (11), 6/23/11 (6+2+3=11; 11/11)
Leonard Stern died age 88 (7), 6/7/11 (6+7=13)
James Arness died age 88 (7) and Jack Kevorkian died age 83 (11), 6/3/11. (6+3=9; 9+2+0+1+1=13)
Elmer Pratt died age 63 (9), 6/2/11.
Christopher Shale*died age 69, June 26th, 2011.
John M. Couric died age 90 (9) June 22nd,11.
Jeff Conaway died age 60, May 27(9)th, 2011 (5+9+2+0+1+1=18; 18=9)
Mario Poffo died 58 (13), May 20th, 2011 (5+2=7; 7+2+0+1+1=11)
Mia Davis died age 36 (9), May 10th, 2011.
Cornell Dupree died age 69, May 8th, 2011 (5+8=13)
Sada Thompson died age 83 (11), 5/4/11 (5+4=9; 9+2+0+1+1=13)
Steve Ballesteros died age 54 (9) and John Walker died age 67 (13), May7th, 2011 (5+7=12; 12+2+0+1+1=16; 16=7)
M-Bone died age 22,*5/15/11 (5+1+5=11; 11/11=22;*11*P.M; 11/11/11)
Clarence Clemons died 6/18(9)(6/9=69)/11, 69 years old. (3 days before Summer Solstice)
Farley Granger died age 85 (13), March 27(9)th, 2011 (3+9+2+0+1+1=16; 16=7)
Ferlin Husky died age 85 (13) and Michael Gough died age 94 (13) March 17th, 2011. (3+1+7=11)
Nathaniel Dwayne died March 15th, 2011 (3+1+5=9; 9+2+0+1+1=13)
Hugh Martin died age 96, March*11th, 11 (3+1+1=5; 5+2+0+1+1=9)
Mike Starr died age 44 (8), March*8th, 2011. (3+8=11; 8+8=16; 16=7)
Mike DeStefano died age 44, March 6th, 2011. (3+6=9; 9+2+0+1+1=13)
Charles Jarrott died age 83 (11), March 4th, 2011. (3+4=7; 7+2+0+1+1=11)
John Getty III died age 54 (9), February 5nd, 2011. (2+5=7; 7+2+0+1+1=11)
Tura Satana died age 72 (9), February 4th, 2011.
Marie Schneider died age 58 (13), February 3rd, 2011. (2+3+2+0+1+1=9)
David Nelson died age 74 (11), January*11th, 2011. (1+11=13; 1+1+1+2+0+1+1=7)
John Dye died age 47 (11), January 10th, 2011 (1/10=11)
Alex Kirst died age 47 (11), January*13th, 2011. (1+1+3+2+0+1+1=9)
Peter Yates died age 81 (9), January*9th, 2011.
Gerry Rafferty died age 63 (9), January 4th, 2011. (1+4+2+0+1+1=9)
Charlie Callas died age 83 (11), January 27(9)th, 2011.
Gladys Horton died age 66 and Charlie Louvin age 83 (11), January 26th, 2011. (1+2+6=9; 9+2+0+1+1=13)
Charles Sellier died age 67 (13), January 31, 2011 (Last day, 1+3+1+2+0+1+1=9)
G.D Spradlin died age 90 (9), Dan Peek age 60 (6), Chip Mayer age 57 (3); July 24th, 2011 (7+2+4=13)
Tom Aldredge died age 83 (11) July 22nd, 2011 (7+2+2=11)
Gene McDaniels died (7/29(11)/11), age 76 (13)
Rob Grill age 67 (13) died July*11th, 2011 (7+1+1=9; 9+2+0+0+1=13)
Michael Burston died age 61 (7) July (7)*9th, 2011.
Sarah Burke died age 29 (11) years old,*9*days after an accident
Bobby Farrell died age 61 (7), December 30th, 2010 (12+3+0+2+0+1+0=18; 18=9)
Teena Marie died age 54 (9), December 26th, 2010 (12=3; 26=8; 3+8=11)
Steve Landesberg died age 74 (11), December 20th, 2010.
Alexander McQueen died 2/11/10,*9*days after his mother died.
Stephen Gately**died*10/10/09*(101=11; 2+0+0+9=11; *1+0+1+0=2; 2+11;13)
Selena*died March 31st(Last day), 1995. (7 days after Vernal Equinox)
Princess Diana**August 31st (Last day), 1997, age*36*(9).
Marilyn Monroe died August 5th, 1962 age*36*(9).
Tupac* Shakur died at*25*years old, September*13th, 1996 (9+4=13; 1+9+9+6=25)
Biggie died at*25*years old, March*9th, 1997 (3+9+1+9+9+7=38; 38=11)
Poly Styrene died April*25th, 2011. (4+2+5=11)
Jeret Peterson died age 29 (11) July*25th, 2011 (2+5=7; 7/7; 2+0+1+1=4; 7+7+4=18; 18=9)
Bud Greenspan died December*25th, 2010.
Farrah Fawcett died on June*25th, 2009.
Sky Saxon died on June*25th, 2009.
Michael Jackson died on June*25th,2009. (3 days after Summer Solstice)
James Brown died on December*25th, 2006. (3 days after Winter Solstice)
Dean Martin died on December*25th, 1995.
Eartha Mae Kitt died on December*25th, 2008.
Exodus Tyson died on May*25th, 2009.
Lisa (Left Eye) Lopes*died on April*25th, 2002.
Roger Troutman died on April*25th, 1999.
Aaliyah Haughton died on August*25th, 2001.
Static Major died on February*25th, 2008.
Ol’ Dirty Bastard died November*13th, 2004 (11=2; 13=4; 2+4=6; 2004=6)
Big Pun died February 7th, 2000 (2+7=9; 9+2=11)
Big L died February 15(6)th, 1999 (2+1+5+1+9+9+9+9=36; 36=9)
Buffy died December 10th, 1995 (12+1=13)
Eazy-E died March 26th, 1995 (3+2+6=11)
River Phoenix (Halloween*Sacrifice nights 1993)
Judy Garland**died 6/22/1969, the day after Summer Solstice.
John F. Kennedy died 11/22/1963 (Sacrificed 11+22=33 Masonic #)
Heath Ledger**died 1/22/08*3:30 (33) P.M (1+22+2+8=33 Masonic #)
Britney Murphy died December 20th, 2009. (1 day after Winter*Solstice)
Hollywood Stunt Pilot Crashes Aircraft, 11 dead and 58 injured (11/13) (9/26/11)
Stage collapses at Indiana State Fair before Sugarland concert,*7*dead and 40 injured (7+4=11) 7th person died August, Sunday (7) 21st. 2011 (2+1=3; 8+3=11)
The Costa Concordia (CC=33) in ‘chaos’ after crashing on January*13th, 2012.
Jimmy Leeward and James Kent “Jimmy” Leeward died September 16 (7) th, 2011 (9/16/11; 1+6=7; 9+7=16; 16=7; 2+0+1+1=4; 7+4=11)
Willie Smith died September 16, 2011 ^
Frances Bay died age 92 (11), September 15th, 2011.
Wilma Cooper died age 90 (9), September*13th, 2011.
David Edwards died August 29th, 2011,*3*A.M.*(2+9=11)
Russell Armstrong died age 47 (11) August 15th, 2011 (8+1+5=14; 14=5; 2+0+1+1=4; 5+4=9)
Jani Lane died age 47 (11) August*11th, 2011
Billy Grammer died age 85 (13) August 10th, 2011 (8+1=9; 2+0+1+1=4; 9+4=13)
Annette Charles died age 63 (9) and Bubba Smith died age 66; August 3rd, 2011 (8+3=11)
27*Club*(9): Amy Winehouse, Kurt Cobain, Jim Morrison, Janis Joplin, etc.
Age 33: Masonic degree, sacrifice.
The Illuminati’s signature & occult numbers are 7, 9, 11, and 13.
 

Ace Boobtoucher

Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
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alifornia existed in European literature way before Europeans settled the Western U.S. It wasn't a state filled with vineyards and movie stars, but an island in the West Indies filled with gold and women. The fictional paradise, first mentioned in the early 1500s by Spanish author Garci Ordóñez de Montalvo in his novel Las Sergas de Esplandián, is ruled by Queen Califia and “inhabited by black women, without a single man among them, [living in] the manner of Amazons.” The island is said to be “one of the wildest in the world on account of the bold and craggy rocks... everywhere abounds with gold and precious stones” and is home to griffins and other mythical beasts.

While there is some consensus that the area was named for the fictional island, scholars have also suggested that the name comes from the Catalan words calor (“hot”) and forn (“oven”) or from a Native America phrase, kali forno (“high hill”).


http://mentalfloss.com/article/25753/how-did-states-usa-get-their-names

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Still waiting for a rebuttal.
 

bobjustbob

Proud member of FreeOnes Hall Of Fame. Retired to
Eric, please tell us that you don't really believe that numbers thing. You did see the inconsistency with that list, didn't you? I joined Freeones in May 2009. 5+2+0+0+9=16. 1+6=7. Am I Illuminati?
 
I joined in April 2012. 4+2+0+0+1+2 = 9.

Shit I must be too.

Today is the 20th September 2014. 2+0+9+2+0+1+4 = 16. 1+6 = 7. Oh my god today is illuminati!
Tomorrow is the 21st September 2014. 2+1+9+2+0+1+4 = 17. 1/7 = 7. Holy shit tomorrow is illumitati too!
Surely this cant happen three days in a row?
22nd September 2014. 2+2+9+2+0+1+4 = 20. Phew, that's a relief.
 

bobjustbob

Proud member of FreeOnes Hall Of Fame. Retired to
I joined in April 2012. 4+2+0+0+1+2 = 9.

Shit I must be too.

Today is the 20th September 2014. 2+0+9+2+0+1+4 = 16. 1+6 = 7. Oh my god today is illuminati!
Tomorrow is the 21st September 2014. 2+1+9+2+0+1+4 = 17. 1/7 = 7. Holy shit tomorrow is illumitati too!
Surely this cant happen three days in a row?
22nd September 2014. 2+2+9+2+0+1+4 = 20. Phew, that's a relief.

You are wrong. 2+2+9=13. 2+0+1+4=7. Double Illuminati just like eric's Tupac Shakur example.
 
ILLUMINATI HISTORY OF SATANIC WORSHIP,
BANKING CORRUPTION, AND FINANCIAL SLAVERY



ILLUMINATI SYMBOL PAINTED ON THE STREET IN LISBON, PORTUGAL'S BANKING AND FINANCIAL HEADQUARTERS


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George Orwell ranks among the most profound social critics of the modern era. Some of his quotations, more than a half a century old, show the depth of understanding an enlightened mind can have about the future.


“In our age there is no such thing as ‘keeping out of politics.’ All issues are political issues, and politics itself is a mass of lies, evasions, folly, hatred and schizophrenia.”

Though many in the modern age have the will to bury their head in the sand when it comes to political matters, nobody can only concern themselves with the proverbial pebble in their shoe. If one is successful in avoiding politics, at some point the effects of the political decisions they abstained from participating in will reach their front door. More often than not, by that time the person has already lost whatever*whisper of a voice*the government has allowed them.


“All the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting.”

Examining the nightly news in the run up to almost any military intervention will find scores of talking heads crying for blood to flow in the streets of some city the name of which they just learned to pronounce. Once the bullets start flying, those that clamored for war will still be safely on set bringing you up-to-the-minute coverage of the carnage while their*stock in Raytheon*climbs.


“War against a foreign country only happens when the moneyed classes think they are going to profit from it.”

It’s pretty self-explanatory and while it may be hard to swallow, it’s certainly true. All it takes is a quick look at who*benefited*from the recent wars waged by the United States to see Orwell’s quip take life.


“The very concept of objective truth is fading out of the world. Lies will pass into history.”

My most prized books are a collection of history books from around the world. I have an Iraqi book that recounts the glory of Saddam Hussein’s victory over the United States in 1991. I have books from three different nations claiming that one of their citizens was the first to fly. As some of the most powerful nations in the world agree to let certain facts be “forgotten,” the trend will only get worse. History is written by the victor, and the victor will never be asked if he told the truth.



“In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”


Even without commentary, the reader is probably picturing Edward Snowden or Chelsea Manning. The revolutions of the future will not be fought with bullets and explosives, but with little bits of data traveling around the world destroying the false narratives with which governments shackle their citizens.


“Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed: everything else is public relations.”

Make no mistake about it; if an article does not anger someone, it is nothing more than a public relations piece. Most of what passes for news today is little more than an official sounding advertisement for a product, service, or belief.


“In real life it is always the anvil that breaks the hammer…”

In every conflict, it is not the side that can inflict the most damage, but the side that can sustain the most damage that ultimately prevails. History is full of situations in which a military “won the battles but lost the war.”


“The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.”

Haditha. Panjwai. Maywand District. Mahmudiyah. These names probably don’t ring a bell, but it is almost a certainty that the reader is aware of the brutality that occurred in Benghazi. The main difference is that in the first four incidents, those committing the acts of brutality were wearing an American flag on their shoulder.


“Threats to freedom of speech, writing and action, though often trivial in isolation, are cumulative in their effect and, unless checked, lead to a general disrespect for the rights of the citizen.”

Everyday there is a new form of censorship or a new method of forcing people into self-censorship, and the people shrug it off because it only relates to a small minority. By the time the people realize their ability to express disapproval has been completely restricted, it may be too late. That brings us to Orwell’s most haunting quote.


“If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—forever.”

 

Supafly

Retired Mod
Bronze Member

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Hey the shit sipper is back for more! Yay.


What is the matter with you? Every thread I recall of you partaking, you try to hijack them, going overboard with insults and cyber-bully attics I thought a grown-up man should at some point leave behind. Of course, it adds colour to the forum, and that will be the reason staff keeps you around. Which is more than can be said about you in clubs you hang out in real life, if you try these ways, too.

It tells a lot that you, of all avatars, picked Gunnery Sergeant Hartman. Are or were you in the military? Safe bet, I would say. I have met other former military guys, who never made it to were they wanted to be, and who copied these movie characters, playing the role they could never fill.

Mind you, you are intelligent, and you are well educated. That is the sad part of this. Possibly you have an alcohol abuse problem? That would explain a lot, too.

Hope you solve your problems instead trying to put down others, too.

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Ace Boobtoucher

Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol

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I almost never drink. I don't suffer PTSD (Well maybe my drill instructors scarred me a little). I just loathe people who put up ridiculous posts on any forum and have neither the intelligence nor the inclination to support their bullshit with their own words. This ass clown repudiates everything without using substantive, objective thought and often resorts to name calling or dismisses valid points because he is the only one who knows what a valid, credible source may be. So, let him be butthurt and cry about being bullied. He started it.



http://mentalfloss.com/article/25753/how-did-states-usa-get-their-names

California existed in European literature way before Europeans settled the Western U.S. It wasn't a state filled with vineyards and movie stars, but an island in the West Indies filled with gold and women. The fictional paradise, first mentioned in the early 1500s by Spanish author Garci Ordóñez de Montalvo in his novel Las Sergas de Esplandián, is ruled by Queen Califia and “inhabited by black women, without a single man among them, [living in] the manner of Amazons.” The island is said to be “one of the wildest in the world on account of the bold and craggy rocks... everywhere abounds with gold and precious stones” and is home to griffins and other mythical beasts.

While there is some consensus that the area was named for the fictional island, scholars have also suggested that the name comes from the Catalan words calor (“hot”) and forn (“oven”) or from a Native America phrase, kali forno (“high hill”).

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And I'm STILL waiting for a rebuttal.
 

Supafly

Retired Mod
Bronze Member
Coincidences, they happen. I just watch "The Bulletproof Monk". Have you seen it? I think you could learn a lot from that monk, and to not pick up any fight, because people actually do not fight others, they fight themselves.

As you described, these posters make themselves look like fools all by themselves. I think you do not need to point that out any further than they do. And if you do want to discuss with them in order to change their opinions - you will admit you are doing that wrong. I for one have a hard time changing my view on a topic if the other guy virtually shouts at me and calls me names. Even if he might be right, just insulting.

There are always more than one way to say what you want to say.
 
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