One Porn Star's Political Opinions...

[Jack Davenport]

This could be straight out of The Communist Manifesto

Marx and Engels would be proud.

 

[Mariahxxx]

again, he SAID it but what has he DONE as president.

so is this more offensive than Romney dismissing the 47% of the Americans who live in poverty? or his assertion that poor people all have their hands out? I know plenty of people who are barely making it and dont get a penny from the government.

how about this little sound bite by Bush 2

 

[Jack Davenport]

What someone believes and what they do are often very different things. I think that religious people's views are fucking insane and the idea that people who believe in myths could be president is frightening, but I have to have faith that they won't allow what they believe for themselves to be forced upon everyone else. I own guns but I am in bigtime favor of rewritten gun laws. they are outdated to say the least. no one needs a 30 round magazine in their gun. no one needs to own an assault rifle. but the law written in the time of muskets is still in tact right? And how could anyone oppose background checks for EVERYONE buying a gun? how can you possibly make that argument? and to say that being required to have your gun registered is unconstitutional yet have no issue with your car being registered? lol that's fucking RETARDED.

My mother totally believes in wealth distribution but I don't and I've associated with her my entire life. So am I a socialist? NO. Please tell me what he has DONE to redistribute wealth. Not what he's said, but what he has DONE. NOTHING! he wants to raise taxes a whopping 3% on the wealthiest people which is where it was under Clinton. I would be ok with raising it all the way to 45% and cutting out all write offs for people who are billionaires. Many of them pay so little in taxes its bullshit. So you think it's fair that Mitt Romney pays 12% of his income in taxes but the guy who cuts his lawn pays 30%? how do you justify that?


Obama has signed more pro gun legislation in 5 years than Bush did in 8.

You have NOT made a single example of what he has DONE to steer this country towards socialism. And yes, the policies of the white house have a lot to do with the market.

I hope you are not too heavily vested in the market if you believe that. The market is doing well because companies are the buyers and individuals are the sellers. it has zero to do with presidential policy. It didn't under Bush and it doesn't under Obama. I don't know how much clearer I can be,

Obamacare=Socialism

"Everybody pays their fair share.. everybody gets a fair shot= socialism

"fundamentally transform America" is socialist speak.


Life is not fair and it never will be. And it damned sure isn't government's job to even the playing field.

And BTW those that served in the military earned their right to health care. Joe sit on his ass all day and do nothing..when he is able bodied and chooses not to work does not. My father died after being exposed to contaminates at Camp Lejeune and died of stomach cancer only 6 months after his diagnosis. He spent a lot of time at the rifle range as a gunny where radioactive materials were dumped and the water was poisonous. He earned every damned bit of health care he received.

 

[Jack Davenport]

You're barking up the wrong tree. Like you I voted for Bush and he let me down. I will never vote for another one. I live part time in Florida and liked Jeb Bush but I will never support him if he runs. THAT'S what his brother did for his chances with a lot of us.

 

[Mariahxxx]

I agree that vets should get health care. but what about the fact that wages are behind inflation and people aren't able to live while working full time, many 2 full time jobs?

I am 100% in favor of socialized medical care. We have polie, fire, schools, roads, social security, medicare, and post office - all socialist programs.

call it socialist speak all you want, america needs transforming and if you deny that you are crazy and naive which I don't think you are...yet

I agree that people should pay their fair share. No one making millions should be paying less than those making thousands. you don't agree with that??????????

and the right wants to get rid of the EPA which polices companies from dumping toxic waste in water. and let's face it, if no one was watching EVERY chemical company in the US would be dumping in rivers, landfills and the ocean.

 

[Jack Davenport]

I agree that vets should get health care. but what about the fact that wages are behind inflation and people aren't able to live while working full time, many 2 full time jobs?

I am 100% in favor of socialized medical care. We have polie, fire, schools, roads, social security, medicare, and post office - all socialist programs.

call it socialist speak all you want, america needs transforming and if you deny that you are crazy and naive which I don't think you are...yet

I agree that people should pay their fair share. No one making millions should be paying less than those making thousands. you don't agree with that??????????

and the right wants to get rid of the EPA which polices companies from dumping toxic waste in water. and let's face it, if no one was watching EVERY chemical company in the US would be dumping in rivers, landfills and the ocean.

A client has his first appearance this morning so I gotta go. I will respond when I get to the office.

I'm not a morning person. Lucky for my client.

 

[Mariahxxx]

how about these charts. you tell me how people are supposed to pay for health care when the average wage has been stagnated for decades while cost of living continues to increase constantly?

How about the OTHER NRA the national restaurant owners association headed for years by Herman Caine has lobbied successfully to keep tip earner's hourly wage at $2.13 hourly. it has been the same since 1982. now please, tell me how a waitress at Denny's who might work an 8 hour shift and leave with $30 in tips can afford to live?? let alone pay for outrageous health care costs. My health care being 33 with breast implants is more than my car payment and I drive a $40,000 car. please, justify that for me.

 

[xfire]

They throw the socialist/marxist label at Obama the same way they used to use the word liberal. Liberal lost it's zing so they had to move on to something they think has more bite. I could easily substitute any number of words for socialist when describing right-wingers and would be using the same tactics. Lee Atwater political smearing at it's finest.

 

[Mariahxxx]

Im still waiting for an example other than giving medicine to poor people for something Obama has DONE.

I think it's very funny how the right wants to scream foul about social programs that help people who cant afford medicine, but then call themselves christians or say it's unconstitutional yet declaring an official religion for the US is? or requiring vaginal probes for women who are pregnant? or allowing states to require anyone running for public office to be Christians even though the US constitution clearly states otherwise? the republicans have destroyed the constitution yet they use it in their rhetoric constantly.

I am finding it funny how no one has commented on that bush clip I posted in my first post in this thread. it's like everything else, ignore it and pretend it didnt happen. unreal

 

[xfire]

Bush signed Medicare Part D, a huge "socialist" prescription drug benefit, but you don't hear people screaming "socialist/marxist" at Bush.

 

[Mariahxxx]

no you sure dont

its a very simple equation: when it benefits them ie social security, medicare, etc its not socialism but if it benefits someone else, it is.

 

[Jagger69]

Everyone keeps saying that Obama is a socialist, yet Wall Street is at an all-time high, corporate profits are at an all-time high. If he's a socialist, then he's horrible at it. Where does this belief come from? Because he wants to give Americans health care? Gee, we're the ONLY developed country in the WORLD without it and the richest nation so why wouldn't we have it? We cater to the wealthiest people so why not offer the people at the bottom of the scale some relief? Again, we were a much more socialist country in the 1950s than we are today. No one bitches about their social security or their medicare, or their unemployment or health care for veterans and those are as socialist as it gets. So please, share with me where the socialist moniker comes from?

You said you are a republican? You sure don't sound like one to me. :1orglaugh

"Socialism" is one of those scare-words that those on the extreme right employ to make it sound synonymous with "Totalitarianism". Low-information voters are easy to influence with these types of tactics.

Socialism abounds in our society out of necessity. Public works efforts (roads, bridges, parks), police departments, fire departments....hell, the U.S. military....all are socialist. The very idea of our government itself is socialist. Most people believe that capitalism is the opposite of socialism. I disagree. It's anarchy.

The American health care system as it is presently administered is deplorable. 48 million Americans are presently without any type of health care. The money we have wasted on ill-advised and imperialistic military expeditions to far-away nations like Iraq and Afghanistan could easily provide a solid base for a universal health care system. Interesting how eager we seem to be willing to part with a buck to go kill someone but dig in our heels when it comes to spending that same dollar on health care. It seems unfathomable to me that, here in the midst of all the abundance that we enjoy here in the USA, there are millions of people who are refused help when they get sick.

 

[Mariahxxx]

I said I am a REGISTERED Republican but my thinking has evolved. experiences with plight and death have helped to steer my thinking. As well as Ive earned more money and seen the difference with being stable financially I am reminded more of the days when I was not and I have empathy for those who struggle. As well I have educated myself on several sides of issues which has cleared my thinking. Same goes for religion. once you educate yourself on other beliefs (if you are capable of having an open mind!) you suddenly start to question and your beliefs change. I would imagine the same could be said for science and art etc

plus having Bush 2 as president for 2 terms really exposed me to the type of people I had grouped myself with! lol it's funny but it's very true!

I will say that I am pro-capitalism as it is a very good system when it's done properly. However, there are always going to be bottom feeders and those who swim in an altogether different body of water who will fuck it up. and when business is permitted to write laws in their favor, we all lose. so its not perfect, but it is the best alternative.

 

[Mariahxxx]

I am also in BIGTIME Favor of the death penalty. if prison was harsher then I would be ok with getting rid of it. but you cannot tell me that someone who rapes a child or murders someone should get internet access, use of a cell phone, cable tv and health care including dental???

until they make punishment in prison harsher, Im all for letting some piece of shit watch the clock tick on his life.

 

[Jack Davenport]

Let's leave the Marxist label aside for a moment since it gets xfire's panties in a wad.

And we will just stick to the label of garden variety socialist for the time being.


This is the Declaration of Principles of the Party of European Socialists. It is a summary of the European socialist agenda. Compare them to Obama's legislative agenda.:

Party Of European Socialists: The welfare state and state-provided universal access to education and health care are society’s great achievements.

Obama: Wants universal health care and the expansion of the government state.

Party Of European Socialists:A strong state must preserve the public good, guarantee the common interest, promote justice and solidarity and allow people to lead lives rich beyond material wealth, so that each individual’s fulfillment is also part of a collective endeavor.

Obama: Advocates the nanny state and social, economic and political justice to the citizen. He even said that the Constitution is a "charter of negative liberties" . He complains that the Constitution dictates what it can't do for you and says nothing about what it can do for you on your behalf. He may as said he wanted to fundamentally transform the Constitution while he was at it.

Party Of European Socialists:Ensuring long lasting prosperity, stability and above all, peace requires effective coordination in the international realm based on democracy, mutual respect, and human rights.

Obama: Places reliance on international institutions, international consensus, and mutual respect in the conduct of foreign policy. The United States must coordinate its foreign policy with international organizations and treat even rogue nations with respect in the hope that they will voluntarily improve their behavior. Rogue nations! How's that working out for ya?

Of course (and I knew it would happen BTW) that the same old bullshit that conservatives accept Social Security and a progressive income tax and that Obama is misunderstood and taken out of context is brought up here. The fact is that conservatives have been fighting against the increase in government and entitlements (I said conservatives not republicans ok?)

The genie is out of the bottle and there is no way to put it back . Conservatives knew this would happen and is why we fight tooth and nail for it not to be increased even more. Socialists understand that once the people get used to government caring for their every need it becomes ingrained into their lifestyle and psyche as is with Medicare and Social Security. Jagger is wrong that police and fire departments are part of a socialist society. For the most part, these are services offered by local municipalities not the FEDERAL government. And is why socialists are opposed to state's rights. I sit in utter amazement of otherwise intelligent people that constantly buy in to the socialist agenda and drivel.

One point I will agree with Jagger on. No matter how she has voted in the past, Ms. Milano is not a Republican nor a Libertarian for that matter. Her postings here on this thread are chock full of conspiracy theory and her sentiments are in line with everything proposed by the liberal/socialist agenda.

 

[Fatfishblu]

Sheriff of Palm Beach County gets Gov't grant to set up a hotline for neighbors to rat out other neighbors if they hate the Gov't.

http://www.mypalmbeachpost.com/news...s-1-million-for-violence-prevention-un/nXbs4/

Also, high school boy gets 20 years in jail for threatening Obama, yet not one person faced jail who threatened to kill Mitt Romney.

http://www.infowars.com/high-school-student-faces-20-years-for-obama-facebook-threat/

 

[xfire]

Let's leave the Marxist label aside for a moment since it gets xfire's panties in a wad.

And we will just stick to the label of garden variety socialist for the time being.


This is the Declaration of Principles of the Party of European Socialists. It is a summary of the European socialist agenda. Compare them to Obama's legislative agenda.:

Party Of European Socialists: The welfare state and state-provided universal access to education and health care are society’s great achievements.

Obama: Wants universal health care and the expansion of the government state.

Party Of European Socialists:A strong state must preserve the public good, guarantee the common interest, promote justice and solidarity and allow people to lead lives rich beyond material wealth, so that each individual’s fulfillment is also part of a collective endeavor.

Obama: Advocates the nanny state and social, economic and political justice to the citizen. He even said that the Constitution is a "charter of negative liberties" . He complains that the Constitution dictates what it can't do for you and says nothing about what it can do for you on your behalf. He may as said he wanted to fundamentally transform the Constitution while he was at it.

Party Of European Socialists:Ensuring long lasting prosperity, stability and above all, peace requires effective coordination in the international realm based on democracy, mutual respect, and human rights.

Obama: Places reliance on international institutions, international consensus, and mutual respect in the conduct of foreign policy. The United States must coordinate its foreign policy with international organizations and treat even rogue nations with respect in the hope that they will voluntarily improve their behavior. Rogue nations! How's that working out for ya?

Of course (and I knew it would happen BTW) that the same old bullshit that conservatives accept Social Security and a progressive income tax and that Obama is misunderstood and taken out of context is brought up here. The fact is that conservatives have been fighting against the increase in government and entitlements (I said conservatives not republicans ok?)

The genie is out of the bottle and there is no way to put it back . Conservatives knew this would happen and is why we fight tooth and nail for it not to be increased even more. Socialists understand that once the people get used to government caring for their every need it becomes ingrained into their lifestyle and psyche as is with Medicare and Social Security. Jagger is wrong that police and fire departments are part of a socialist society. For the most part, these are services offered by local municipalities not the FEDERAL government. And is why socialists are opposed to state's rights. I sit in utter amazement of otherwise intelligent people that constantly buy in to the socialist agenda and drivel.

One point I will agree with Jagger on. No matter how she has voted in the past, Ms. Milano is not a Republican nor a Libertarian for that matter. Her postings here on this thread are chock full of conspiracy theory and her sentiments are in line with everything proposed by the liberal/socialist agenda.

Would you mind providing a link to Obama's Official "legislative agenda" to back up your assertions?

 

[Jack Davenport]

What? So you vote for people and then don't listen to what they say or pay attention to what they do? These are all policies that Obama has stated that he supports and wants to see implemented. Right in line with European socialists. They are all on public record, be it campaign promises or speeches or outright policy. I guess if I have the time I can furnish it for you. Do you have your mom to cut your steak up for you too?

 

[xfire]

What? So you vote for people and then don't listen to what they say or pay attention to what they do? These are all policies that Obama has stated that he supports and wants to see implemented. Right in line with European socialists. They are all on public record, be it campaign promises or speeches or outright policy. I guess if I have the time I can furnish it for you. Do you have your mom to cut your steak up for you too?

The point is that you're trying to speak for Obama in setting his legislative agenda. That's horseshit, it's your own fabrication, and you can't provide a link that backs up the bullshit assertions you're making. Once again I find myself having to tell you that when you make an accusation it's on you to prove it. You seem to be in the habit of making shit up, pretending it's fact, then getting butthurt when you're called on it. I suppose I would be foolish to expect better form.

 

[Philbert]

I'm still moving away from Ms Mariahxxx quietly, before she explodes.
You seem to grab a theory, find what works for you in someone's talking points, and put it out there as "Facts".

Since Mitt Romney, a rigid do gooder and honest Religious Mormon, has paid all his taxes forever, and only paid 12% on his Cap Gains (returns on already taxed money invested), not his income tax, pointing out how someone without any investments pays 30% is right next to dishonest.
The Obamas paid a tax percentage of 18.something %, which was missing from your tirade about Mitt's taxes. Not Cap Gains tax, but income tax.