Poll for americans only

[vodkazvictim]

:wtf: Is VV REALLY doing this?
A long time ago the Argentines made attempts to take Las Malvinas (the Falkland islands) from the British.
The British and Argentines went to war (the U.S.A. stayed out of it) and the Brits were victorious.

In recent times there has been increasing tension between the Brits and Argentines over these islands.
So Americans, I'm interested to know, will you vote to stay out of the war? Will you support the Brits who have supported you? Or will you support the Argentines and thereby improve relations with one of your Southern neighbours? Vote. Feel free to tell us why you voted the way you did.
Remember: vote naked.

Blueballs, can you post one of your MOTW/POTW voting images, please?

 

[BigSwede]

Mind your own business.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

This dude actually thinks he's a comic. What he doesn't know is is that we're not laughing with him, we're laughing AT him.

I'm on his "ignore," so I don't think it's going to kill him when I say, crawl back under your rock, you silly son of a bitch. :dropdead:

I violate my rule of not handing out negative rep to anyone under any circumstances, even when they give it to me. For this psycho I violate that rule.

 

[antanotherthing]

Enforce the Monroe Doctrine and go to war with the UK.

 

[Rattrap]

As an American Brit, I think the US needs to stay out. And if Argentina has a legitimate claim, I think the UK needs to let go.

National imperialism is over. The UK needs to get over itself and realize the new corporate imperialism is the new trend and it's pretty far behind.

 

[Rey C.]

I think we should just send Mark Sanford to Argentina and get him to charm (the skirt off of) Presidentress Fernandez de Kirchner, and all will be well. You know, just "take her for a walk" on the Appalachian Trail and work things out. Jenny won't mind.

Either that, or President Romney and his neocon masters might just have to nuke her socialist, commie, pinko (quite attractive) ass.

 

[Smallville22]

Stay out of the war.

 

[Mayhem]

To the U.S., "assisting an ally" means fighting the war for them. The Brits can handle this on their own.

Besides according to VV, America doesn't have any worthwhile equipment to fight a war with, so we'd just be getting in the way of the Limeys and their L-85 rifles. :1orglaugh

 

[GibbsGrad2002]

Stay out of the war.

 

[Trident1]

Neither the Brits or Argies have the equipment to do anything about the Falklands......................2012 ain't 1982.

 

[Johan]

Join the war, blast them all, take the Falklands for yourself and make them the 51st state.

 

[knowone]

The US would probably directly stay out of it, but give support to the GB like they did in '81. Also the Brits don't need our help to kick their ass again.

 

[vodkazvictim]

As an American Brit, I think the US needs to stay out. And if Argentina has a legitimate claim, I think the UK needs to let go.

National imperialism is over. The UK needs to get over itself and realize the new corporate imperialism is the new trend and it's pretty far behind.

A) Last time the Argies desired (why?) to remain under British control. This may still be the case.
B) The Brits have been practicing corporate imperialism for a long time.

To the U.S., "assisting an ally" means fighting the war for them. The Brits can handle this on their own.

Besides according to VV, America doesn't have any worthwhile equipment to fight a war with, so we'd just be getting in the way of the Limeys and their L-85 rifles. :1orglaugh

A) The Brits can't handle this on their own: We had to rejuvenate a Vulcan back in the '80s and there's even less chance of making a raid work now.
As for the Navy (the Army can't reach the area alone), budget cuts in conjunction with running military aquisition for the benefit of business mean that, to paraphrase an officer of the Royal Navy "The Dutch have a better navy than us!"
B) We've been over this; america does have some worthwhile equipment, but certain things are over-hyped, inneficient and under-capable.
C) The Current model is the L85A2. The original was poorly rated and the designation may also refer to an SSW. If memory serves.

Neither the Brits or Argies have the equipment to do anything about the Falklands......................2012 ain't 1982.

Haven't been tracking Argie forces, but we Brits are fucked, so I'd say this is likely a fair assessment.

Join the war, blast them all, take the Falklands for yourself and make them the 51st state.

I thought you were French and that your opinion was therefore academic?
Now why don't you explain what makes the Falklands a good aquisition?

The US would probably directly stay out of it, but give support to the GB like they did in '81. Also the Brits don't need our help to kick their ass again.

Support? What support? Like selling them more strike jets to target British shipping with?

 

[Trident1]

Haven't been tracking Argie forces, but we Brits are fucked, so I'd say this is likely a fair assessment.

The Brits naval force is anemic having undergone cost cutting down to 18 ships total. The Argies have barely anything. The good ol' days of the Cold War arsenals are long gone. I'm certain both wished they had their 1982 assets right now.

 

[vodkazvictim]

The Brits naval force is anemic having undergone cost cutting down to 18 ships total. The Argies have barely anything. The good ol' days of the Cold War arsenals are long gone. I'm certain both wished they had their 1982 assets right now.

While I'm sure both wish they had their former assets (I know I've long been displeased by the lack of strategic bomber in the British arsenal) I'm hardly nostalgic for the cold war.
Albeit I can barely remember it.

 

[Mayhem]

A) The Brits can't handle this on their own: We had to rejuvenate a Vulcan back in the '80s and there's even less chance of making a raid work now.
As for the Navy (the Army can't reach the area alone), budget cuts in conjunction with running military aquisition for the benefit of business mean that, to paraphrase an officer of the Royal Navy "The Dutch have a better navy than us!"
B) We've been over this; america does have some worthwhile equipment, but certain things are over-hyped, inneficient and under-capable.
C) The Current model is the L85A2. The original was poorly rated and the designation may also refer to an SSW. If memory serves.

Since you replied with a cogent, coherent reply; I will do the same. Of course we have certain equipment that isn't as good as it should be. It's the US military, of course there is going to be waste. The problem is that much of the things you have previously claimed were, "over-hyped, inneficient and under-capable", is fine equipment, you are the only voice anywhere that claims it isn't, and you have no actual experience to back up any of the accusations you have made. Those are the facts.

You have also refused to factor in the fact that many weapons systems, etc, were built in a different time for different purposes. Did you know that for all the combat missions the B-52 has ever flown, it has never flown the mission that it was designed and built for? In other words, we did what we had to at the time and then modified and adapted where/when we had too. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

Apparently the L85 is working properly now. It only took H&K to make it work. And in either case, it took too damn long for the Brits to take the problem seriously. You don't fuck around with a main battle rifle. That's me, in a nice way, saying you fix your problems, we'll fix ours.

And if you can't take the Falkland Fucking Islands, you got way more problems than we do.

 

[Rattrap]

A) Last time the Argies desired (why?) to remain under British control. This may still be the case.

Why would there be fighting then? Or is this an academic 'what if'? I must confess I didn't pay any attention to past conflicts while I was living in the UK.

B) The Brits have been practicing corporate imperialism for a long time.

Sure, but a quick look down most British high streets will show you mostly foreign-owned (mostly American) businesses. I even found an ASDA that didn't even pretend it wasn't Wal-Mart (that is to say, the Wal-Mart logo was prominent and larger than the ASDA sign, as opposed to the typical 'part of the Wal-Mart family' fine print I saw on most ASDA signs).

Though perhaps its finance the UK's corporate imperialism shines; I must confess again I know very little there, other than that it seems to be an unfortunately large portion of the country's GDP.

 

[Trident1]

(I know I've long been displeased by the lack of strategic bomber in the British arsenal)

Well you're "strategic bombers" became obsolete when you introduced SLBMs and cruise missiles into the inventory.

Albeit I can barely remember it.

It shows.

 

[swallowmewhole]

i understand theres a legitimate debate going on here but this is why i think we (America) should stay out of it..

http://www.freeones.com/html/index_prof_p_10.shtml

:2 cents:

 

[Mayhem]

i understand theres a legitimate debate going on here but this is why i think we (america) should stay out of it..

http://www.freeones.com/html/index_prof_p_10.shtml

:2 cents:

OK, so you talked me out of conquering the Falklands. But now you have me thinkin' about invading Argentina. :rubbel: