Ok Mega
Stop jumping my ass!!!!!!!!
Stop jumping my ass!!!!!!!!
Opinion polls: Obama's health care reform law not a winner so far
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<chuckle> More membrane-like skin I see. No problem..I'll dismount B/C's back.
But if you come with the weak shit....:violent:
Jagger69
Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
"Obama is not a brown-skinned anti-war socialist who gives away free healthcare. You're thinking of Jesus." - John Fugelsang
Nobody in Massachusetts wants to revoke their version of ObamaCare--which is known as RomneyCare in that state. Yes, they voted in a Republican to replace Teddy, but is Scott Brown closer to an Olympia Snowe Republican or a Jim DeMint Republican?
We shouldn't really even call this ObamaCare because he had nothing to do with the creation of it. We should call it DemocratCare2010...and we'll see if it really does lower costs. :dunno: The only tangible positive I can see is getting rid of the pre-existing condition termination clause which was illegal in the first place..:hatsoff:
We shouldn't really even call this ObamaCare because he had nothing to do with the creation of it. We should call it DemocratCare2010...and we'll see if it really does lower costs. :dunno: The only tangible positive I can see is getting rid of the pre-existing condition termination clause which was illegal in the first place..:hatsoff:
I dont put to much into these polls because there is alot of misinformation out there about the bill, a majority of people don't even know what is in the bill and yet they say they are against it.
Well a lot of people don't even know what is in the bill and say they are for it. Frankly, our POLITICIANS don't know what is in the bill. The Dems voted for it because Obama and Pelosi told them to. The the Reps voted against it because Obama and Pelosi told them to vote for it. Most of them have no clue what they are voting on. It is the biggest thing I hate about American Politics people just stand on the party lines.
Just so you know, I am against Government getting involved in anything being one of those "crazy" Libertarian types.
Nonsense. The damn thing didn't write itself.
Somebody wrote the thing.Your picking up on a talking point.:nono:
Nonsense. The damn thing didn't write itself.
Your picking up on a talking point.:nono:
Actually how these bills get done is they go through committee after committee. And each step it gets changed just a little bit. Someone add an earmark, someone edits a line. It is entirely possible that no one has read the whole thing.
It is unlikely though. But I guarantee that MOST of the people who voted for it did not read the whole thing. I guarantee my congressmen didn't.
What else is there to say about the bill. I don't like the fact it was done with reconciliation, something that was not meant to pass bills. How about how I am no convinced even after your "answer" we can pay for this? How about I don't think the Government has the right to tell me what to do or buy? Or how about all the earmarks in the bill? All the pork? Should we talk about those?
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Idiot ! :thefinger
Why was she so nervous and cotton mouthed ?
uh uh uh, did I catch some of the guilty pantomime s-w-a-l-l-o-w there nancy,
you jet fuel burnin megalomaniac ?
we have to pass the bill so that you can see what's in it - GULP - Away from the fog of controversy huh ? You lying cunt ! We now that you con artist pieces of (don't make me say it) are going to get kickbacks from the big pharmas in addition to all of the internal fraudulent activity built into the system
Why was she so nervous and cotton mouthed ?
uh uh uh, did I catch some of the guilty pantomime s-w-a-l-l-o-w there nancy,
you jet fuel burnin megalomaniac ?
we have to pass the bill so that you can see what's in it - GULP - Away from the fog of controversy huh ? You lying cunt ! We now that you con artist pieces of (don't make me say it) are going to get kickbacks from the big pharmas in addition to all of the internal fraudulent activity built into the system
Yes!!!! Be my guest to talk about what's in the bill after you claimed no one knew what was in it.
I'm not a congressman..I don't know the precise process for how this or some of the other complex bill come to "pass"...but I have common sense enough to know it didn't write itself.
The great thing about the "internets" nowadays is with any of these bills we can read them for ourselves...However, the question becomes if you're not a lawyer...how much of the legal jargon will you understand or even stomach before you fall asleep.:o
The hell you say!!!
That's about as surprising as Ricky Martin coming out of the closet.
Oh snappity-snap (with a little crackle and pop thrown in).
That's about as surprising as Ricky Martin coming out of the closet.
Oh snappity-snap (with a little crackle and pop thrown in).
a pretty decent 10 part article breaking down the health care bill...mind you with over a thousand pages of bill i imagine this article is perhaps more of an abstract than a summary http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politi...re-reform-bill-101-what-the-bill-means-to-you
By trying to copy Europe with its fucking retarded and assisted social security and healthcare, you shot yourself in the foot. Assisting unwilling to work parasites by taxing the average, hard working and law abiding citizens, you reduce the purchasing power of the main working force and therefore you screw up the economy. In France like in Sweden, the social security and the healthcare system has indebted these countries for years. Europeanizing and ghettoizing America is absolutely not American and people who acknowledge this should really question themselves about their citizenship and their so called patriotism. You want to have something, bust your ass off and work to deserve it. That is the american way of doing.
The biggest problems with the health bill is the total lack of any government option for health insurance and the total lack of any cost controls. There is nothing in it to keep the cost from going up dramatically in the future. Of course that's hard to get when half the lawmakers purposely are obstructionist, care more about blind ideology than their own people's well being, and the fact that much of the country is still afraid of the "socialist bogyman", believes in a system that obviously doesn't work, and doesn't want the government to regulate any industry no matter how sensible it is. (And no the free market for health care and medicine isn’t going to keep the cost from going up, that’s laughable and how health care got in the mess we’re in in the first place. Any tort reform will also only be a drop in the bucket for cost saving at best.)
Whether people like it or not to be fair to everybody, to give everybody something most of the civilized Western World considerers a human right (except for some people here for some reason, go figure), and to do it in a method that is the most affordable the government just has to take over pretty much every aspect of healthcare and medicine.
What also gets lost in a lot of these polls is why people don't like the bill. A lot of people are like me in the fact they don't like it, not because they don't like universal healthcare, but because it doesn't go far enough. A lot of people like to skew everybody that doesn't like the bill into anti health care for everybody people.
Whether people like it or not to be fair to everybody, to give everybody something most of the civilized Western World considerers a human right (except for some people here for some reason, go figure), and to do it in a method that is the most affordable the government just has to take over pretty much every aspect of healthcare and medicine.
What also gets lost in a lot of these polls is why people don't like the bill. A lot of people are like me in the fact they don't like it, not because they don't like universal healthcare, but because it doesn't go far enough. A lot of people like to skew everybody that doesn't like the bill into anti health care for everybody people.
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